<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Surviving Normal stream]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><i><i><b><b>//Editor's note: Topic selected and edited for <a href="http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/surviving-normal-stream">http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/surviving-normal-stream</a>.</b></b></i></i><br /><br /><br /><i><i>(Please bear with me. This is a very l-o-n-g post as there are lots to share. Still, I hope you find my sharing a worthwhile read. Cheers)</i></i><br /><br />Too often on KSP forum, we read about students who do exceedingly well in school and get excellent results for all their exams, be it GEP streaming or PSLE. Most likely, we read with envy and wish our kids have the study smarts too! <br /><br />So, what happens if your child (or if you are a student reading this) is not part of the nation’s top 10% and bound for the premium brand schools? Instead, your child is not going to the Express stream but going to Normal (Academic) or Normal (Technical) instead. <br /><br />We hear (and read) horror stories of the quality of students and the environment in N(A) and N(T) classes and some neighbourhood schools that are less than desirable and may not be conducive for studying. We worry about our children and who they will mix around with and the bad habits that they may pick up. And, as any parent who loves our kids, it is natural to worry as we want our kids to do well in life.<br /><br />As an educator teaching students in the tertiary institutions, I am inspired and motivated to start this thread as I want to share with parents of kids who are in or going to Normal stream. I have taught many students and have come across many Normal stream students who are doing very well in poly or in the university.<br /><br />In interacting with my students, I know that it has been a long and arduous journey for these Normal stream students. Their self-esteem and confidence level takes a beating. They always wondered if they were good enough. And yet, they have risen above their situations to overcome their hurdles and challenges. And for that, we celebrate in their successes.<br /><br />Here is my sharing of my Normal stream students who have done well in life<br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:"><i><i>(I have deliberately left out the students’ names and the names of the tertiary institutions to maintain my students’ confidentiality and privacy)</i></i></span><br /><br /><b><b>Case 1: Student A, girl, 1st year student at poly</b></b><br />A scored only 100 points for her PSLE exam. She went to N(T) and then ITE. It was at ITE that she realised her potential. The teachers at ITE believed in her and gave her opportunities to excel. She recognized that she is not “book smart” but is a sporty and hands-on person. She decided to work hard on her strengths and was amongst the top 1% in ITE. She did well enough to earn a place in the poly. In her own words, “Although I am struggling in poly now – things are so much more difficult – I will not give up and will continue to study hard as I want a better future for myself and to make my parents proud of me.”<br /><br /><b><b>Case 2: Student B, boy, 2nd year IT student in poly</b></b><br />B’s PSLE T-score was 158 points and went to N(T) and then ITE. He acknowledged that it was a very tough environment in N(T) and ITE as he was constantly surrounded by friends who were not interested in studying. The environment was definitely not conducive for studying. Still, C was surrounded by a loving and supportive family. Even though his parents were disappointed that he did not do well in his PSLE, they did not give up on him and encouraged him to do his best.  On top of his poly studies, C works part-time to support himself as his family is in the low income range. He may not be amongst the top students in poly, but he is motivated to do well as he wants to go to the university. <br /><b><b><br />Case 3: Student C, boy, 3rd year Business student in poly</b></b><br />C’s PSLE score was 175 and was a N(A) student. He is in poly now and is on the Director’s List (top 1% in school) and maintains a 3.6 GPA, getting As and distinctions in all his first and second year subjects. C will no doubt earn a place in a university of his choice.<br />(GPA stands for Grade Point Average. It is a score that reflects how well a student performs in the poly. The maximum grade a student can attain is a GPA 4.0)<br /><br /><b><b>Case 4: Student D, girl, final year Accountancy student in a local uni </b></b><br />D came from a broken family, her father was a gambler and wife-beater and her mother had to work as a seamstress to support her and her brother. When A was in primary school, she did not do well in PSLE exam and went to N(T). Her mother told her that she needed to study hard so that the relatives would not “look down” on them. When A was in Sec 1, she did well enough to be “upgraded” to N(A).  She continued to do well in her “N” levels to proceed to “O” levels. A went to poly, studied very hard and earned a place studying Accountancy at one of our local uni. A should be graduating next year.<br /><br />Although I have only given 4 examples, I hope my sharing will reflect that we should not give up hope and that all is not lost. I am humbled by my students’ experiences and what they shared has taught me the following:<br /><br /><b><b>1. Believe in your child</b></b><br />Don’t give up on your child. Ever. Know that he or she will succeed in life with your love, support and encouragement. <br /><br /><b><b>2. Have a positive attitude and mindset</b></b><br />We must be positive for our kids (even though we are shaking with worry and frustrations inside). When our kids see us positive and believing in them, they will believe in themselves too.<br /><br /><b><b>3. Build on confidence and self-esteem</b></b><br />When our kids start to feel good about themselves, their self-confidence and self-esteem will increase too. And when they know they can do it, they will!