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ice cream 007:
It is really sad to see youngsters at this age taking their like that we have to be more alert.

Kids are taking psle very seriously. They are worried about their grades and where they will go. Although we parents try not to show our anxiety, the kids will still know. It's really heartbreaking to see them so worried. There are many more exams to go in life.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/86707/11-yo-jumped-at-fernvale-linkRSS for NodeTue, 28 Apr 2026 23:49:42 GMTSun, 04 Dec 2016 16:51:48 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sun, 04 Dec 2016 07:48:05 GMT]]>It is really sad to see youngsters at this age taking their like that we have to be more alert.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1738369https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1738369Sun, 04 Dec 2016 07:48:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:58:39 GMT]]>

jasonchua08:

Agreed, recently I went to my Sister in law house and went through P2 math homework with my niece. Their problem sum for P2 is like our P5 paper.. I think I am quite fortunate lol.
hubby is a full time tutor. he feels that p2 word problems is becoming challenging now.
i pity the kids...only 8 and already having to face such stress so soon.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1729009https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1729009Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:58:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Thu, 27 Oct 2016 08:29:47 GMT]]>

janet88:
alng:


i really think a jump from 80 to 20 marks is a lot but i am not sure what does this jump tell us...the school did not prepare the P5 kids well in the first 5 months or the SA1 exam was too tough or? 😞

son's math results was a BIG dip...from 80% in p4 to 20% in p5 ca1.

math at p5...paper 1 is about speed and accuracy within 50 minutes and no calculator allowed. so 1 question is about 1 minute plus. for paper 2, 18 math word problems is really no joke because problem sums are not easy. the exam could be difficult and/or the child just didn't have the ability to handle the problem sums.

Agreed, recently I went to my Sister in law house and went through P2 math homework with my niece. Their problem sum for P2 is like our P5 paper.. I think I am quite fortunate lol.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1728973https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1728973Thu, 27 Oct 2016 08:29:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sun, 23 Oct 2016 01:24:24 GMT]]>

alng:

i really think a jump from 80 to 20 marks is a lot but i am not sure what does this jump tell us...the school did not prepare the P5 kids well in the first 5 months or the SA1 exam was too tough or? 😞
son's math results was a BIG dip...from 80% in p4 to 20% in p5 ca1.

math at p5...paper 1 is about speed and accuracy within 50 minutes and no calculator allowed. so 1 question is about 1 minute plus. for paper 2, 18 math word problems is really no joke because problem sums are not easy. the exam could be difficult and/or the child just didn't have the ability to handle the problem sums.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727832https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727832Sun, 23 Oct 2016 01:24:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 08:10:34 GMT]]>

janet88:
alng:

I have a P5 ds and was really shocked when my friend sent me the news last night.


It is very common for P5 SA1 results to drop by more than 10 marks as there is a big jump between P4 and P5. Parents still have time to prepare the child for PSLE.

there is a big jump from p4 to p5 syllabus.
my son had 80+ for his math sa2 in p4 but dropped to 20/100 for his p5 ca1. hubby couldn't understand what is going on. 2011 was a year of heart attacks. MOE has to review the syllabus. why such a steep increase?

i really think a jump from 80 to 20 marks is a lot but i am not sure what does this jump tell us...the school did not prepare the P5 kids well in the first 5 months or the SA1 exam was too tough or? 😞

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727745https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727745Sat, 22 Oct 2016 08:10:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 06:22:42 GMT]]>I was shocked and saddened to read this news. I cannot even imagine what the parents are going through now. My condolences to them.


This is becoming common in certain Asian cities where academic pressure is becoming impossibly high. I am shocked at the kind of hours school children in Sg keep. Even working adults don’t keep that kind of hours. After they come home from work, they usually have a quick takeaway dinner and veg out in front of the TV. But they expect their kids to attend tuitions after a long school day, then come home, do double homework, and extra assessment books. It’s insane.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727734https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727734Sat, 22 Oct 2016 06:22:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:25:27 GMT]]>

phtthp:
Straits Times reported of a Pr 5 boy, who committed suicide from 17th floor in May.

Reason :
He failed Higher Chinese and Maths.

His mom expected him to get at least 70 marks. For the shortfall, his mom will gently hit him on his palm. The boy experienced fear, rejection and lack of competence. He took off from his window flat.
Before that, he told his mom that his results were average.

Teen suicide had escalated and this year, 2 students from a high profile Secondary school/JC committed suicide, one week after each other. MOE is paying close attention, to this.

Pls praise your child, for the effort he/she puts in. We can never tell, if a child have learning difficulties. Sometimes, this learning difficulty goes undetected, until much later in Secondary school.

nowadays, there are children who refuse to go to school as well, as studens who have friendship problems and thoughts of suicide. No school is spared. Some counsellors are visiting schools, to understand better the emotional needs of children, and what schools are doing to help them.
Children need love and support. We must always cheer them on, for whatever effort they put in.

