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octoberbaby:
I have the same intention too for my sec 2 boy. No doubt he has the potential for cca leadership and student counsellor leader. But he is not academically inclined. I am afraid with o level result which he will not qualified for reputable jc. Very very disappointing compare to his sister who is in RI jc1. Anyhow, i missed the boat for ACS IB programme. Already registered for NUS high . VS and SJI end of term 3 i guess.

If he is not academically inclined, is it a good idea for him to try to transfer to NUS High which appears to be academically very rigorous? VS and SJI are very different schools and located in very different places. What are considerations in choosing these schools? If he's not doing particularly well he will likely moved to the O level programme in those schools even if he does get a transfer. Is that what you would like?

What does your son think? Is he happy where he is?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/82040/transfer-from-non-ip-school-to-ip-schoolRSS for NodeTue, 21 Apr 2026 02:21:45 GMTTue, 26 Apr 2016 05:13:23 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:30:40 GMT]]>

Ninjazz34:
Hi parents:) Ninjazz34 here!


I have intentions on transferring to a IP school this year for Sec 3 next year.I decided that I would apply to a few schools instead of just one so that I can try my luck.

However,one of the IP schools I'm deciding to apply for doesn't have an entrance exam.
Since its one of the top schools, for a neighbourhood school student,chances are deemed to be 0% as their criteria will be really strict and what's more,the whole curriculum will be different and such.

So I would like to clear the following doubts to reconsider my decision:

1. Is studying in an IP school hard as what people make it out to be?

2. What are the usual hours your child gets back from school?
(excludes days that they have CCA)Do they have enough time to complete homework and projects?

3. Are they stressed out or depressed of the competitiveness in the school(if any)?

I hope that someone can help and answer these questions.Thank you!
which Junior College are you targeting at, for A level ?

if you're targeting highly reputable Junior colleges, like RI / HCI -
then you probably need 3 points, from your coming 2018 GCE \"O\" level results (since you're already in Secondary 2 \"O\" level class, this year 2016), in order to apply.

for Victoria JC / National JC :
need 5 points, to apply.


can refer to listing of Cut off Points, for entry into various individual A level Junior Colleges (up to 20 points, max) :-

http://mothership.sg/2015/10/junior-col ... j-and-hci/


if you are really keen to bypass major O level exam, seek Transfer from O level into IP school, then start applying to your desired IP Secondary school now, check to see whether vacancies arise for them to take you in, starting Sec 3 IP, next year (January 2017)

should the IP school decide to accept you for Transfer, be mentally challenged for new changes to come upon you, & adjust accordingly :
the new IP environment, new school mates, new classmates, new project mates in IP, new Teachers, new Cca coaches, new Cca team mates, players, new school culture to embrace, everything new to you !
(unless you happen to be already currently in a dual track Secondary school)

also, the new way of adjusting yourself to study the IP curriculum, from your almost past 2 years studying the O level style.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672291https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672291Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:30:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:08:20 GMT]]>source of info

http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2 ... dents.html

extracted, from above published article :-

\" ....

Despite his sterling grades though, getting into RI is not a sure thing. The school's cut-off last year was three points, this year's cut-off is not known yet, and there is no telling how many will apply to go there.


All but the very best O-level students will find it difficult to get into Singapore's top junior colleges: RI, Hwa Chong Institution, Victoria JC, Temasek JC and National JC.

The reason: All have integrated programmes (IP), which means that most of their JC-level places are already taken up by students who have been there since Secondary 1 or 3.

All will accept new students at JC level as well, but it promises to be highly competitive for hopefuls like Vesshnu.

According to the Education Ministry, at least 20 per cent of JC1 places in each IP school will be reserved for students applying through the joint admission exercise after the O-levels.

RI has about 300 places out of 1,250 at JC1 each year, and Hwa Chong, 250 out of 1,200. No details are available for the other schools.


The number of places may well be lower, because the schools can also enrol students through the Direct School Admission (DSA) scheme, accepting them based on their talents rather than O-level results. The schools declined to reveal how many places go to DSA students, saying it varies from year to year.

The cut-off for entry to the JCs is determined by each year's O-level results and the number of places available. For RI and Hwa Chong, last year's cut-off was three points for both science and arts, after deducting bonus points.

In all, there are now seven schools running the Integrated programme at junior college level which take in students after the O-levels.

