<![CDATA[Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher!]]>

baymax33:
randwick:

Find out what happened. Understand further the situation behind the comment and turn the negative point into constructive action.


Tell your child to PROVE THE TEACHER WRONG!

YES! 😄 :udaman:

Should be :udawoman: lah 🆒

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/85399/negative-comment-on-p6-child-from-school-teacherRSS for NodeSat, 09 May 2026 10:51:34 GMTSat, 19 Mar 2016 07:57:15 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Sat, 19 Mar 2016 07:44:55 GMT]]>Teachers said important points not picked up!SAD LIFE

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randwick:
Find out what happened. Understand further the situation behind the comment and turn the negative point into constructive action.


Tell your child to PROVE THE TEACHER WRONG!
YES! 😄 :udaman:

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slmkhoo:
StillThinking:


But many secondary schools also have internship programs.

To be frank, internship in sec school doesn't count for much. The students are too young to really do much or learn much. It's more the focus of the courses (more academic vs more problem-solving) that makes the difference.

There's no comparison between a sec school internship program vs a polytechnic program.
The former is just kid's play.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639430https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639430Fri, 05 Feb 2016 21:31:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Fri, 05 Feb 2016 11:22:56 GMT]]>

StillThinking:
janet88:

[quote=\"slmkhoo\"]And same issue between poly grad and A level holder. Poly grads are in much higher demand!


poly grads are more hands on given that their course is practical and with internship. hubby said during Uni, classmates from poly tend to be more hands on with projects as they have experience.

But many secondary schools also have internship programs.[/quote]To be frank, internship in sec school doesn't count for much. The students are too young to really do much or learn much. It's more the focus of the courses (more academic vs more problem-solving) that makes the difference.

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janet88:
slmkhoo:

And same issue between poly grad and A level holder. Poly grads are in much higher demand!


poly grads are more hands on given that their course is practical and with internship. hubby said during Uni, classmates from poly tend to be more hands on with projects as they have experience.

But many secondary schools also have internship programs.

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slmkhoo:
And same issue between poly grad and A level holder. Poly grads are in much higher demand!

poly grads are more hands on given that their course is practical and with internship. hubby said during Uni, classmates from poly tend to be more hands on with projects as they have experience.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639086https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639086Fri, 05 Feb 2016 01:30:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Fri, 05 Feb 2016 01:26:32 GMT]]>

CatMoon:
Hmmm, I just think the journey via the ITE/poly/uni route is far too long for many students. That's like another 6 years before uni? Hope some don't drop out on the way.


I was told at the parents talk recently that only top 20% of poly graduates make it to local uni. Is it true?

Btw, the N-level student would have already completed 80% of the syllabus. My dd's tutors have been getting her to try out the O-level practice papers and she's finding them ok. She's getting used to the depth (answers) required. So I'm encouraging her to try her best!
From O to ITE (2 years higher NITEC) to Poly (3 years programme) to University vs
From O to JC (2 years programme) to University.
The difference is only 3 years, not 6 years. That's not taking account into subject exemptions that higher NITEC students enjoy in poly, and poly students enjoy in university.

6 years will be for N to ITE to Higher NITEC to Poly to University. But if you have to go via this route, I would assume JC would not be suitable / available at all.

20% of poly students making it directly into university is most probably based on http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/record-15000-to-enter-local-varsities-this-year. That said, I would believe that the number of poly grads in university is probably higher. 20% is only for local university. It does not take into account those who can't qualify because our local universities doesn't offer the equivalent course for their diploma, those who decide to join the workforce first and enter university as Matured Students (different qualifying criteria), those who prefer to pursue overseas studies because overseas universities allow a year's exemption for our polytechnic students (which the local university doesn't provide).

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639082https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1639082Fri, 05 Feb 2016 01:26:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 06:17:42 GMT]]>Hmmm, I just think the journey via the ITE/poly/uni route is far too long for many students. That’s like another 6 years before uni? Hope some don’t drop out on the way.