A lot of educated parents cannot accept that their children are not scoring, or their peers are doing better than them. This tragedy is so sad. Help your children to accept failures, and build their resilience.

What when your child who has consistently produced good grades (or grades accepted by parents) n suddenly grades dropped drastically. Can't the parents express disappointment when results are made known first? What when the parents know that the child is capable of producing good grades?

How do u tackle such feelings?

I believe sensible n logical parents will not push their children beyond their capability but there are also some irrational parents will do just that - push them to suicide.

I think initial expression of disappointment by parents is acceptable, just that parents need to sit down n talk to the child to see what went wrong n how to rectify the problem. Then both shld just move on n work harder for the next exam.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727715https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727715Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:25:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:16:49 GMT]]>Straits Times reported of a Pr 5 boy, who committed suicide from 17th floor in May.

Reason :
He failed Higher Chinese and Maths.

His mom expected him to get at least 70 marks. For the shortfall, his mom will gently hit him on his palm. The boy experienced fear, rejection and lack of competence. He took off from his window flat.
Before that, he told his mom that his results were average.

Teen suicide had escalated and this year, 2 students from a high profile Secondary school/JC committed suicide, one week after each other. MOE is paying close attention, to this.

Pls praise your child, for the effort he/she puts in. We can never tell, if a child have learning difficulties. Sometimes, this learning difficulty goes undetected, until much later in Secondary school.

nowadays, there are children who refuse to go to school as well, as studens who have friendship problems and thoughts of suicide. No school is spared. Some counsellors are visiting schools, to understand better the emotional needs of children, and what schools are doing to help them.
Children need love and support. We must always cheer them on, for whatever effort they put in.

A lot of educated parents cannot accept that their children are not scoring, or their peers are doing better than them. This tragedy is so sad. Help your children to accept failures, and build their resilience.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727711https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727711Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:16:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 02:28:09 GMT]]>

alng:
I have a P5 ds and was really shocked when my friend sent me the news last night.


It is very common for P5 SA1 results to drop by more than 10 marks as there is a big jump between P4 and P5. Parents still have time to prepare the child for PSLE.
there is a big jump from p4 to p5 syllabus.
my son had 80+ for his math sa2 in p4 but dropped to 20/100 for his p5 ca1. hubby couldn't understand what is going on. 2011 was a year of heart attacks. MOE has to review the syllabus. why such a steep increase?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727680https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727680Sat, 22 Oct 2016 02:28:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 22 Oct 2016 02:20:26 GMT]]>

sevenseals:
Very saddened, even it is second time hearing the same news being reported again but in more detail.

Have you seen the P5, P6 math word problems?
Even adult degree holders would have a hard time understanding the question, not to say solve them. The bad feeling after attempting such questions will last for days.

Why do teachers set such tough questions? To prove the teachers are smarter than the kids?
No, there is a secret quota of certain number of PSLE failures so that they could fill up the ITE college, otherwise ITE will have no business.

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore-news/pri-5-boy-falls-death-after-failing-exams-first-time

\"She would hit him once for every mark short of 70 marks.\"
many of us buy past year exam papers for our kids as a form of exposure.
but did those schools actually teach their students how to answer those crazy math questions?
what is the purpose? wake up call or to show off that their students are able to answer those challenging questions?
degree holders would have problems solving those questions. what more 11 year olds.

we have to know our children's capabilities and put ourselves in their shoes. the syllabus is set way too tough year after year. this is why parents go haywire and paranoid. are we able to answer those questions and pass psle exams? my daughter, although academically weak is definitely more intelligent than me. at the very least, she is able to understand what is taught.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727678https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727678Sat, 22 Oct 2016 02:20:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:54:46 GMT]]>I think as much as the boy’s mother has set high expectations, it is not entirely the mother’s fault. How many of us are not tiger mums? Should she know the outcome is pushing the child to his death, I am sure she would not have ‘caned’ him.

The loss of a child is too hard to bear. Let’s just let the family have some peace.

The system will not change, neither will the society, just because of one death. It is useless to criticise the system. I feel that our attitude is more important. Teaching our children the ways to adopt a positive attitude towards life is more important than anything.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727616https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727616Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:54:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:49:10 GMT]]>As sad as it is for the parents, I think its important for this to be covered in the press. Given the exam period, its a timely reminder of what could happen and whats truly important to us as parents. Going to give my son a hug now…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727588https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727588Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:49:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:23:23 GMT]]>happened months ago but coroner report is out

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727584https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727584Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:23:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:57:45 GMT]]>Very saddened, even it is second time hearing the same news being reported again but in more detail.