Most O-level school-leavers who want to do the A levels will stand a better chance of getting into one of the 12 remaining \"traditional\" JCs which offer only the two-year A-level course.

These include established schools like Anglo-Chinese JC, Anderson JC and Catholic JC, as well as newer ones like Pioneer, Meridian and Innova JCs.

Many usually take in 750 to 900 students, though JCs like Yishun and Innova - with the lowest cut-offs of 20 points - have previously taken in fewer than 700.

There is also the Millennia Institute, which offers a three-year A-level course. It takes in about 550 to 600 students each year and its cut-off is 20 points.

Given the changes to the junior college scene since the introduction of through-train programmes at JCs, secondary schools and specialised schools, there are now 24 schools offering the A levels or an equivalent programme.

In the next few years, two more will run a junior college programme: the Singapore Sports School will offer the International Baccalaureate diploma course next year and a new JC will open in 2017 for students from three schools offering the IP jointly - CHIJ St Nicholas Girls', Catholic High and Singapore Chinese Girls' School.

Barring other changes, there could be 26 schools with junior college programmes by 2017.

- See more at: http://ifonlysingaporeans.blogspot.sg/2 ... cJj7u.dpuf

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672278https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672278Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:08:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:13:09 GMT]]>

octoberbaby:
I see from my dd's schoolmates, some are siblings go to RGS or RI. Goodness what i had done, that my second one has to go to CMI sec sch.

Every child is different. I hope your 2nd child doesn't feel as bad about his school as you do. I am in a similar position - I have one in RI and another in MI. In the long run, what matters is the child's self-esteem and ability to find his niche and to be happy in it, whether at the top, bottom or somewhere in between. And if he's not so academically inclined, would putting him in a school where the academic challenge is higher be the best choice? He may struggle more, and have less time and energy to shine in other areas like leadership and CCA. My belief is that finding the right fit (where the child is more on par with his schoolmates) is better than putting a child in a school where he is likely to be at the bottom of the pack. Especially with the intention to have more holistic assessment of students, non-academic achievements will be more important, and just being with higher-achieving students will not necessarily \"rub off\" on other students. If anything, it can be very discouraging for those who are less high-achieving, and probably leads to poorer performance overall.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672118https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672118Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:13:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:48:48 GMT]]>I see from my dd’s schoolmates, some are siblings go to RGS or RI. Goodness what i had done, that my second one has to go to CMI sec sch.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672027https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672027Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:48:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:40:48 GMT]]>I have the same intention too for my sec 2 boy. No doubt he has the potential for cca leadership and student counsellor leader. But he is not academically inclined. I am afraid with o level result which he will not qualified for reputable jc. Very very disappointing compare to his sister who is in RI jc1. Anyhow, i missed the boat for ACS IB programme. Already registered for NUS high . VS and SJI end of term 3 i guess.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672022https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1672022Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:40:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sun, 24 Apr 2016 02:53:34 GMT]]>

Ninjazz34:
Hi parents:) Ninjazz34 here!


I have intentions on transferring to a IP school this year for Sec 3 next year.I decided that I would apply to a few schools instead of just one so that I can try my luck.However,one of the IP schools I'm deciding to apply for doesn't have an entrance exam.Since its one of the top schools,for a neighbourhood school student,chances are deemed to be 0% as their criteria will be really strict and what's more,the whole curriculum will be different and such.

So I would like to clear the following doubts to reconsider my decision:

1.Is studying in an IP school hard as what people make it out to be?
2.What are the usual hours your child gets back from school?(excludes days that they have CCA)Do they have enough time to complete homework and projects?
3.Are they stressed out or depressed of the competitiveness in the school(if any)?

I hope that someone can help and answer these questions.Thank you!
hi Ninjazz34,

why do you want to change from an existing, current Sec 2 O level class, to an IP school, when you've already settled down and stabilized yourself well in an O level class, for almost past 2 years ?
why want to uproot yourself ?

is it because you just want to escape the major O level exam, coming up in 2 years' time, trying to \"chope\" yourself a seat in an IP school for A level, so that you don't have to compete with rest of the Joint Admission O level graduate students, next time after O level results out ?

important qn is you must ask yourself honestly :
are you the independent, self-study type of student, whereby if the the subject Tr happen to give you very scanty hand-out lecture notes material, you are the type who can exercise initiative independently, research on your own in detail rest of the subject content, set yourself timeline goals & objective, to achieve what you're supposed to know, and to study?

