Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone?

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 06:41:22 GMT

hquek — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 06:41:22 GMT

phtthp:
What has it got to do, with the dead maid's employer ?

Why should it be the employer's fault ?

Not the employer's fault, but guess who gets the task to clean up? eg arrange for repatriation of the body. Not sure if the embassy will step in to help. Recall I heard (long time ago) that it costed about S$10K to send a dead body home.

If deceased maid has outstanding loan...guess who gets left holding the baby - certainly not the maid, her family...it will be the employer.

Broadly, if maid gets into any altercation with boyfriend and gets hospitalized...guess who foots the bill? Unfortunately, with so much responsibility placed on employers, it's no wonder that employers are scared to give their maids too much freedom.

Then again, agree that not all maids are like that; on the other hand, not all employers are monsters and 'inhumane'.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:53:37 GMT

pirate — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:53:37 GMT

Try explaining to your kids why your married maid has a boyfriend.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:39:16 GMT

phtthp — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:39:16 GMT

pirated:

Too much socialization resulting in being dead with an Indian national in Geylang Lor 16..... employer's fault again ,,

This Geylang hotel 81, is a murder cum suicide.
The woman had wounds on her body, and she was found partially dressed. There were blood stain in the hotel room, bathroom.

What can their background story be ?
I guess ...

maybe maid has found a better / richer boyfriend, wish to terminate current boyfriend. Current boyfriend discovered she has a new boyfriend. Current boyfriend said \"ok, let's meet up & discuss at a hotel, this Sunday. I love you, do not leave me.\"

After their last s** inside the hotel room : foreign worker murdered her, because can't accept that she want to leave him. After that, he commit suicide, join her in death.

This is their personal boyfriend - girlfriend issue.
Their personal love life.

Geylang Lorong 16 one long stretch down ... is a red light district.

What has it got to do, with the dead maid's employer ?
Why should it be the employer's fault ?

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:17:53 GMT

12mum — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:17:53 GMT

Recently a Myanmar maid set fire to the employer’s house.

Quite scary…and sad.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:02:44 GMT

phtthp — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:02:44 GMT

an Indonesian woman in her 20s, found dead with an Indian man, in Geylang hotel Lorong 16

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/s ... 30524.html

On Sunday (maids' off day) -
you see a lot of maids hanging around outside Aljunied MRT, Paya Lebar Mrt.
nearby Geylang hotel : are these 2 Mrt stations.
go & see for yourself on Sunday how packed these station are, maids with Bangladesh foreign workers boyfriends.

Singpost (PayA Lebar) is a favorite hangout, for Indonesian maids.
Singpost has become the Indonesian maids' version of Lucky Plaza (Orchard road)
On Sunday, Singpost is a favorite hangout for Bangladesh workers.
They meet up their girlfriend, makan, then go ...

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:48:35 GMT

pirated — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:48:35 GMT

ChiefKiasu:
Goodbosshappymaid:
...

Our enlightened Singapore Government has therefore made the right move to mandate “Weekly Rest Day “ to give all maids “One off day Only per week” while some of their employers get two consecutive off days on Saturday & Sunday! The Weekly Rest Day Law stipulates that employers could only negotiable but not force maids to forgo off day. Our Government has seen the problems of employers not giving off day to the maids. Our Government have all the good reasons for doing so, one of which is a human being’s natural instinct of desirous of keeping oneself in contact with loved ones and socialising with friends to share & care. Rest days (Off days) naturally bring about friends and hence the needs to have one’s own hand phone to keep in touch with friends to share and care . No one can ignore these nature needs of a maid who is a human being.

Every maid should be entitled to off day (s), and the free use of her own hand phone at mutually agreed times and manners whether in the day or at night , depending on individual employer’s household conditions and job requirements of the maid. It is the responsibility of the employer concerned to enable and facilitate and regulate maid’s use of hand phone to work out a win –win solution for both the employer and the maid.
...
However, if you examine MOM's rules, they put too much onus on employers to be responsible for their maids' behavior. Any digression by maid could cause employers to lose their security deposits, along with having to pay for the maid's air ticket, etc., even if it is not the employers' fault. This is directly leading to:
a) abuse by a handful of maids who use the rules to cherry pick employers, and
b) employers clamping down on maids to stop them from socialising with other maids/friends to reduce the chance of them turning \"bad\" and running away.

So what is intended as welfare for maids is now creating the reverse situation of creating problems for maids.

Too much socialization resulting in being dead with an Indian national in Geylang Lor 16..... employer's fault again ,,

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:44:32 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 04:44:32 GMT

Goodbosshappymaid:
...