<br /><br /><b><b>4. Encourage your child to be focused and motivated</b></b><br />Talk to your children and keep them motivated. Students who survive and succeed Normal stream and ITE to enter poly were very focused and single-minded in wanting to succeed. Although there were many distractions, these Normal stream students were motivated to want a better future for themselves and their families. They are aware that education is the road to a better quality of life.<br /><br /><b><b>5. Be like the lotus</b></b><br />Someone commented that we need to “be like a lotus”. A lotus is a beautiful flower that is able to survive in muddy and murky waters. Its beauty remains untouched by the ugly environment that it is surrounded in.<br /><br /><b><b>6. Find your child’s strengths and interests</b></b><br />Perhaps your child may not be academically inclined. But that does not mean that your child is not talented. Nurture your child’s strengths and interests. This will give him a purpose in life. It may also increase his confidence and self-esteem as he is doing something he enjoys, and excelling in it. <br /><br /><b><b>7.  Celebrate the little victories</b></b><br />Take small steps. Rome wasn’t built in a day. There is a time and place for everything. Know that one day, your child’s time for success will come. So, in the meantime, celebrate his little victories and you will celebrate his life’s journey.<br /><br />To end this thread, I would like to share a quote that I came across, and it is something that I constantly remind myself when I worry about my children’s well being.<br /><br /><span style="\&quot;color:"><b><b><i><i> “Too often, we worry about what our children will become tomorrow. Yet, we forget that they are someone special today.” </i></i></b></b></span> :lol:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/7609/surviving-normal-stream</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 19:42:18 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/7609.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:58:14 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:46:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">A very interesting and revealing article that Singaporeans and their kids should read …<br /><br /><br />Adam Khoo: The expats will rule Singapore<br />Posted by admin 28 January, 2010<br /><br />I have a prediction. My prediction is that in a couple of years, the expatriates (from China , India , US etc…) will rule Singapore . They<br />will increasingly take on more leadership roles of CEOs, directors, heads of organizations, award winners etc… If you observe closely, it is<br />already happening now.<br /><br />Last year’s top PSLE (Primary School Leaving Exam) student is a China<br />National. Most of the deans list students and first class honours students in the local universities are foreigners and more and more CEOs, even that of go vernment link corporations are expats. The top players in our National teams are expats. As a Singaporean, I am not complaining. I think that in a meritocratic society like Singapore , it is only fair that the very best get rewarded, no matter their race, religion or nationality. Like Lee Kwan Yew said, I rather have these talented and driven people be on our team contributing to our nation than against us from their home country. The question I have been asking is, ‘why are the expats beating the crap out of Singaporeans? <br /><br />What I noticed is that these expats have a very important quality that many Singaporeans (especially the new Y generation lack). It is a quality that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers (who came from distant lands) had that turned Singapore from a fishing village to the third richest country in the world (according to GDP per capita). Unfortunately, I fear this quality is soon disappearing from the new generation of Singaporeans.<br />This quality is the HUNGER FOR SUCCESS and the FIGHTING SPIRIT!!!<br />Expats who come here today have the same tremendous HUNGER for success that our grandfathers had. They are willing to sacrifice, work hard and pay the price to succeed. They also believe that no one owes them a living and they have to work hard for themselves. They also bring with them the humility and willingness to learn.<br /><br />Take the case of Qui Biqing, the girl from Qifa Primary school who topped the whole of Singapore in last year’s PSLE with a score of 290. When she came to Singapore 3 years ago from China , she could hardly speak a word of English and didn’t even understand what a thermometer was. Although she was 10 years old, MOE recommended she start at Primary 2 because of her lack of English proficiency. After appealing, she managed to start in Primary 3. While most Singaporeans have a head start of learning English at pre-school at the age of 3-4 years old, she only started at age 10… Despite this handicapped, she had the drive to<br />read continuously and practice her speaking and writing skills, eventually scoring an A-star in English!<br /><br />This hunger and drive can also be seen in the workforce. I hate to say this but in a way, I sometimes think expats create more value than locals.<br />Expats are willing to work long hours, go the extra mile, are fiercely loyal to you and don’t complain so much. They also come a lot more qualified and do not ask the moon for the remuneration. Recently, I placed an ad for a marketing executive. Out of 100+ resumes, more than 60% came from expats. While locals fresh grads are asking for $2,500+ per month, I have expats with masters degrees from good universities willing to get less than $2,000! They know that if they can come in and learn and work hard, they will eventually climb up and earn alot more. They are willing to invest in themselves, pay the price for future rewards. Sometimes I wonder how some of the locals are going to compete with this. Of course, this is just a generalization. There ARE definitely some Singaporeans who create lots of value and show fighting spirit.