Asperger? Hyperactive?
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[quote]Most children with Asperger have strengths in logical subjects such as science and math[/quote]
Besides math and science, some are good in drawings and music. Not sure if there are others to add on. -
My son lack of the skill to control his emotions. He likes to whine & scream if someone snatch his toy or he cannot do things right. He reacts by biting & pushing. Lack of empathy towards others. He is rigid so I’m learning how to introduce flexibility to him.
In terms of motor skills & speech, he is ok. That’s why the psychologist recommends social skills training & read social story book.
Besides social skills training, what else can we do to help him? -
baong:
hi baong
Hi pingsped,
many thanks for providing all these tips for helping kids with ASD.
I would like to check if you have any tips to help ASD kids for composition writing. From your experience, do kids with ASD have difiiculties writing compositions? From the readings in this topic here do suggest that ASD kids would prefer factual reads than fictional reads as they can comprehend the former more. So will this hinder ASD kids writing creatively? MTIA
baong
in this thread, I am usu referring to children with Asperger syndrome as I find that there is \"more homogeneity\" in this subgrp.
Children with AS can write reasonably well (compared to children with ASD) but may write out of point. They can remember details in simple stories fairly well & even copy the right answers in lower pri texts but can't truly understand some nuances. Getting them to write a \"beginning-middle-end\" type of story is not difficult.
Children with ASD are harder to characterise as a group as there is a lot of variability.
I hardly teach creative writing skills because the focus of therapy is usu on lg use, comprehension & social skills. When we do writing, we work on retelling and sequencing events pertaining to their lives. or we work on social stories. Most parents opt for regular tuition when their children have functional use of lg.
I'll say you can't go too wrong with cookie-cutter type of stories.
eg beginning - write 2-3 sentences about place & people
middle - write 5 sentences abt a strange, bad or good event/happening
end - write 3-5 sentences about what people did
This is what I'll teach to children with learning disabilities (LD). -
Hi pingsped,
thanks for your reply. What I meant is children with AS, not ASD :oops: for my earlier question. Paiseh, paiseh. -
Hi Sheryl
I'm not sure too. I hope some parents with similar situation is able to advise you better on this.
Hi pingsped
Would you be able to share the difference between AS and ASD? I thought both are short form for Asperger :oops:
I found this website which helps me to understand my child better. I hope parents facing the same predicament will find this useful.
http://www.yourlittleprofessor.com/diagnosing.html -
EN:
Hi En
Hi pingsped
Would you be able to share the difference between AS and ASD? I thought both are short form for Asperger :oops:
I found this website which helps me to understand my child better. I hope parents facing the same predicament will find this useful.
http://www.yourlittleprofessor.com/diagnosing.html
Unfortunately, I'm also no expert in autism. I graduated from NUS in late 1990s & was trained at a pte ctr. I took up a MA in Communication Studies from Macquarie University, Aus, in 2002 (?) but did not complete the course as I had to accompany my husband who was based overseas then.
My area of study was in language and communication profiles of children with different disabilities. The AS diagnosis was only formalised in 1994, I think.
So most professionals or therapists who graduated before 2005 may be taught or trained differently as guidelines have yet to be established.
There is no compulsory edn (CE) in Spore.
high-functioning autism vs asperger syndrome
- I will usu advise parents not to dwell on it as it is more productive to work on social skills deficit.
- as a therapist, I shld know more as it does help in planing IEP & in honing one's clinical skills.
- however, some kids are hard to categorise so a definitive diagnosis may not be possible. eg diagnosing a child from a chinese-speaking home or low-income family. he will not have classic AS symptoms as his home environment may not encourage/stimulate cognitive & literacy development
I read Saturday's report on adults with ASD. I find that AS label is used loosely. In the movie, Rain Man, Dustin Hoffman, portrayed a person with ASD and savant abilities. The person on whom his character is loosely based, probably has AS. However, AS behv is not evident in the movie.
