Way to GEP for a Normal Kid

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 07:25:41 GMT

jpe — Fri, 26 Aug 2016 07:25:41 GMT

sembgal:
GEP English screening test was easy but GEP Math screening test was very difficult to my child. First time she is telling me that Math is difficult! I think it must really be difficult! She did not attend any prep class at all.

good luck. hope today's haze won't affect your DD.

1st round is normal test. whoever can get high score in school would likely pass it.
2nd round is gep test. it is a real tough test.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 07:22:01 GMT

jpe — Fri, 26 Aug 2016 07:22:01 GMT

darwinkoh:
jpe:
revised again at http://www.studyhan.com/%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%99%AE%E9%80%9A%E5%AD%A9%E5%AD%90%E7%9A%84gep%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF/.

added the consideration of language and IQ.
Maybe you will witness a sudden surge in visitors to your website considering that today is the Screening Exercise for the current batch.;)

hehe. I posted it there 4 months already, just happened to make a minor revision today.
it is too late to read the article now. can't 临时抱佛脚 during the exam day.
hope the article can help the parents who have kids are pursuing GEP in future.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:15:08 GMT

sembgal — Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:15:08 GMT

GEP English screening test was easy but GEP Math screening test was very difficult to my child. First time she is telling me that Math is difficult! I think it must really be difficult! She did not attend any prep class at all.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 05:41:02 GMT

darwinkoh — Fri, 26 Aug 2016 05:41:02 GMT

jpe:
revised again at http://www.studyhan.com/%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%99%AE%E9%80%9A%E5%AD%A9%E5%AD%90%E7%9A%84gep%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF/.

added the consideration of language and IQ.

Maybe you will witness a sudden surge in visitors to your website considering that today is the Screening Exercise for the current batch.;)

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 03:00:33 GMT

jpe — Fri, 26 Aug 2016 03:00:33 GMT

revised again at http://www.studyhan.com/%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%99%AE%E9%80%9A%E5%AD%A9%E5%AD%90%E7%9A%84gep%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF/.

added the consideration of language and IQ.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:54:05 GMT

jpe — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:54:05 GMT

jetsetter:
OT

Not sure where to post this viral video, but thought jpe might enjoy this speech: :evil:

From rural China to Harvard Commencement...A video showing a Chinese student giving a graduation speech at Harvard University has gone viral on China's social media. He Jiang is the first graduate from the Chinese mainland to ever speak at the ceremony. He comes from a poor family in a village in central China's Hunan Province. Our correspondents have visited his home and talked to his parents.

yah. it is typical experience of people from China. people don't simply judge others based on how much money they have, and what is the background of the family. There are huge number of gems undiscovered.
BTW, A lots of famous people came out from HuNan Province, e.g. Chairman Mao.

from another perspective, I am more impressed and agree with this.
http://www.studyhan.com/%E6%88%90%E9%95%BF%E5%9E%8B%E6%80%9D%E7%BB%B4%E5%9C%A8%E5%AD%A9%E5%AD%90%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E9%87%8C%E7%9A%84%E9%87%8D%E8%A6%81%E6%80%A7/.
It is in Chinese. talk about idea from Ph.D Carol Dweck. a few TED video included.

One of video is interesting. it ask: Do you agree \"You can learn new things, but you can't really change your basic intelligence.\".
I don't strongly disagree with them, but I disagree with it. I believe intelligence can be improved, but it is a little bit only, we should keep developing it. Or how a monkey could evolve into me after thousands years? I have to continue this evolution.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e4smtpKcuI][/youtube]

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:07:43 GMT

jetsetter — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:07:43 GMT

OT

Not sure where to post this viral video, but thought jpe might enjoy this speech: :evil:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2HMoK5aIU][/youtube]

From rural China to Harvard Commencement...A video showing a Chinese student giving a graduation speech at Harvard University has gone viral on China's social media. He Jiang is the first graduate from the Chinese mainland to ever speak at the ceremony. He comes from a poor family in a village in central China's Hunan Province. Our correspondents have visited his home and talked to his parents.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddwzz7yJisA][/youtube]

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Tue, 31 May 2016 06:28:50 GMT

jpe — Tue, 31 May 2016 06:28:50 GMT

latest revision is http://www.studyhan.com/%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%99%AE%E9%80%9A%E5%AD%A9%E5%AD%90%E7%9A%84gep%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF/.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Wed, 11 May 2016 09:14:01 GMT

Gxmas — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:14:01 GMT

sushi88:

When the DSA rules changed last year with immediate effect of removal of GEP domain and the GEP kids to do domain tests in one school...