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I have found that more and more young Singaporeans lack this hunger for success. Instead, they like to complain, blame circumstances and wait for others to push them. Some hold on to the attitude that the world owes them a living. I shake my head when I see local kids nowadays complain that they don’t have the latest handphones, branded clothes and games. While I acknowledge that the kids of today are much smarter and well informed than I was at their age (my 4<br />year old daughter can use my Macbook computer and my iphone), I find that they lack the resilience and tenacity they need to survive in the new economy. Some kids nowadays tend to give up easily once they find that things get tough and demand instant gratification. When they have to work first to get rewards later, many tend to lack the patience to follow through.  So, how did this happen? Why is our nation of hardworking, hungry fighters slowly becoming a nation of complaining softies? I think the problem is that life in Singapore has been too good and comfortable. Kids today have never seen hunger, poverty, war and disasters. What makes it worse is that parents nowadays give kids everything they want and over protect them from hardship and failure. <br /><br />Parents often ask me why their kids lack the motivation to study and excel. My answer to them is because they already have everything! Giving someone everything they want is the best way to kill their motivation. What reason is there for them to fight to become the best when they are already given the best from their parents without having to earn it? <br /><br />It reminds me of the cartoon movie MADAGASCAR where Alex the Lion and his animal friends were born and raised in the Central Park Zoo. They were well taken care of and provided with processed food and an artificial jungle. When they escaped to Africa , they found that they could barely survive in the wild with the other animals because they had lots their instincts to fight and hunt for food. They could only dance and sing.<br /><br />I see the same thing in the hundreds of seminars and training programmes I conduct. I see increasing more and more expats attending my Wealth Academy and Patterns of Excellence programme in Singapore . Not surprisingly, they are always the first to grab the microphone to answer and ask questions. While many of the locals come in late and sit at the back. The expats (especially those from India and China ) always sit at the front, take notes ferociously and stay<br />back way after the programme is over to ask questions. I feel ashamed sometimes when I ask for volunteers to ask questions, and the Singaporeans keep quiet, while the foreigners fight for the opportunity.<br /><br />For my "I Am Gifted!’ programme for students, I have the privilege to travel &amp; conduct it in seven countries ( Singapore , Indonesia , Hong Kong , China , Malaysia etc…) and see students from all over. Is there a big difference in their attitude and behaviour? You bet! Again, I feel really sad that in Singapore , most students who come are usually forced by their parents to come and improve themselves, Some parents even bribe<br />them with computer games and new handphones to attend. During the course, some adopt the ‘I know everything’ attitude and lack the interest<br />to succeed until I kick their butts. It is so different when I go to Malaysia, Indonesia and once in India . The kids there ask their parents to send them to my programme. They clap and cheer enthusiastically when the teachers enter the room and participate so willingly when lessons are on. I still scratch my head and wonder what happened to my fellow Singaporeans to this day.<br /><br />So mark my words, unless the new generation of Singaporeans wake up and get out of their happy over protected bubble and start fighting for their future, the expats (like our great grandfathers) will soon be the rulers of the country. At the rate at which talented and hungry expats are climbing up, our future prime minister may be an Indian or China PR or may even be an Ang Moh!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/157482</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/157482</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[OngMum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:46:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:36:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tutormum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Right, if my slow students can make it and do well enough to go to Express  stream for sec school and the China students can come in with poor English to top PSLE and get transferred from Normal to Express etc. Why the rest cannot? Singapore kids eat rice just as the China kids. Work hard, Singaporeans and show these Chinese students that we can also make it and excel. We are sleeping tigers and not sick cats.  :nunchuk:  :nunchuk:</blockquote></blockquote><br /> :rant: Yes well said...We must show them our Singapore Roar!!!<br />We are the taxpayers  :moneyflies: this is our turf we built it and our kids should enjoy the benefits ....<br /><br />The government should give more help to the local kids ...instead of always going oversea to bring back all these so call 'talented kids' :stupid:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145126</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145126</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinsiah]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:36:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:13:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Right, if my slow students can make it and do well enough to go to Express  stream for sec school and the China students can come in with poor English to top PSLE and get transferred from Normal to Express etc. Why the rest cannot? Singapore kids eat rice just as the China kids. Work hard, Singaporeans and show these Chinese students that we can also make it and excel. We are sleeping tigers and not sick cats.  :nunchuk:  :nunchuk:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145108</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145108</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tutormum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:13:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:05:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>justsay:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>dolphinsiah:</b><p>Great Thread...Now I know my younger child has hope... :thankyou:</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />Hi dolphinsiah,<br /><br />Don't give up. 加油!<p></p></blockquote>Yes...Never Give Up!!! :xedfingers: <br />Every Child has their potential ...we as a parent must guide them <br />they are like unpolished gems ....need a lot of polishing... :love:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145093</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/145093</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinsiah]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:05:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:49:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>dolphinsiah:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Great Thread...Now I know my younger child has hope... :thankyou:</blockquote></blockquote><br />Hi dolphinsiah,<br /><br />Don't give up. 加油!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/144953</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/144953</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[justsay]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 04:49:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:47:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Great Thread...Now I know my younger child has hope... :thankyou:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/144867</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/144867</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dolphinsiah]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:47:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:21:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>ooptimizer:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Yes, the neighbourhood schools produced the top student this year.</blockquote></blockquote><br />According to my friend who was in Qi Fa, that girl was naturally smart and was extremely hardworking. The difference between the top scorer and the second in qi fa was 20 (-/+) marks.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/132241</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/132241</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[xxjustakidxx]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:21:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:36:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I'm touched by the posts on this thread.<br /><br />Parents like you are gems indeed!<br /><br />and shame on those school teachers who fail in their duties.  :x  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f61b.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--stuck_out_tongue" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":P" alt="😛" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/132057</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/132057</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[dunnoleh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:36:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:26:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tonytanlt:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">The XXXXXX is organising a seminar on Education to discuss the policies change that need is required for our next generation. Our students need to be confident, outspoken, multi-skilled, and be prepared to unlearn what you learnt and to learn like an unlearnt. The learning environment should change. From one where students are asked to accept what is taught to one where students will challenge what is taught. Like a forest, we need to breed new varieties that will add biodiversity to the current. The learning environment should also be representative of the society where different people with varying strengths fulfill different roles. We must start to empower our students.<br /><br /><br />We will be discussing the following issues: 1.What are the education policies needed to prepare our next generation? 2.How can we make education as the key means of enhancing social mobility and employability of Singaporeans? 3.What are the education plans for Special Need/Disabled Children?<br /><br />Please join us. Or help forward to friends who may be interested. Thank you.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Regards, Tony, from XXXXXXX</blockquote></blockquote>Dear tonytanlt, much as we applaud your interest in the well-being of our school-going children, KiasuParents.com will NOT be a platform for ANY political Party to solicit views or promote their agenda, either in the Forums or as a paid service.  We seek to remain independent and focused on community sharing to improve the quality of parenting in Singapore.  As a result of this policy, all references to political Parties will be removed.<br /><br />Please use other channels for your needs.  Thank you.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/104975</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/104975</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ChiefKiasu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:26:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:34:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The XXXXXX is organising a seminar on Education to discuss the policies change that need is required for our next generation. Our students need to be confident, outspoken, multi-skilled, and be prepared to unlearn what you learnt and to learn like an unlearnt. The learning environment should change. From one where students are asked to accept what is taught to one where students will challenge what is taught. Like a forest, we need to breed new varieties that will add biodiversity to the current. The learning environment should also be representative of the society where different people with varying strengths fulfill different roles. We must start to empower our students.