I was told at the parents talk recently that only top 20% of poly graduates make it to local uni. Is it true?

Btw, the N-level student would have already completed 80% of the syllabus. My dd’s tutors have been getting her to try out the O-level practice papers and she’s finding them ok. She’s getting used to the depth (answers) required. So I’m encouraging her to try her best!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638695https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638695Thu, 04 Feb 2016 06:17:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:39:18 GMT]]>As an employer, I do prefer to hire poly grads over uni grads because I find them a lot more hungry and hardworking than some of the uni grads I had the misfortune to hire. It is what they can do for me that counts, and not what they did for themselves in school years ago when they were young.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638671https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638671Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:39:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:36:40 GMT]]>And same issue between poly grad and A level holder. Poly grads are in much higher demand!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638669https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638669Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:36:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:34:15 GMT]]>Methinks an ITE graduate has better chance of finding a decent paying job than a half-past-six O-level holder. No? Because really, what can an O-level holder do nowadays?


By the way, have you seen what an ITE campus is like? :drool:

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Nebbermind:
Well, I guess it depends on the kind of grades these kids are getting. If they are the C grades ones, and rather unlikely to improve on it in O level, then they will be in the range of 25 to 30 (poly uses best 5 subjects?)...not many course to choose from....ya?

The teacher might just be trying to paint a realistic picture for the students. If they are struggling at N levels, then O levels with more subjects of a higher std (which in the past, Express, SAP and GEP students also needed to work very hard for), then it's advisable to take a detour to move up the ladder.

The teacher also mentioned A Levels. A Levels is a high stakes national exam that even IP students are having a tough time aceing 4 heavy subjects. N level students only have 1 academic year to get accustomed to the content-heavy O levels syllabus, and if they clear O Levels and qualify for a lower-tier JC or pre-u institute, they must possess the calibre to go through another 1.5 gruelling years to prepare for A levels.

Teacher must be making those comments based on her professional assessment of her students. Catmoon used the word \"encouraged\", so that tells you the teacher wasn't mocking them but trying to help them get to Rome in the best way.

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Nebbermind:
CatMoon:

[quote=\"jetsetter\"]
She discouraged them from taking the O Levels route to enter poly. She encouraged them to proceed to ITE to attain Higher NITEC or NITEC, then apply for poly...methinks.

I got a feeling that the school doesn't want them to return and \"spoil\" the O-level results.

Does \"poorer\" results affect the funding the school receives from MOE?
Like those \"value-add\" and other determinants.

If it does, then it'll be one of my consideration during the next GE[/quote]Why not put it this way, there's extra funding given by Ah Gong to ITE to generate a pool of rank-&-file tech people, so schools are promoting ITEs to NA/NT students?

Do you know there's a big talent gap at the rank-&-file level in the job market after the FT quotas were implemented, thanks to SC's xenophobia and social media sites' fanning of such sentiments before the last GE. The mega campuses aren't there for show for sure. It's to groom and nurture many local NITEC/HNITEC grads to fill this gap in sectors like F&B, retail, hospitality, and a few others that I cannot remember.

But if they did well, there's always an upward progression avail to them at the end of the path -> poly. And if they continue to do extremely well in poly, i.e. topping their cohort, they can apply for local unis.

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CatMoon:
jetsetter:


She discouraged them from taking the O Levels route to enter poly. She encouraged them to proceed to ITE to attain Higher NITEC or NITEC, then apply for poly...methinks.

I got a feeling that the school doesn't want them to return and \"spoil\" the O-level results.

Does \"poorer\" results affect the funding the school receives from MOE?
Like those \"value-add\" and other determinants.