Our enlightened Singapore Government has therefore made the right move to mandate “Weekly Rest Day “ to give all maids “One off day Only per week” while some of their employers get two consecutive off days on Saturday & Sunday! The Weekly Rest Day Law stipulates that employers could only negotiable but not force maids to forgo off day. Our Government has seen the problems of employers not giving off day to the maids. Our Government have all the good reasons for doing so, one of which is a human being’s natural instinct of desirous of keeping oneself in contact with loved ones and socialising with friends to share & care. Rest days (Off days) naturally bring about friends and hence the needs to have one’s own hand phone to keep in touch with friends to share and care . No one can ignore these nature needs of a maid who is a human being.

Every maid should be entitled to off day (s), and the free use of her own hand phone at mutually agreed times and manners whether in the day or at night , depending on individual employer’s household conditions and job requirements of the maid. It is the responsibility of the employer concerned to enable and facilitate and regulate maid’s use of hand phone to work out a win –win solution for both the employer and the maid.
...

However, if you examine MOM's rules, they put too much onus on employers to be responsible for their maids' behavior. Any digression by maid could cause employers to lose their security deposits, along with having to pay for the maid's air ticket, etc., even if it is not the employers' fault. This is directly leading to:
a) abuse by a handful of maids who use the rules to cherry pick employers, and
b) employers clamping down on maids to stop them from socialising with other maids/friends to reduce the chance of them turning \"bad\" and running away.

So what is intended as welfare for maids is now creating the reverse situation of creating problems for maids.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sun, 01 Feb 2015 17:49:20 GMT

st2 — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 17:49:20 GMT

The employment of the maid is not the same as our employment/job. For one we don’t live in our boss’s house.

The maid can quit, if they don’t like us, pay their own fare back home and find another employer as it should be. May I ask for bus/taxi fare when I leave my employer and also food and lodging? They should be made to leave Singapore and then come back to a new employer. Because of this transfer rule, some employers poach them, instigate them to change employer.

Quit and transfer, are they the same thing? Do we transfer our job? While the maid is on transfer, we are still paying levy and lodging. Does my boss pay levy and lodging 21 days for me to shake legs while I go to another job?

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:04:44 GMT

janet88 — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:04:44 GMT

maids can have boyfriends, friends and use their mobile phone…they are humans and cannot live without these. the problem arises when they abuse…yakking on the mobile phone all day with their boyfriends and friends.

maids are employed with an agreement. they are provided accommodation and fed. employers are on a losing end (all the time) when maids claim abuse (ok, some employers do abuse the maids). what about the maids who put detergent in the employers’ food, baby’s milk, steal and neglect their duties?

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:42:03 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:42:03 GMT

While I agree that the rule that maids get a free ticket home if they run off to embassy is subject to abuse, a "no transfer" rule will not work. If we don’t like our employer, we should be free to quit and work for another employer. It should remain a fundamental right that maids get to decide if they want to change employers.

The biggest problem with MOM’s rules are that they are mostly based on the assumption that employers will abuse maids if given the chance. Yet the rules themselves create a situation where employers had to clamp down on maids to reduce the chance of them "turning bad" by removing the opportunity for them to socialise, because employers have to bear all the consequences should maids turn bad.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:48:04 GMT

icemountain — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:48:04 GMT

MTSC:

I think the successes lie with mutual respect for each other, understanding that the maid are just no different from our own daughters, sisters, lowering down our expectations, then relationship will work well..

I agree with the \"mutual respect\" aspect.

Employers should not set draconian rules like no handphone at all, no making friends etc. Maids are humans not robots.

Maids should exercise self control and respect their employers' rules on handphone usage. Which employer can tolerate their staff yakking or texting all day while on the job? Many companies block social media on their network, is this abuse of human rights?

If employers are not fair, maids are free to leave.

If maids don't respect their employers' rules, their employers have every right to terminate them.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 08:23:15 GMT

phtthp — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 08:23:15 GMT

pirated:
The root of the problem ? MOM becomes Ministry of the Maids, I read some where.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ABUSES BY THE MAIDS

Precisely !
:goodpost:

The　ｆｏｃｕｓ　ａｎｄ　ｃｅｎｔｒａｌ theme of this thread is talking about　　ＡＢＵＳＥＳ by the Ｍaid　，　ｔｏ　 Sg　 household that have Young Children, Elderly old folks, Handicapped.

when hire a maid to look after these weak and helpless handicapped, Employers also have Human Rights

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 08:18:34 GMT

pirated — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 08:18:34 GMT

The root of the problem ? MOM becomes Ministry of the Maids, I read some where.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ABUSES BY THE MAIDS

No employers sane enough would like to create problems for themselves.