Hi sushi88, I am just curious and for my info...which school are you referring to? Thanks.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Wed, 04 May 2016 13:10:48 GMT

jpe — Wed, 04 May 2016 13:10:48 GMT

iRabbit:

Does the famous Beijing sch 中关村一小 also thru-train to a normal sec sch? Can't be right? How does this sch select children for P1 enrollment?

中关村一小对口直升中学或大派位中学：
本部：八一中学、19中、101初中部（原双榆树二中）、知春里中学
天秀校区：101上地实验学校、人大附中西山分校、农大附中
党校校区（原北宫门小学）：101上地实验学校、人大附中西山分校、八一、67中

see this
http://mall.fang.com/mall/201312/hdxxpm.html

the selection is based on distance, same as Singapore.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:42:28 GMT

pirated — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:42:28 GMT

Try the 161st sec school in Beijing. Next to Zhong Nan Hai

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:55:18 GMT

iRabbit — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:55:18 GMT

jpe:
sushi88:

Do you mean the primary school is good but the thru-train sec school is not-so-good...hence buying properties near good primary school is useless because the thru-train secondary is not-as-reputable? Otherwise I would agree with hquek and Ikid that it does not solve any problems but heat up the property market, allow the rich to get a good place from pri to sec and leave the not-so-well-to-do to go to alternative schools and divide the society further in terms of social mobility.

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.

Does the famous Beijing sch 中关村一小 also thru-train to a normal sec sch? Can't be right? How does this sch select children for P1 enrollment?

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:27:50 GMT

pirated — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:27:50 GMT

The property prices near top school is mostly due to its prime location in Singapore not so much due to proximity of good school.

Tell me, psf$ of a house near to NYPS versus another house near to ACS or rosyth, are they similar ?

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:57:41 GMT

jpe — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:57:41 GMT

sushi88:

This approach is playing on the branding vanity mindset of parents, most likely in the cities. In the short term it creates confusion in the parents' mind but in the long term...it might happen as what you say if majority of the parents are not financially able.

The first hurdle is children enrolled in better primary schools, would they even allow their kids to thru-train to the normal sec school after 6 years? If many of them are financially sound, after the good primary school exposure, they will send their kids overseas...like to SG! :yikes: So some of the cities' normal sec school may not be piped with the good students they think they can get from the good primary schools.

you may consider 1% of rich people could afford to send kids oversea for education, the cohort could have 1-2M already, no country can provide so many places for these richest kids without mentioned rest 99%. so actually, most of them still stay in the same place to complete their education.
every year, cn has 90+M students to attend uni exam. and sg we now are talking about how do these 500 GEPers affect the fairness of another 50K students. they simply have much more problems to sort it out.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:51:21 GMT

sushi88 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:51:21 GMT

3Boys:
jpe:
[quote=\"sushi88\"]
Do you mean the primary school is good but the thru-train sec school is not-so-good...hence buying properties near good primary school is useless because the thru-train secondary is not-as-reputable? Otherwise I would agree with hquek and Ikid that it does not solve any problems but heat up the property market, allow the rich to get a good place from pri to sec and leave the not-so-well-to-do to go to alternative schools and divide the society further in terms of social mobility.

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.

I can't see how that is possible at all.

If they through train a good P-school cohort en bloc to a normal sec school, that normal sec school will soon be a good sec school, and vice versa.[/quote]This approach is playing on the branding vanity mindset of parents, most likely in the cities. In the short term it creates confusion in the parents' mind but in the long term...it might happen as what you say if majority of the parents are not financially able.

The first hurdle is children enrolled in better primary schools, would they even allow their kids to thru-train to the normal sec school after 6 years? If many of them are financially sound, after the good primary school exposure, they will send their kids overseas...like to SG! :yikes: So some of the cities' normal sec school may not be piped with the good students they think they can get from the good primary schools.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:45:35 GMT

3Boys — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:45:35 GMT

Nebbermind:
3Boys:
[quote=\"jpe\"]
current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.
I can't see how that is possible at all.