<br /><br /><br />We will be discussing the following issues: 1.What are the education policies needed to prepare our next generation? 2.How can we make education as the key means of enhancing social mobility and employability of Singaporeans? 3.What are the education plans for Special Need/Disabled Children?<br /><br />Please join us. Or help forward to friends who may be interested. Thank you.<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Regards, Tony, from XXXXXXX</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/104577</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/104577</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tonytanlt]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:34:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:32:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>To: bornsingaporean and son<br /><br />Your determination, hard work and most importantly, belief in yourselves are indeed commendable. You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labour and hope that you will continue in your endeavour to be successful in all<br />fields.<br />I always believe that underdogs will have their day and their success<br />stories never fail to touch me. So to all 90% of our students and their<br />parents (average 10% of the cohort go to top schools here), believe in<br />yourselves, strive for the better and all the best to you  :celebrate:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/102546</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/102546</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pinky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:32:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:03:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>All students studying in normal stream faces 3 pressures: social, classmates and family. Social refers to friends and relatives around him and social pressure is usually the greatest negative. Presure from classmates are usually negative as well, especially in the NT stream. There are expectation among peer classmates of certain behaviour conformance and it is hard not to be part of them.<br /><br /><br />So the only positive influence a student can hope for is family. In most cases, the family is already not positive for them (such as broken family, loss of one parent etc). If the family support is also missing, the only substitute would be the caring teachers from the school.<br /><br />Due to limited resources, some schools are very caring towards their NA students but not the NT. They motivates their NA students to aim high academically. For example, in year 2009, more than 40% of the Sec-1 NA students in ACS Barker were promoted to Sec-2 Express for year 2010.<br /><br />For the NT students, <a href="http://singapore.math-chinese-tutor.com/normal-technical-streaming-in-secondary-school/">http://singapore.math-chinese-tutor.com/normal-technical-streaming-in-secondary-school/</a> for them to switch over to NA. Most schools are not able to move too many NT students to NA as it would require huge amount of teacher reasources (assuming the ratio of 1 teacher to 10 students or less). For this reason, engaging external tutor is the best option if a parent wishes to move his child out of NT stream.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/102127</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/102127</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bentan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:03:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:43:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>ponyo:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Dear BornSingaporean <br /><br /><br />Thanks for sharing your story. It's a real shame what the school did. No one child should ever be written off.<br /><br />Just to share a short story to encourage you, my nephew was also from the Normal stream. However he did not give up on himself and he eventually did well enough to qualify for SP.<br /><br />Being artistically-inclined, he took up landscape design and he has been topping his cohort since(I think he even got into the Dean's List). As he will be graduating this year, he has even received invitations from NUS/NTU for their degree courses.<br /><br />So take heart. All roads lead to Rome, so they say. Just that some will take a longer time. Eventually we will get there. To quote Randy Pausch, who gave a really inspiring lecture before he died from pancreatic cancer, \"Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show how badly we want something. Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want something badly enough. They are there to keep out the other people.\"<br />- Randy Pausch ( 1960-2008 )<br /><br />If you have the time, do try to read the book \"The Last Lecture\" by Randy Pausch or watch the video (which the book was based on):<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo</a><br /><br />Cheers<br />Ponyo</blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost:  :goodpost:  :goodpost: Ponyo!!<br /><br />I read the book too! v v inspiring.<br /><br />Bornsingaporean, like Ponyo and Schweppes, I highly recommend this book.  Perhaps you and your child can read it together  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101940</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101940</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:43:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:35:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>ponyo:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />So take heart. All roads lead to Rome, so they say. Just that some will take a longer time. Eventually we will get there. To quote Randy Pausch, who gave a really inspiring lecture before he died from pancreatic cancer, \"Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show how badly we want something. Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want something badly enough. They are there to keep out the other people.\"<br />- Randy Pausch ( 1960-2008 )<br /><br />If you have the time, do try to read the book \"The Last Lecture\" by Randy Pausch or watch the video (which the book was based on):<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo</a><br /><br />Cheers<br />Ponyo</blockquote></blockquote>Yes, yes... agree with Ponyo that Randy Pausch's book on the \"Last Lecture\" and his appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show was brilliant. It's about sheer determination and not giving up in life. <i><i>Carpe Diem</i></i> (seize the day)  :lol:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101937</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101937</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[schweppes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:35:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:32:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>bornsingaporean:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">My son scored 147 for his PSLE and was put in the N(T) stream. Good news is that he got the school he wanted, well you all know the bad news. Wife was devastated and was trying all ways to appeal but to no avail. His first year was an eye opener for all of us. My son found out that no teacher in his school wanted to teach the Tech class. His form teacher was an Art teacher. There was very little focus on Maths and Science, and I found out that throughout the whole year in Sec one, his class only stepped into the science lab ONCE. But yet the exams included experiments and lab work. Even trying out for CCA's , the Tech boys were often not selected. Needless to say, my wife and I were furious with the school. It seems that the school had already written off these boys and they were just going through the motions until they could off load them to  the ITEs. <br /><br /><br />So we took over his studies, we told him to go to school and make friends and enjoy school life, while the real studying will take place at home. We had good tuition teachers and we got him to study both the Academic and the Tech stream curriculum. You see, my son loves history and geography, but being in the Tech stream, MOE has decided that he is not smart enough to learn about these subjects. <br /><br />To date , my son has topped his class in Sec one and Sec Two . He scores A's for math science english and CPA and Home econs He managed to get a C for chinese. He has identified the course he intends to do in ITE and has chartered his path to Poly. He knows what he wants and how to get it. He has not given up all though the school has given up on kids like him. He has learnt perseverence, honesty and getting the job done regardless of what others think. Those skills are more important for success in life. <br /><br />I have no doubt that he will succeed in whatever he does. And to all parents who are in the same situation, my advise is look at your child's strengths and more importantly listen to their plans and ideas and work with them to achieve those plans. Nobody wants to fail. Don't abdicate your child's education to the schools. <br /><br />Hope this helps.</blockquote></blockquote>Thanks bornsingaporean, for the very inspiring and heart-warming story. I really admire your son for his determination and personal conviction to do well. Despite the challenges he faced on the way, he never gave him.   :salute: <br /><br />Kudos also to you and DW for the emotional support and strength which you give to your child.  :celebrate:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101935</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101935</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[schweppes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:32:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:29:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Dear BornSingaporean <br /><br /><br />Thanks for sharing your story. It's a real shame what the school did. No one child should ever be written off.<br /><br />Just to share a short story to encourage you, my nephew was also from the Normal stream. However he did not give up on himself and he eventually did well enough to qualify for SP.<br /><br />Being artistically-inclined, he took up landscape design and he has been topping his cohort since(I think he even got into the Dean's List). As he will be graduating this year, he has even received invitations from NUS/NTU for their degree courses.<br /><br />So take heart. All roads lead to Rome, so they say. Just that some will take a longer time. Eventually we will get there. To quote Randy Pausch, who gave a really inspiring lecture before he died from pancreatic cancer, \"Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show how badly we want something. Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want something badly enough. They are there to keep out the other people.\"<br />- Randy Pausch ( 1960-2008 )<br /><br />If you have the time, do try to read the book \"The Last Lecture\" by Randy Pausch or watch the video (which the book was based on):<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo</a><br /><br />Cheers<br />Ponyo</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101933</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101933</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ponyo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:29:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:15:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It is a cruel reality that when a student got sent to NA or NT, the schools may not have the resources and ability to turn them around and just wait for ITE.  