As long as the maids are abusing the system, creating troubles and being irresponsible, uncontrollable in phone usage, unteachable, steal and lie, they ought to be sacked and repatriated without mercies. Why are they so special and not to be treated like any normal employees who commit the same troubles ? Thieves are sent to jail right ? We are only sending them back, not to jail. Very kind already. Maids have more rights and employers have more wrongs. Idiotic system, really.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:48:27 GMT

janet88 — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:48:27 GMT

st2:

New Agenda:
Say yes to everything, get into Singapore first, then ask for transfer.
Act dumb and spoil employers' things or show black face everyday or act crazy if employer refuse transfer.
Must choose employer that give off day, handphone use, wi-fi access. Set up facebook account. Keep in touch with all my friends all over the world.
Look for few boyfriends to have fun and gifts.
Or not shiok.... runaway to embassy and relax few weeks and then go home with free ticket.
NO BIG DEAL!!!
Everything free, don't make money but don't loose any money.....why not?!?!?

I can't offer a win win big big suggestion....however...I believe that no transfers and maid have to pay their own ticket if they don't complete 2 year contract will show who is serious to work.

if employer has a big family, then ask for transfer.
if employer has a mother who comes over with grandchildren, either ask for more pay or quit.
in short, come to Singapore to enjoy life.

MOM should allow NO TRANSFERS. if maids are not happy, either they find another employer or buy a ticket home.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:40:01 GMT

icemountain — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:40:01 GMT

st2:
Maids' agenda has changed.

It used to be:
I will do my best, work hard to please employer. So employer will renew my contract. get a raise in salary, get Ang Pow, make more money and send home to buy land, build house, start new business, send my children to school and let them have the best education.
Learn as much Chinese cooking, Cantonese/Mandarin as I can, maybe can go Hong Kong or Taiwan - higher salary

New Agenda:
Say yes to everything, get into Singapore first, then ask for transfer.
Act dumb and spoil employers' things or show black face everyday or act crazy if employer refuse transfer.
Must choose employer that give off day, handphone use, wi-fi access. Set up facebook account. Keep in touch with all my friends all over the world.
Look for few boyfriends to have fun and gifts.
Or not shiok.... runaway to embassy and relax few weeks and then go home with free ticket.
NO BIG DEAL!!!
Everything free, don't make money but don't loose any money.....why not?!?!?

Most maids these days are not yakking with their family/\"loved ones\" back home.....they are scared that they would ask for money.

The maids are yakking with their friends back home or here........who knows what they are yakking about.....soooo...ooo much to yakkaty yak yak 24/7

I can't offer a win win big big suggestion....however...I believe that no transfers and maid have to pay their own ticket if they don't complete 2 year contract will show who is serious to work.

I agree with you. My previous maid wasn't serious about work. I too believe in human rights. My maid gets plenty of rest, food. She eats whatever we eat. She gets days off. I treated her like an adult and didn't ban her from using her phone, I let her make friends with maids in my area. However, what I got was:

1) no phone in daytime. She took liberties to text instead. So there she was sitting in front of me texting away all day. We went out to Sentosa and she was always texting on the phone. It got to the point where she was cooking and a text came in, she left the kitchen to answer the text. After a week of this, I told her to stop. But this only means she stopped in front of me.

2) making friends. I allowed her to take my kids down to the playground every evening. She had opportunities to socialize with her friends every day. This maid is definitely not isolated socially. Then one day, her friends brought their charges to my place. I was okay but an hour later, they all disappeared, I then found out she had brought my toddler to her friend's place at the next block without telling me nor my husband. Both of us were home. She didn't think to tell me she was taking my kid out!! Bear in mind I still kept her after this incident.

3) connecting with family. I set up Skype for her and her family, every week she is allowed unlimited time to skype on my laptop. Then my family went on a holiday without her. When I came home, I found my laptop switched on. I was livid as I had personal information stored and she had invaded my privacy. If she wanted to call/skype, I would always allow her, she didn't have to do it behind my back.

So I don't know what it means to be a responsible employer now, give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:17:40 GMT

pirated — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:17:40 GMT

st2:
Maids' agenda has changed.

