New ERP system from 2020

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Fri, 04 Mar 2016 01:30:17 GMT

limlim — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 01:30:17 GMT

isetan:
Ksp, agreed. That's the only advantage I see in this system, including the speed you are travelling at the point of accident. Can't tell a lie as you are tracked technologically.

doubt the device is supposed to function as a blackbox..

altho technically it could be designed to do so.. Ah... a good justification to charge drivers for the device.. :evil:

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:16:31 GMT

isetan — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:16:31 GMT

Ksp, agreed. That’s the only advantage I see in this system, including the speed you are travelling at the point of accident. Can’t tell a lie as you are tracked technologically.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Thu, 03 Mar 2016 08:00:54 GMT

KSP — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 08:00:54 GMT

pirated:
KSP:
after ERP 2.0 from 2020, the traffic condition will be back to before ERP 1.0..... coz the charges will be based on usage not where the vehicles go..... well, its going to be back to square one.... who would want to use normal road if can use expressway with same charges ? :slapshead: and no matter what the drivers will have to pay more eventually :moneyflies:

They probable already done the matrix of which 50m of which road at which hour / minute will be priced how much, loaded into their program liao. And probably bus lane infringement also load into the system for auto tracking. Understand the satellite can tell you in clarity your car number plate and on which lane you are on. Try running the red light.

with the kind of accuracy u described, there should be no argument in the event of accident....

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:53:36 GMT

limlim — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:53:36 GMT

Sun_2010:

Technically, it is the car that wont have any privacy ...
Ok I :spank: myself

Actually.. you are absolutely correct.... :evil:

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:32:16 GMT

Sun_2010 — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:32:16 GMT

isetan:
pirated:
And your cash card in the IU tells a lot about you

Cash card belongs to you so it's your properties. IU -- only when u enters into carpark with erp system then your IU will be tracked. And if you go to a venue where carpark coupon is used, you won't be tracked.

So there will still be some privacy.

Technically, it is the car that wont have any privacy ...
Ok I :spank: myself

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:10:50 GMT

isetan — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:10:50 GMT

pirated:
And your cash card in the IU tells a lot about you

Cash card belongs to you so it's your properties. IU -- only when u enters into carpark with erp system then your IU will be tracked. And if you go to a venue where carpark coupon is used, you won't be tracked.

So there will still be some privacy.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:21:35 GMT

pirated — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:21:35 GMT

KSP:
after ERP 2.0 from 2020, the traffic condition will be back to before ERP 1.0..... coz the charges will be based on usage not where the vehicles go..... well, its going to be back to square one.... who would want to use normal road if can use expressway with same charges ? :slapshead: and no matter what the drivers will have to pay more eventually :moneyflies:

They probable already done the matrix of which 50m of which road at which hour / minute will be priced how much, loaded into their program liao. And probably bus lane infringement also load into the system for auto tracking. Understand the satellite can tell you in clarity your car number plate and on which lane you are on. Try running the red light.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:17:10 GMT

pirated — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:17:10 GMT

And your cash card in the IU tells a lot about you

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:56:46 GMT

limlim — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:56:46 GMT

Now commuters using ezlink also can be tracked mah…

just need to get used to it…

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:02:04 GMT

isetan — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:02:04 GMT

Yes Jetsetter. There is good and bad points abt having such system. Isn’t that 1st in the world to have that? But I still don’t feel good abt being tracked.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:18:09 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:18:09 GMT

pirated:
jetsetter:
[quote=\"hquek\"]The way we post updates on social media, use google maps from our phone...I doubt there is very much privacy left.

That's why I don't geo-tag my photos or use digital cams' GPS function.

Once, I \"checked in\" McDonald's East Coast Park with some burger photos, and lo & behold, I got a phone call minutes later from my guy friend. He was just round the corner at a bike shop! So scary...

Stalking

You sure your phone has not been preloaded with tracking app?[/quote]it's just FB status update.

It happened to me in Korea once too. I hash-tagged #myeongdong then my gf WA me to say she's there too...freaky

Anyway OT...it's not related to satellite tracking...

I think it's good for the police/ counter terrorist unit, as they can call out the records and track down alleged terrorists, kidnappers and fugitives, like where the Kovan murderer ditched the car The courts can subpoena the data to prove someone had driven to the crime scene, if theres no alibi.

Just dun call out the data to prove your employees had been gallivanting during office hour la!

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:06:14 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:06:14 GMT

pirate:
KSP:
after ERP 2.0 from 2020, the traffic condition will be back to before ERP 1.0..... coz the charges will be based on usage not where the vehicles go..... well, its going to be back to square one.... who would want to use normal road if can use expressway with same charges ? :slapshead: and no matter what the drivers will have to pay more eventually :moneyflies:

I suspect different roads will have different charges. Also different times different charges.