bearing in mind that Secondary school have so many more subjects to tackle (beyond 4 subjects in primary school PSLE + 5th non-academic Cca), u need to be an independent self learner, can't be possibly taking tuition in every single Secondary school subjects, workload.
(you know yourself, best)

if one is the type that need a lot of hand-holding, guidance in subject content from individual subject Tr to spoonfeed, or prefer Tr inside the classroom to teach concepts, follow O level syllabus menu explain step by step clearly to the whole class, set assignment to \"push\" you to study, then is safer to remain back in your current, existing Sec 2 O level class. You target to do well at O level, use your good results to come back and apply for a good Junior college, sit for \"A\" level, or also can apply to a Polytechnic to pursue a good faculty Diploma course. The options are open for you.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671896https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671896Sun, 24 Apr 2016 02:53:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:02:21 GMT]]>

Ninjazz34:
Hi parents:) Ninjazz34 here!


I have intentions on transferring to a IP school this year for Sec 3 next year.I decided that I would apply to a few schools instead of just one so that I can try my luck.However,one of the IP schools I'm deciding to apply for doesn't have an entrance exam.Since its one of the top schools,for a neighbourhood school student,chances are deemed to be 0% as their criteria will be really strict and what's more,the whole curriculum will be different and such.

So I would like to clear the following doubts to reconsider my decision:

1.Is studying in an IP school hard as what people make it out to be?
2.What are the usual hours your child gets back from school?(excludes days that they have CCA)Do they have enough time to complete homework and projects?
3.Are they stressed out or depressed of the competitiveness in the school(if any)?

I hope that someone can help and answer these questions.Thank you!

I have 2 DDs. One just graduated from SCGS (Old batch so no IP) and currently at HCI. The other DD at IP RGS currently at year 4.
1) Studying in IP requires different approaches..i mean practically very different style of learning. Alot of self research, no much studying materials given to student, very JC/Uni style of learning, uses alot of internet and library material resources. I am glad i chose RGS for her and her ability to grow up as what she is capable of to be.

2. Both DD whether IP and non-IP goes home about same timing. Only thing is CCA commitment.

3. Both options can create stress. If you choose non-IP, in SCGS, they too have many frequent tests/assignments/projects. I see no different in the stress.

Ask your self do you prefer to research resource notes/materials for self style learning (in IP) or studying materials being dump onto you and goes for tests/exam (non-IP)?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671759https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671759Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:02:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:03:51 GMT]]>Quite a few factors to consider for your child.


If your child is cut for IP then is OK. Usually go to IP in Sec 3 is very tough for a child especially he/she has to leave her former school and classmates known for 2 years. Going to a new environment can be very scary for them. Getting to know new friends again, with projects coming out and most of them already have their click in their IP Sec one and twos. Sometimes, getting into the click is not easy too! Have to managed all the subjects and so on…

If your child is the easy going type or happy go lucky then I find it ok for he/she to adapt fast.

Some children not ready for IP especially projects.

These are the things we have to put ourselves in our child’s heart like can we take it ourselves first?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671714https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1671714Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:03:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 01:50:54 GMT]]>

sushigal:
Hi Ninjazz34


Can please share more how do you go about transferring your child out to IP school.
does MOE allow \"end of Sec 2 students\", to transfer from a Non-IP school, into another different IP school?

eg

do MOE allow students to inter-school Transfer, from SCGS Sec 2 (from GCE \"O\" level track) into RGS Sec (IP track), starting a new academic year in RGS Sec 3 (IP) ?

if originate within the same Sec school (SCGS Sec) :
intra-Transfer definitely allowed, if students do well at end of Sec 2.
eg
possible to transfer from O level track into IP track, at end of Sec 2
That is, if a student do well, at end of Sec 2 :
Yes, student can transfer from O level track into IP track, starting new academic year Sec 3 (IP) at SCGS Sec, direct access into the new Eunoia Junior College in Year 5 for GCE \"A\" level, bypassing O level major exam.


But inter-Transfer, across different Secondary schools, across different track ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1643960https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1643960Thu, 18 Feb 2016 01:50:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Thu, 07 Jan 2016 03:16:47 GMT]]>Hi Ninjazz34


Can please share more how do you go about transferring your child out to IP school.

I try to PM you direct unable to do so.

Maybe, you can PM me direct.