No wonder that say ITE stands for "It’s The End"<br /><br /><br /><br />It is very much up to the determination of the child to prove himself and the parents to prod and encourage</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101927</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101927</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:15:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:09:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>bornsingaporean:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">My son scored 147 for his PSLE and was put in the N(T) stream. Good news is that he got the school he wanted, well you all know the bad news. Wife was devastated and was trying all ways to appeal but to no avail. His first year was an eye opener for all of us. My son found out that no teacher in his school wanted to teach the Tech class. His form teacher was an Art teacher. There was very little focus on Maths and Science, and I found out that throughout the whole year in Sec one, his class only stepped into the science lab ONCE. But yet the exams included experiments and lab work. Even trying out for CCA's , the Tech boys were often not selected. Needless to say, my wife and I were furious with the school. It seems that the school had already written off these boys and they were just going through the motions until they could off load them to  the ITEs. <br /><br /><br />So we took over his studies, we told him to go to school and make friends and enjoy school life, while the real studying will take place at home. We had good tuition teachers and we got him to study both the Academic and the Tech stream curriculum. You see, my son loves history and geography, but being in the Tech stream, MOE has decided that he is not smart enough to learn about these subjects. <br /><br />To date , my son has topped his class in Sec one and Sec Two . He scores A's for math science english and CPA and Home econs He managed to get a C for chinese. He has identified the course he intends to do in ITE and has chartered his path to Poly. He knows what he wants and how to get it. He has not given up all though the school has given up on kids like him. He has learnt perseverence, honesty and getting the job done regardless of what others think. Those skills are more important for success in life. <br /><br />I have no doubt that he will succeed in whatever he does. And to all parents who are in the same situation, my advise is look at your child's strengths and more importantly listen to their plans and ideas and work with them to achieve those plans. Nobody wants to fail. Don't abdicate your child's education to the schools. <br /><br />Hope this helps.</blockquote></blockquote>How come he did not ask to be transferred to Express in Sec 2 ? Discussed that with the principal ?  If the result in good enough, why not ? It will be good morale booster for the child<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101917</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101917</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:09:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:05:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>DCparent:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">He posted to Commonwealth NA and start the term and just received call that Tech Whye give him a place in Express.  :idea: Should I take Teck Whye or remain in Commomwealth? :? <br /><br /><br />I know Commonwealth is a good school vs Teck Whye but should I choose Express over NA....</blockquote></blockquote>Commonwealth is any time better than Teck Whye.  That is why he should stay in Commonwealth, work hard, aim to be the top in the coming SA1 and SA2, and he possibly can be transferred to Express in Commonwealth<br /><br />I have friends whose kid qualifies for Express (but not in his preferred school) but choose to go Normal in his dream school and hoping to get a transfer to Express later on<br /><br />I have also seen Express students being transferred out to Normal at end of Sec 1 and end of Sec 2 and vice versa<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101912</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101912</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:05:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:27:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>DCparent:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">He posted to Commonwealth NA and start the term and just received call that Tech Whye give him a place in Express.  :idea: Should I take Teck Whye or remain in Commomwealth? :? <br /><br /><br />I know Commonwealth is a good school vs Teck Whye but should I choose Express over NA....</blockquote></blockquote>DC parent,<br /><br />I hope this is not too late. <br /><br />My 2 cents worth ...<br /><br />Many may advise you to put him in the espress stream...<br /><br />But to me, as a former educator, its not merely only the matter of choosing.  Its also whether your child is able to cope being in the express stream as well.  You need to assess your child's capability.<br /><br />If you do decide to put him in the express stream, you will need to speak to him and explain what it entails for him.  You will also need to monitor your child's progress.  <br /><br />Hope this helps  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" />  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101826</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101826</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:27:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:22:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>bornsingaporean:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">My son scored 147 for his PSLE and was put in the N(T) stream. Good news is that he got the school he wanted, well you all know the bad news. Wife was devastated and was trying all ways to appeal but to no avail. His first year was an eye opener for all of us. My son found out that no teacher in his school wanted to teach the Tech class. His form teacher was an Art teacher. There was very little focus on Maths and Science, and I found out that throughout the whole year in Sec one, his class only stepped into the science lab ONCE. But yet the exams included experiments and lab work. Even