Of course expressway charges will be higher

Same already happening to EXPRESS buses and Premium pte buses that take Expressways.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:03:41 GMT

pirate — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:03:41 GMT

KSP:
after ERP 2.0 from 2020, the traffic condition will be back to before ERP 1.0..... coz the charges will be based on usage not where the vehicles go..... well, its going to be back to square one.... who would want to use normal road if can use expressway with same charges ? :slapshead: and no matter what the drivers will have to pay more eventually :moneyflies:

I suspect different roads will have different charges. Also different times different charges.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 06:06:00 GMT

KSP — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 06:06:00 GMT

after ERP 2.0 from 2020, the traffic condition will be back to before ERP 1.0..... coz the charges will be based on usage not where the vehicles go..... well, its going to be back to square one.... who would want to use normal road if can use expressway with same charges ? :slapshead: and no matter what the drivers will have to pay more eventually :moneyflies:

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 03:35:54 GMT

pirated — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 03:35:54 GMT

jetsetter:
hquek:
The way we post updates on social media, use google maps from our phone...I doubt there is very much privacy left.

That's why I don't geo-tag my photos or use digital cams' GPS function.

Once, I \"checked in\" McDonald's East Coast Park with some burger photos, and lo & behold, I got a phone call minutes later from my guy friend. He was just round the corner at a bike shop! So scary...

Stalking

You sure your phone has not been preloaded with tracking app?

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:55:42 GMT

limlim — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:55:42 GMT

jetsetter:
limlim:

Did it occurred to you that if there are less cars on the road, the buses will be more reliable?

Only the very rich will drive. The rest all take public transport.... :evil:

Lower income people also drive, but they drive vans or pickups to fetch their kids. Taxi drivers will use their own vehicles to do that.

so delivery drivers and taxi drivers will be \"promoted\" to be 1 of the desirable careers options for those who die die muz drive.. :evil: They should be proud of their occupation..

And only Singaporeans can be taxi drivers.. no foreign competition.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:51:59 GMT

limlim — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:51:59 GMT

pirated:
limlim:

Only the very rich will drive. The rest all take public transport.... :evil:
Taxi drivers not rich

Delivery drivers not rich

so if not rich but want to drive, can consider these routes.... :evil:

pirated:
Parents fetching kids and old people to medic appt, etc are not rich

take taxi lor.

taxi is more efficient use of vehicles, like delivery vans. they are usually on the road moving goods or pple, and not parked somewhere wasting precious land majority of the time.

many poor pple fetching kids and old pple too.. and they don't drive. So it's not an excuse.

if really really got some \"specials needs\", ask for social assistance on case by case basis lor.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:47:01 GMT

limlim — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 02:47:01 GMT

sleepy:
limlim:

Did it occurred to you that if there are less cars on the road, the buses will be more reliable?
Erh... don't think there are so many cars to cause jam to delay shuttle buses that service neighbourhood routes only. The road is mostly clear.

Well, in some neighborhood, sometimes the road is so packed that between 2 traffic lights along the same road it's filled with cars.

pedestrians simply cross the road even when the red man is on bcoz all the cars are stationary.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:54:37 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:54:37 GMT

hquek:
The way we post updates on social media, use google maps from our phone...I doubt there is very much privacy left.

That's why I don't geo-tag my photos or use digital cams' GPS function.

Once, I \"checked in\" McDonald's East Coast Park with some burger photos, and lo & behold, I got a phone call minutes later from my guy friend. He was just round the corner at a bike shop! So scary...

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:52:00 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:52:00 GMT

atrecord:
jetsetter:
[quote=\"isetan\"]There s Also no privacy. Everywhere u go is monitored.

that's what i said too last week (Point 2). But Chris Tan in his Sat article wrote we are already tracked via our mobile phones, so what the heck...

How are all phones tracked? Need to have GPS switched on? Or just by switching on the phones will mean tracking starts?

What will happen if all the data of who is going where at what time, is hacked into and stolen? Sure got people develop cold feet [/quote]Probably signals coming out from your phones...that's how they tried to track those MH370 missing victims or earthquake victims right? You read in the papers sometimes that the authorities detected HP signals from underground, etc...

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:48:17 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:48:17 GMT

limlim:

Did it occurred to you that if there are less cars on the road, the buses will be more reliable?

Only the very rich will drive. The rest all take public transport.... :evil:

Lower income people also drive, but they drive vans or pickups to fetch their kids. Taxi drivers will use their own vehicles to do that.

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:39:39 GMT

Nebbermind — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:39:39 GMT

pirated:
limlim:

Only the very rich will drive. The rest all take public transport.... :evil:
Taxi drivers not rich

Delivery drivers not rich

Parents fetching kids and old people to medic appt, etc are not rich

Only pirate, past, present & future, are rich!!

Reply to New ERP system from 2020 on Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:33:20 GMT

pirated — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:33:20 GMT

limlim:

Only the very rich will drive. The rest all take public transport.... :evil:

Taxi drivers not rich

Delivery drivers not rich

Parents fetching kids and old people to medic appt, etc are not rich