Thank you.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1624515https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1624515Thu, 07 Jan 2016 03:16:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:34:02 GMT]]>hi valyap,


thanks for the valuable information,i appreciate it:)
kudos to your dd for being so dedicated towards her cca,there’s only a minority of people in my school who are like her.
I guess being in IP,its all about effort,attitude and consistency to produce good results and "survive" hahah.
anyways thank you once again:D

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1467403https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1467403Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:34:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:01:46 GMT]]>it is all about self-discipline and self-learning. The IP school's teacher will not spoon-feed, only the concept. Be prepared to commit to CCA too, project timeline…. if the child is disciplined, do not waste time on social media, should be able to sleep before 11pm. UNLEss project work or whatever, then that is different story! DD and her friends were so involved in CCA , performing, leading , they were so self-motivated that beyond school hours (came home 10pm etc. even on weekend!) and on their own they practice & practice their dance routine till perfection just to be the winning team during the sports festival…. :rahrah: :boogie: That is the dedication, commitment and self-motivation……they did it on their own…. :rahrah: :imcool: That is on top of preparing for exams or assessments papers...

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1465948https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1465948Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:01:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:10:55 GMT]]>[quote]Different people have different experiences even in the same school, same class! My daughter is in Yr 4 of an IP school now, so I'll answer based on what I see.


1. It depends on ability and stress tolerance. Some find it OK, others don't. I think that quite a bit of independent learning is expected, and it can be hard if the student can't keep up with the teacher.

2. School dismisses around 2pm. On CCA days (twice a week), she doesn't get home till around 6pm. On early days, she can get home around 3-4pm. But there are frequent \"other stuff\" that happens, so it varies. My daughter has her busy times when a few assignment deadlines are set around the same time, but mostly she can keep things under control. She gets to bed by 10.30pm most nights, and has some free time during weekends, and sometimes even on weekdays. She is quite organised and is a fast worker, so that helps. And she doesn't have tuition, so that frees up more time too.

3. Stress from competition is largely self-induced. If a student has a fair idea what is reasonable for herself, and is satisfied with her best efforts, then there won't be too much stress. If the student has unrealistic expectations and wants to ace everything all the time, it can be stressful.

Hope that helps a bit.[/quote]hi slmkhoo,

thanks for the information:) i roughly get what this whole thing is about now.

your advice is definitely appreciated,thank you!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1462875https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1462875Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:10:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Transfer from Non-IP school to IP school on Sat, 07 Feb 2015 00:33:13 GMT]]>

Ninjazz34:
Hi parents:) Ninjazz34 here!


I have intentions on transferring to a IP school this year for Sec 3 next year.I decided that I would apply to a few schools instead of just one so that I can try my luck.However,one of the IP schools I'm deciding to apply for doesn't have an entrance exam.Since its one of the top schools,for a neighbourhood school student,chances are deemed to be 0% as their criteria will be really strict and what's more,the whole curriculum will be different and such.

So I would like to clear the following doubts to reconsider my decision:

1.Is studying in an IP school hard as what people make it out to be?
2.What are the usual hours your child gets back from school?(excludes days that they have CCA)Do they have enough time to complete homework and projects?
3.Are they stressed out or depressed of the competitiveness in the school(if any)?

I hope that someone can help and answer these questions.Thank you!
Different people have different experiences even in the same school, same class! My daughter is in Yr 4 of an IP school now, so I'll answer based on what I see.

1. It depends on ability and stress tolerance. Some find it OK, others don't. I think that quite a bit of independent learning is expected, and it can be hard if the student can't keep up with the teacher.

2. School dismisses around 2pm. On CCA days (twice a week), she doesn't get home till around 6pm. On early days, she can get home around 3-4pm. But there are frequent \"other stuff\" that happens, so it varies. My daughter has her busy times when a few assignment deadlines are set around the same time, but mostly she can keep things under control. She gets to bed by 10.30pm most nights, and has some free time during weekends, and sometimes even on weekdays. She is quite organised and is a fast worker, so that helps. And she doesn't have tuition, so that frees up more time too.

3. Stress from competition is largely self-induced. If a student has a fair idea what is reasonable for herself, and is satisfied with her best efforts, then there won't be too much stress. If the student has unrealistic expectations and wants to ace everything all the time, it can be stressful.

Hope that helps a bit.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1461827https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1461827Sat, 07 Feb 2015 00:33:13 GMT