trying out for CCA's , the Tech boys were often not selected. Needless to say, my wife and I were furious with the school. It seems that the school had already written off these boys and they were just going through the motions until they could off load them to  the ITEs. <br /><br /><br />So we took over his studies, we told him to go to school and make friends and enjoy school life, while the real studying will take place at home. We had good tuition teachers and we got him to study both the Academic and the Tech stream curriculum. You see, my son loves history and geography, but being in the Tech stream, MOE has decided that he is not smart enough to learn about these subjects. <br /><br />To date , my son has topped his class in Sec one and Sec Two . He scores A's for math science english and CPA and Home econs He managed to get a C for chinese. He has identified the course he intends to do in ITE and has chartered his path to Poly. He knows what he wants and how to get it. He has not given up all though the school has given up on kids like him. He has learnt perseverence, honesty and getting the job done regardless of what others think. Those skills are more important for success in life. <br /><br />I have no doubt that he will succeed in whatever he does. And to all parents who are in the same situation, my advise is look at your child's strengths and more importantly listen to their plans and ideas and work with them to achieve those plans. Nobody wants to fail. Don't abdicate your child's education to the schools. <br /><br />Hope this helps.</blockquote></blockquote>Hi Bornsingaporean,<br /><br />Indeed, it is really heartwarming to read your inspirational story.<br /><br />I am appalled that your child's school is like that.  From my experience as as a former educator, the mgt usually assigns 'tough' and 'seasoned' teachers to such classes.  For the school to 'write off' your son's class, really - SHAME on them.<br /><br />I do hope many parents will adopt a similar attitude and not give up on their kids as well.<br /><br />Thank you for sharing, I :salute: you, your wife and your DS  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101823</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101823</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:22:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:34:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BornSingaporean for yet another inspirational story.  Kudos to your son and Kudos to you as a parent. :salute:<br /><br /><br />All I want to say is if I were a teacher, I will opt to teach the Normal Stream.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101788</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101788</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:34:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:31:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My son scored 147 for his PSLE and was put in the N(T) stream. Good news is that he got the school he wanted, well you all know the bad news. Wife was devastated and was trying all ways to appeal but to no avail. His first year was an eye opener for all of us. My son found out that no teacher in his school wanted to teach the Tech class. His form teacher was an Art teacher. There was very little focus on Maths and Science, and I found out that throughout the whole year in Sec one, his class only stepped into the science lab ONCE. But yet the exams included experiments and lab work. Even trying out for CCA’s , the Tech boys were often not selected. Needless to say, my wife and I were furious with the school. It seems that the school had already written off these boys and they were just going through the motions until they could off load them to  the ITEs. <br /><br /><br />So we took over his studies, we told him to go to school and make friends and enjoy school life, while the real studying will take place at home. We had good tuition teachers and we got him to study both the Academic and the Tech stream curriculum. You see, my son loves history and geography, but being in the Tech stream, MOE has decided that he is not smart enough to learn about these subjects. <br /><br />To date , my son has topped his class in Sec one and Sec Two . He scores A’s for math science english and CPA and Home econs He managed to get a C for chinese. He has identified the course he intends to do in ITE and has chartered his path to Poly. He knows what he wants and how to get it. He has not given up all though the school has given up on kids like him. He has learnt perseverence, honesty and getting the job done regardless of what others think. Those skills are more important for success in life. <br /><br />I have no doubt that he will succeed in whatever he does. And to all parents who are in the same situation, my advise is look at your child’s strengths and more importantly listen to their plans and ideas and work with them to achieve those plans. Nobody wants to fail. Don’t abdicate your child’s education to the schools. <br /><br />Hope this helps.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101783</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/101783</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bornsingaporean]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:31:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Surviving Normal stream on Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:02:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>He posted to Commonwealth NA and start the term and just received call that Tech Whye give him a place in Express.  :idea: Should I take Teck Whye or remain in Commomwealth? :? <br /><br /><br />I know Commonwealth is a good school vs Teck Whye but should I choose Express over NA....</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/100724</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/100724</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[DCparent]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:02:08 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>