If they through train a good P-school cohort en bloc to a normal sec school, that normal sec school will soon be a good sec school, and vice versa.

Good point! And the good sec school risks becoming normal too![/quote]Honestly this whole thread I just see circular (and circuitous) arguments.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:17:13 GMT

Nebbermind — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:17:13 GMT

3Boys:
jpe:

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.
I can't see how that is possible at all.

If they through train a good P-school cohort en bloc to a normal sec school, that normal sec school will soon be a good sec school, and vice versa.

Good point! And the good sec school risks becoming normal too!

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:08:41 GMT

3Boys — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:08:41 GMT

jpe:
sushi88:

Do you mean the primary school is good but the thru-train sec school is not-so-good...hence buying properties near good primary school is useless because the thru-train secondary is not-as-reputable? Otherwise I would agree with hquek and Ikid that it does not solve any problems but heat up the property market, allow the rich to get a good place from pri to sec and leave the not-so-well-to-do to go to alternative schools and divide the society further in terms of social mobility.

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.

I can't see how that is possible at all.

If they through train a good P-school cohort en bloc to a normal sec school, that normal sec school will soon be a good sec school, and vice versa.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:07:11 GMT

sushi88 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:07:11 GMT

jpe:
sushi88:

Do you mean the primary school is good but the thru-train sec school is not-so-good...hence buying properties near good primary school is useless because the thru-train secondary is not-as-reputable? Otherwise I would agree with hquek and Ikid that it does not solve any problems but heat up the property market, allow the rich to get a good place from pri to sec and leave the not-so-well-to-do to go to alternative schools and divide the society further in terms of social mobility.

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.

Thanks for clarifying. That is what I thought you meant as well. It will solve the problem temporarily if parents do not skew towards a good primary or a good secondary. If they do, the properties near a normal primary school may go up if the good secondary school is a hot one. Meanwhile, do self-enrichment when in primary school. In time to come, the normal primary school also will become not so normal... As for parents skewed towards good primary....come secondary, they will send their kids overseas. Sorry ah...this is what kiasu-ism is about. :siam:

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:05:49 GMT

floppy — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 07:05:49 GMT

jpe:

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.

I fail to see how this would solve the problem.
Instead of a 6 year primary education with an opportunity to normalise/reset on the 7th year and 11th/12th year, the new order would be a 10/11 year education to normalise/reset at the end. Demand to enter a good primary school (which covers the first 6 years of a 10 year education, i.e. majority) would be greater.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:59:27 GMT

jpe — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:59:27 GMT

AlphaOrca:

....
\"Every child, a good kid with a good future in whatever talent they have in them\".
............

fully agree about this.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:52:03 GMT

AlphaOrca — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:52:03 GMT

"Every school a good school"? Don’t be duped by the MOE. Instead, we should say "Every child, a good kid with a good future in whatever talent they have in them".

All these striving to get to top schools, top tertiary institutions, top honors and top jobs will one day kill our children. Look at Japan, Korea and many countries where they put so much emphasis on these things. Look at what they have achieve? They have high suicidal rates among their youth and graduates. A lot of the young people are feeling hopeless and have given up on themselves. Think these are just foreign news, wait till you find out what is the statistic here in SG.

Be kind to our children. They are not our instruments to a comfortable retirement.

Reply to Way to GEP for a Normal Kid on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:48:38 GMT

jpe — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 06:48:38 GMT

sushi88:

Do you mean the primary school is good but the thru-train sec school is not-so-good...hence buying properties near good primary school is useless because the thru-train secondary is not-as-reputable? Otherwise I would agree with hquek and Ikid that it does not solve any problems but heat up the property market, allow the rich to get a good place from pri to sec and leave the not-so-well-to-do to go to alternative schools and divide the society further in terms of social mobility.

current situation is, price of property near good primary school is ridiculously high.
so cn gov will do is, for a good primary school, thru-train to a normal sec school. or for a normal primary school thru-train to a good sec school. they hope it would solve this issue.