(some people use PDD or ASD as an umbrella term)
AS or not, self-regulation is the key to normalisation.
Treatment protocol for children is somewhat similar - work on improving function so that one becomes \"high-functioning\" and able to self-regulate. Vigilance is required as ASD is a life-long condition. Regression to the extent of mental breakdown in adulthood is possible. It's preferable to be KS all the way as an adult with AS may find it difficult to cope with spouse and children. -
Hi pingsped
I re-read again what you have written in the past and takes me awhile to digest. Thanks for sharing.
To other parents with questions on asperger, I find the wiki having the most comprehensive explanation & 90% of what has been written can be observed in ds with the exception of motor skill. Here's the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
I have extracted the therapies from wiki that are open for a child diagnose with aspergers. Parents and family members can play an active role at home helping the child to integrate with society.
\"Therapies
The ideal treatment for AS coordinates therapies that address core symptoms of the disorder, including poor communication skills and obsessive or repetitive routines. While most professionals agree that the earlier the intervention, the better, there is no single best treatment package.[7] AS treatment resembles that of other high-functioning ASDs, except that it takes into account the linguistic capabilities, verbal strengths, and nonverbal vulnerabilities of individuals with AS.[1] A typical program generally includes:[7]
the training of social skills for more effective interpersonal interactions,[71]
cognitive behavioral therapy to improve stress management relating to anxiety or explosive emotions,[72] and to cut back on obsessive interests and repetitive routines,
medication, for coexisting conditions such as major depressive disorder and anxiety disorder,[73]
occupational or physical therapy to assist with poor sensory integration and motor coordination,
social communication intervention, which is specialized speech therapy to help with the pragmatics of the give and take of normal conversation,[74]
the training and support of parents, particularly in behavioral techniques to use in the home.
Of the many studies on behavior-based early intervention programs, most are case studies of up to five participants, and typically examine a few problem behaviors such as self-injury, aggression, noncompliance, stereotypies, or spontaneous language; unintended side effects are largely ignored.[75] Despite the popularity of social skills training, its effectiveness is not firmly established.[76] A randomized controlled study of a model for training parents in problem behaviors in their children with AS showed that parents attending a one-day workshop or six individual lessons reported fewer behavioral problems, while parents receiving the individual lessons reported less intense behavioral problems in their AS children.[77] Vocational training is important to teach job interview etiquette and workplace behavior to older children and adults with AS, and organization software and personal data assistants to improve the work and life management of people with AS are useful.[1]\" -
Hi En
No worries.
Let me see if I can recall some protocols offhand cos currently, my ctr only takes in children with ASD aged below 4.5 yo and AS aged below 7 yo. It's been a long while.
In my practice, children with ASD and AS undergo different social skills training as the latter grp is able to process lg better. Eg Only some children with HFA can access the following curriculum.
http://www.linguisystems.com/toc_samples/1174.pdf
There are some pre-requisites before a child with AS can access at least part of \"higher order\" social skills.
I don't usu use social stories as I find them simplistic/impractical for explaining social contexts of children aged above 7 yo.
I tend not to use ABA for kids with AS and mid-functioning ASD. It may be used to regulate behv, esp anxiety. Structured teaching generally creates rigidity and limitations which create problems (IMHO) in dealing with ambiguous social contexts in later childhood yrs.
I'm not fully aware of potential issues in adolescence and adulthood as I only see children up to 12 years old & I do not specialise in ASD. I think it will be good if you can speak to adult aspies to prepare your child fully.
Of course, one has to exercise common sense when teaching social skills.
Politically-correct advice can be impractical at times. -
Hi pingsped
Thanks for the samples. That will give me ideas on what to work on. I have been avoiding socialing with other families that have children of the same age of mine mainly because of my daughter (suspected PDD-NOS).