If it does, then it'll be one of my consideration during the next GE

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638638https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638638Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:50:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:48:47 GMT]]>

jetsetter:

She discouraged them from taking the O Levels route to enter poly. She encouraged them to proceed to ITE to attain Higher NITEC or NITEC, then apply for poly...methinks.
I got a feeling that the school doesn't want them to return and \"spoil\" the O-level results.

Does \"poorer\" results affect the funding the school receives from MOE?
Like those \"value-add\" and other determinants.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638636https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638636Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:48:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:42:25 GMT]]>The original post said that the teacher commented on the student’s attitude an behaviour, not grades. I would regard that as a wake-up call to the student. Grades - I think we need to give teachers credit for their experience (I know there are nasty ones, but hopefully they are exceptions). If a teacher honestly gives her opinion that the child is not able, I would take it seriously. The parents may not agree, but the teacher is entitled to an opinion too.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638634https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638634Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:42:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:34:20 GMT]]>Well, I guess it depends on the kind of grades these kids are getting. If they are the C grades ones, and rather unlikely to improve on it in O level, then they will be in the range of 25 to 30 (poly uses best 5 subjects?)…not many course to choose from…ya?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638630https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638630Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:34:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:26:45 GMT]]>

Nebbermind:
Thought they still need O level to apply for poly...no?

She discouraged them from taking the O Levels route to enter poly. She encouraged them to proceed to ITE to attain Higher NITEC or NITEC, then apply for poly...methinks.
CatMoon:
Last 2 years, it was so difficult to motivate and encourage my dd to study hard for the N-levels - when the teachers repeatedly encouraged the class to move to ITE/poly and discouraged them from taking the O-levels, saying that if they took the O-levels, they will not do well.... If they did well and got into a JC, they will not do well in the 1st year..... And if they got into JC2, they might not do well in the A-levels.....

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638621https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638621Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:26:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:09:45 GMT]]>Thought they still need O level to apply for poly…no?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638613https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638613Thu, 04 Feb 2016 04:09:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 03:48:26 GMT]]>hi CatMoon,

why are the teachers so demoralizing? shouldn’t they be more encouraging? NA is not a dead end. some kids are slower and besides, every child is different.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638606https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638606Thu, 04 Feb 2016 03:48:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 03:43:43 GMT]]>

janet88:
hi CatMoon,


it was rather mean of your daughter's teacher to discourage them from taking O levels. what gave him/her the impression that they will not do well? i feel so sad for your daughter's classmates who were so badly affected by the insensitive teacher's comments.

some teachers have the impression that choice of secondary schools might be RI, catholic high, RGS, nan hua...for example.
but hey, that may not be what some parents have in mind. so this kind of comment is honestly very hard to stomach. only the parents will know what calibre their kids are.
The sad thing is neither the girls nor the teachers were referring to top-tier schools/jcs. It's a case of just \"trying to make it anywhere\".

Here, some parents trying to keep their kids in schools, there the teachers are pushing them out.

Sometimes so depressing, so tired of fighting against the system.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638604https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638604Thu, 04 Feb 2016 03:43:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 02:48:31 GMT]]>Generally, when someone tells me: "with your attitude… you will never be able to …", I don’t take it as an insult, but rather advice. It is a wake-up call, a reminder that it will take much more than what I think to achieve my goals.


It is different from them saying: "You are stupid. You will never make it." That’s pretty final. Attitudes can be changed. Stupidity can’t be.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638572https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1638572Thu, 04 Feb 2016 02:48:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Negative comment on P6 child from school teacher! on Thu, 04 Feb 2016 02:08:15 GMT]]>hi CatMoon,


it was rather mean of your daughter’s teacher to discourage them from taking O levels. what gave him/her the impression that they will not do well? i feel so sad for your daughter’s classmates who were so badly affected by the insensitive teacher’s comments.

some teachers have the impression that choice of secondary schools might be RI, catholic high, RGS, nan hua…for example.
but hey, that may not be what some parents have in mind. so this kind of comment is honestly very hard to stomach. only the parents will know what calibre their kids are.

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