It used to be:
I will do my best, work hard to please employer. So employer will renew my contract. get a raise in salary, get Ang Pow, make more money and send home to buy land, build house, start new business, send my children to school and let them have the best education.
Learn as much Chinese cooking, Cantonese/Mandarin as I can, maybe can go Hong Kong or Taiwan - higher salary

New Agenda:
Say yes to everything, get into Singapore first, then ask for transfer.
Act dumb and spoil employers' things or show black face everyday or act crazy if employer refuse transfer.
Must choose employer that give off day, handphone use, wi-fi access. Set up facebook account. Keep in touch with all my friends all over the world.
Look for few boyfriends to have fun and gifts.
Or not shiok.... runaway to embassy and relax few weeks and then go home with free ticket.
NO BIG DEAL!!!
Everything free, don't make money but don't loose any money.....why not?!?!?

Most maids these days are not yakking with their family/\"loved ones\" back home.....they are scared that they would ask for money.

The maids are yakking with their friends back home or here........who knows what they are yakking about.....soooo...ooo much to yakkaty yak yak 24/7

I can't offer a win win big big suggestion....however...I believe that no transfers and maid have to pay their own ticket if they don't complete 2 year contract will show who is serious to work.

I think that's right.

We have been sold out by human rights champion who play to the ILO gallery just not to be listed as human trafficking. But these idiots can't differentiate between human trafficking and economic uplifting for this group of workers.

These human rights workers can't tell the wrong from the right

Time to start a Maids' Wrong advocacy group

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 18:48:43 GMT

st2 — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 18:48:43 GMT

Maids’ agenda has changed.

It used to be:
I will do my best, work hard to please employer. So employer will renew my contract. get a raise in salary, get Ang Pow, make more money and send home to buy land, build house, start new business, send my children to school and let them have the best education.
Learn as much Chinese cooking, Cantonese/Mandarin as I can, maybe can go Hong Kong or Taiwan - higher salary

New Agenda:
Say yes to everything, get into Singapore first, then ask for transfer.
Act dumb and spoil employers’ things or show black face everyday or act crazy if employer refuse transfer.
Must choose employer that give off day, handphone use, wi-fi access. Set up facebook account. Keep in touch with all my friends all over the world.
Look for few boyfriends to have fun and gifts.
Or not shiok… runaway to embassy and relax few weeks and then go home with free ticket.
NO BIG DEAL!!!
Everything free, don’t make money but don’t loose any money…why not???

Most maids these days are not yakking with their family/"loved ones" back home…they are scared that they would ask for money.

The maids are yakking with their friends back home or here…who knows what they are yakking about…soooo…ooo much to yakkaty yak yak 24/7

I can’t offer a win win big big suggestion…however…I believe that no transfers and maid have to pay their own ticket if they don’t complete 2 year contract will show who is serious to work.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:05:23 GMT

icemountain — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:05:23 GMT

My previous maid was allowed phone after 8pm, after my toddler went to bed. However, she still tried means and ways to use the phone in the daytime when she was supposed to be keeping an eye on my 18 month old. I caught her sitting on the playground yakking away while my toddler ran around. That was in her 1st month of work. She also bought her first smartphone with her angpow money, 2 months after working for me,

She asked my older kid for the internet password, and then used my iPad to post on her FB, when my kid didn’t know the password.

She was free by 8pm everyday and only up at 8am. She also naps when my toddler naps. Despite that, she yawns and seems tired in the daytime, I didn’t understand why until one day, I heard her on her phone at midnight yakking.

She also had a maid friend who called my house in the afternoon looking for her. The thing is, my maid didn’t have my house phone number. We concluded she must have been using our phone as well.

Married maid with kid more mature? Not mine.

I finally let her go after 2 years, not because of the phone, but because of other problems. Plenty of maids in my area are practically glued to their phones. I have seen maids yakking away while their young charges run around and nobody keeping an eye on them. I’ve seen a young kid nearly running onto the road while the maid was laughing into her phone.

I also regularly see a maid sitting on a bench chatting on her phone whilst an elderly man in wheelchair under her charge stare blankly into space.

Young kids and the elderly are particularly vulnerable if their maids are addicted to their phones.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:38:20 GMT

pirated — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:38:20 GMT

Grandma,

we are just saying, if the maids are irresponsible, unteachable, incorrigible, ultra-bad attitude, steals, don’t do work - send them back.

if they are half as good as yours, we will keep them, even tolerating their nonsense and black face, and paying all the benefits (but NOT abuses or thousands of $$ of phone bills!)

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:32:08 GMT

pirated — Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:32:08 GMT

Grandmasharing:
ChiefKiasu:
Most Singaporeans are pragmatic. We are time-starved, or perhaps simply plain lazy. We just want someone to help us do the things which we do not like to do. It doesn't matter whether this help comes from a person or a robot...