My son shows a classic behaviour of asperger which I have actually share in this forum for the past 1 year. Of course, I did not know the meaning of asperger then. Happily share jokes in \"Kids says the darnest thing\" thread and the locked gifted thread. Verbally he has no issues, just the need of him to share his knowledge on and on without noticing that his listener is not interested. He has no qualms in approaching adults and gives two cents worth of his thoughts. Often I have to go to school to apologize to teachers/school office staff to explain. He is still doing it now which I am trying to correct it.
I read in the wiki that aspergers are likely to be hereditary or combination of both parents genes that carry similar traits (unlike ASD). So for whatever shortcoming that both dh and myself have and I think ds will likely to grow like us if not corrected, are those that I will be tackling.
Just want to share what happen at home yesterday. We'll be going for a trip this Saturday. So, the whole family was busy planning (dh, dd, ds) except me as I'm preoccupied with work. DH was sitting opposite me and I saw he started rocking to and fro. He might have done it before but I might not have notice it. I told him to stop and asked him why was he rocking himself like that? He told me he did it to soothe himself as he is feeling too much stress in planning for the trip. DS happily told me he did it too in school because he was bored. The teacher noticed it and asked him to stop. There are more examples but suffice to say that , I will be exercising common sense when helping ds in his social skills.
Would not want him to scare off his potential girlfriend blabbing one-sided stories about his topic of interest for hours. I've had it and even I as a mother cannot take it.
There's the anxiety, anger and his sensitives that I have to handle too. I know how to tackle anxiety and anger. But at lost on how to get ds to control his emotion (the crying part). -
Hi En mummy
I'm new in KS forum. So I'm still not sure how things work here. I don't usu join forums to chit chat. I'm looking for some info abt how to raise a kid in SG cos I only have experience with special needs kids. LOL didn't want to make any mistake w my 14 mth toddler.
How old is your girl? If she's still a preschooler & with careful planning, it's possible to reach most 5-6 yr-old milestones before she turns 8. She may just make it to regular primary school.
Once a child is verbal, I usu focus mainly on social skills & classroom behv so that he is able to socialise & learn in a regular classroom setting. Otherwise, most kids with ASD just remain isolated.
Try to find families who are supportive and understanding. It's very impt to for your girl to have playmates of same developmental age.
I bring my baby to work once per week. She has a special needs playmate aged 3+ yo last week. He has mild ASD and is non-verbal. My girl is always butting into his affairs. haha... They enjoy dancing together now. DH doesn't know & prob won't like the idea.
I feel that siblings of children with ASD are not adversely affected if parents manage well. I would certainly like my girl to appreciate all of God's creations.
That ref is useful for children aged p3 and above.
Teaching social skills to a child who is not genuinely interested in people - I feel that one will hit the wall somewhere. It's like teaching chinese to a chinese-hater; nothing much goes in & he only uses that knowledge to pass exams & then zilch.
I alway start with having fun or meaningful interactions. I intro the soft skills (app social skills) when the child finds himself in need of some help.EN:
Haha, don't worry. My DH has lots of weird traits too. Sometimes I feel he has a learning disability. Then again, I think I have some ADD traits.Hi pingsped
DH was sitting opposite me and I saw he started rocking to and fro. He might have done it before but I might not have notice it. I told him to stop and asked him why was he rocking himself like that? There are more examples but suffice to say that , I will be exercising common sense when helping ds in his social skills.
Sometimes I worry how my baby will turn out :idea:EN:
Your boy's verbal gaffes sound interesting. (sorry, I was born with a unusu sense of humour). When I think abt parents with AS (like some of my clients), I can only hold my tongue as they usu think there's nothing wrong with them. But it is difficult to achieve \"normalisation\" for them.Would not want him to scare off his potential girlfriend blabbing one-sided stories about his topic of interest for hours. I've had it and even I as a mother cannot take it.
There's the anxiety, anger and his sensitives that I have to handle too. I know how to tackle anxiety and anger. But at lost on how to get ds to control his emotion (the crying part).
Well, if he didn't get upset at onset of incident/event, he probably wouldn't cry. You can try to read up on CBT.
Have a good holiday!
cheers,
Ping
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