Have you seen the P5, P6 math word problems?
Even adult degree holders would have a hard time understanding the question, not to say solve them. The bad feeling after attempting such questions will last for days.

Why do teachers set such tough questions? To prove the teachers are smarter than the kids?
No, there is a secret quota of certain number of PSLE failures so that they could fill up the ITE college, otherwise ITE will have no business.

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore-news/pri-5-boy-falls-death-after-failing-exams-first-time

\"She would hit him once for every mark short of 70 marks.\"

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727567https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727567Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:57:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:53:35 GMT]]>

starlight1968sg:
This case was in May 2016?

Featured in todays TNP

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore-news/pri-5-boy-falls-death-after-failing-exams-first-time?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1477009567

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727565https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727565Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:53:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:48:46 GMT]]>This case was in May 2016?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727564https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727564Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:48:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:35:41 GMT]]>😢

Heartache

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727558https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727558Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:35:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:52:12 GMT]]>Yeah very sad…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727545https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727545Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:52:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:46:17 GMT]]>Sad... :sad:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727542https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727542Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:46:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:40:26 GMT]]>In his first four years in primary school, he had never fared poorly in any examination subject, usually averaging about 70 marks.


But in this year’s mid-year exams, the Primary 5 pupil found out that he had failed two papers – mathematics and Higher Chinese.

On May 18, the boy was found dead at the foot of his Sengkang block, just nine days after his 11th birthday.

He was due to collect his exam results that day for his parents to acknowledge.

A coroner’s inquiry into the boy’s death yesterday was told that his 45-year-old mother thought he had killed himself over his exam results by jumping from his bedroom window in the 17th-storey flat.

But his father, a 47-year-old customer service engineer, felt his son had accidentally fallen to his death.


SHIN MIN DAILY NEWS FILE PHOTO
The identities of the boy, his family members and his school cannot be disclosed because of a gag order.

Yesterday, investigation officer Inspector Lynn Ong told State Coroner Marvin Bay that the boy’s mother, a housewife, had expected him to score at least 70 marks per subject for his exams.

He had scored about 70 marks for every subject from Primary 1 to Primary 4.

If he did not meet her expectations, she would cane his palm lightly, Insp Ong said, adding: "She would hit him once for every mark short of 70 marks."

However, she would cane him only if his average score across all subjects was below 70 marks.

"Sometimes, she would look through his examination papers first, and if they were difficult, she would not hit him."

His mother also rewarded him when he did well, such as buying him a gift.

For the mid-year exam, he had asked for a kite, and she bought one for him on May 14, even before the results were out. He went out to fly the kite with his father the next day.

The school principal described the boy as an average performer who was generally able to cope with school.

The principal also said that pupils tend to see a dip in their exam results in Primary 5 because of changes in the exam format to prepare them for PSLE.

The boy found out his results before May 18, when the exam papers were returned to the pupils for checking.

Out of 100 marks, he scored 50 for English, 53.8 for Chinese and 57.5 for science. He fared poorly in two subjects, scoring 12 marks for Higher Chinese and 20.5 for mathematics.

UPSET

The boy’s Chinese and Higher Chinese teacher noticed that he was visibly upset after receiving the results for both subjects.

However, his science teacher saw him on May 17, a day before he was supposed to take his results home to show his parents, and he was cheerful and bubbly as usual, the court heard.

On May 18, his father noticed that he was taking a longer time than usual to get ready for school.

His mother tried to open the bedroom door, but it was locked.

She used a spare key to unlock it, and when they entered the room, he was nowhere to be seen.

The couple, who also have a 16-year-old daughter, looked out of the window and saw their son lying on a grass patch at the foot of their block.

His mother called the police at around 6.50am.

She called his school about 15 minutes later and told the principal what happened and said she needed help as her husband was distraught.

Insp Ong said that when the principal arrived at the scene, the mother was "very emotionally unstable".

"She heard her lamenting in Mandarin, saying ‘I only asked for 70 marks, I don’t expect you to get 80 marks,’" Insp Ong added.

A paramedic pronounced the boy dead at the scene at around 7am.

The police do not suspect any foul play.

The cause of death was found to be multiple injuries, consistent with those sustained after a person had fallen from height.

Coroner Bay will deliver his findings today.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727540https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1727540Fri, 21 Oct 2016 06:40:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sun, 22 May 2016 08:00:24 GMT]]>It’s indeed tragic

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1682520https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1682520Sun, 22 May 2016 08:00:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 21 May 2016 16:53:16 GMT]]>Heartbreaking news to say the least. May he find peace wherever he is.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1682336https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1682336Sat, 21 May 2016 16:53:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 11 yo jumped at Fernvale link on Sat, 21 May 2016 06:02:44 GMT]]>it's the effort which many parents should praise the kids for...and that effort and attitude can be seen.


only 11. so sad :sad:

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