The fact is, if we wish to engage humans as maids, we have to accept all the social issues that come along with that. Maids are humans, and we need to respect them as humans.
Hi ChiefKiasu

I am fully agreeable with you that \"we have to accept all the social issues that come along with that. Maids are humans, and we need to respect them as humans\".

My families, right from my husband & I , my siblings' generation starting more than 30 years ago until our own grown up children now, we have been employing maids to look after our children & now our grandchildren. We have since more than 30 years ago, been facilitating every maid to go for one off day per month ( even when MOM had not even thought of weekly rest day law). We have been enabling every maid to use our home phone once a month to contact their families in the Philippines or Indonesia and in recent years Myanmar ( when we started to try Myanmar maids) for 15 minutes. They are allowed to go down to the void deck of our HDB blocks to queue up with other maids in the evening or sometimes in the day with our permission to contact their families and friends to make appointment for their of days.

We make it our family's policy that we do not interfere with any private life of our maids thus no question asked as to whether they have boy friend or meeting any man on their offday. It is up to them to tell us and we advise every maid to \"open their eyes\" to guard against getting into a \"wrong relationship\" resulting in irretrievable consequences such as becoming pregnant while the man concerned does not want to be responsible and they have to leave Singapore, loss income, face lifetime shame and regrets..

All our maids finished contracts, renewed contracts except for one Filipino whose husband met with accident , passed away in Hawaii at work and she was too distraught that she had to leave us for the Philippines to attend to the funeral etc.. We had to change a maid to replace the maid who had once take care of our children and now she had become a young widow with a young child of her own who she had parted with for more than a year to work for us. We could only sympathise with her , encouraged her to move on with life ...

We had to accept the reality that we had to incur airticket cost to send her home , pay fresh agency fee etc and spent times to re-employ and retrain a new maid. What to do? This is part and parcel of the costs to be incurred , the risks involved in employing a fulltime helper to help us perform household chores, cook for our family , take care of our children while we had to work full-time and could not enjoy the luxuries of being a \"Stay-At-Home-Mum (SAHM) \" who keep telling employers, readers here to sack maids ! go for part-time maids!, go without maids? without coming out with any constructive and useful suggestions , acceptable and workable house rules for full-time working mums and dads to manage full-time maids who are human beings needing off days, hand phones of their own , in a win-win manner for both parties.

Grandma, it is easy for you to be a saint when you have not encountered :

- maids who ran your housephone bills to a few thousand dollars a month,

- maids who repeatedly stole money from you, after warning, police report, and threaten to send home, and even if your purposely hide the money somewhere she still manage to find out where

- maids who left household chores undone while yakking on the mobile phone for hours, like someone here said, headphone plugged in 24/7, couldn't even hear people calling

Grandma - instead of \"I am holier than thou\", please tell us how to manage the above situations if they are your office employees or your subordinate in the office, or if they are your maids.

I am sure not all 200,000 of the maids in singapore are like the above, I am also sure that not all are like yours.

So, please tell us, what would you do. If maids are human beings, maid-employers who have full time job, parenting duties, etc etc are ALSO human beings.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:02:31 GMT

jetsetter — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:02:31 GMT

xxmummy:
I would say prevention is better than cure. Get maids from agencies that exercise more stringent due diligence when short-listing maids for its portfolio - their maids have better attitudes. Select married woman who have children because they are more mature. Many are here working to support their own children or build own house back home so they are self-motivated and won't want to be in any trouble if they can help it. I also find Filipinos very patient - great with children and elders. Many are Catholics or Christians so good moral values and more self-disciplined.

Thereafter, it's mutual respect and trust to build a good employer-maid relationship. Takes time and effort to train a new maid so it is a win-win situation if she is able to complete her 2 years contract and lagi better extend to 4, 6 years.

Erhm, not entirely true...Married ones with children could be lonely (read: frisky) too and yearn for companionship and physical intimacy. Many do stray (and lose their religion) when they meet fellow foreign workers they can get along with.

But agree that it's mutual respect. I allowed my ex-FDW to phone her bf in Indonesia every night, and sometimes during the day as well, so long as her performance and output wasn't affected. I respected her privacy and didn't check her SMSes or phone log.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:08:59 GMT

JJ1111 — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:08:59 GMT

hquek:

Not to mention medical bills all covered by employers hor....even if it's for delivery, I don't think hospitals will make the maids pay.

Half curious...can claim insurance? Cos she may have 'accidentally' conceived.

LOL!!! Claim insurance? :whut:

Wait long long.

Reply to Cruel to sack maid have boyfriend, friends or use handphone? on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:52:36 GMT

hquek — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:52:36 GMT

referring to the insurance that employers now have to cough up for…can’t recall if hospitalization or medical (or both)