<![CDATA[ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong]]>This appears on Straits Times My Point on 6Feb10


\"...MS TOH SIEW TIN: 'I agree with Mr David Goh ('O-level's A-level disadvantage: Have more IP schools', Jan 23) that the Integrated Programme (IP) has created a space crunch in Singapore's top junior colleges (JCs). My daughter scored 10 distinctions - six A1s and four A2s - but failed to win a place in Hwa Chong, her first-choice JC. Distinctions in two additional subjects, Music Elective Programme and Higher Chinese, give no added advantage over IP students. Naturally, I regret not enrolling her in the IP or channelling her to the direct school admission programme earlier. Perhaps Hwa Chong or the Ministry of Education can explain why she failed to gain entry to her first-choice JC?' ...\"


what's your opinon?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/8774/st-my-points-6-a1s-4a2s-can-t-get-into-hwa-chongRSS for NodeSat, 18 Apr 2026 20:07:23 GMTSat, 06 Feb 2010 11:12:45 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:18:21 GMT]]>hey, how they rank your class then?

now it’s called year/arts or science/six or seven/alphabet or letter.
For example, 09S70. I also don’t know how they put one, it seems random, lol.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129967https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129967Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:18:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:03:58 GMT]]>

lovekidsverymuch:
skunk:

the top classes produce even more lol


one guy i knew from sec 2 (after that i was thrown to the last class while he went to the first lol), he became a President's Scholar...now he's a pilot.

And when i went to KK with my wife for checkup, the doc was a guy from the 2nd class hehe

And when my wife was hospitalised for an allergy, the doc was from the 4th class HAHAHA

My class only 1 doc, considered very pathetic already LOL


No wonder ppl crazy to get in this JC :!:

People are all over the places...

Haha, the fear of being recognized...or identified would have driven these guys totally nuts! πŸ˜‰

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lovekidsverymuch:

Thats amazing which means all these classifications are of no use :? cause if the last class can produce all these ppl then why classify????? u should be definitely be proud keep it up!!
the top classes produce even more lol

one guy i knew from sec 2 (after that i was thrown to the last class while he went to the first lol), he became a President's Scholar...now he's a pilot.

And when i went to KK with my wife for checkup, the doc was a guy from the 2nd class hehe

And when my wife was hospitalised for an allergy, the doc was from the 4th class HAHAHA

My class only 1 doc, considered very pathetic already LOL

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129453https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129453Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:32:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:25:40 GMT]]>

lovekidsverymuch:

But from ur posts can see ur intelligent πŸ˜‰
not intelligent enough lor LOL

I was in the last class. In the old days (I dunno about now) the classes are roughly ranked by subject combi, then academic performance. And within the class, we're ranked by our marks. I was 2nd last....so i was 2nd last in the whole school LOL

And even though my class was the last class, we've produced one SAFOS scholar, 2 lawyers, one doctor, a whole horde of bankers,......and one Ah Kua LOL

I'm very proud of my school and my class πŸ™‚

The recent class gathering, saw a few guys with BMW and Merc already...one guy with a CLK with the top down woohoo.....and i'm the only one in a rotten old car lol

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xxjustakidxx:

I heard before it turned SAP it wasn't that of a good school.
It only wasn't so good during my father's time...that's in the 1960s.

All the way from late 70s onwards, it had an illustrous history of producing scholars, entrepreneurs and even one President hehe.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of them lol

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129339https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129339Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:29:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:23:47 GMT]]>

skunk:
tankee:


don't think that is possible now with we as parents being so protective over our precious kid(s).

and whoever had hair that was too long/dyed, had their hair cut by the Head of P.E, who was the de-facto discipline master. He was really a terrible barber LOL.

Whoever was not happy with the school rules, were free to quit school/transfer. The school never bent its rules to satisfy parents. It had its own source of funding from wholly-owned construction company Hua Tiong, tons of money left behind by benefactor Tan Kah Kee and family (I was in the same class as his great-grandson lol) and it was largely free from MOE controls due to its status as an independent school.

When i was there, i hated it so much. But now, looking back, I was glad i was raised in such a draconian environment. It made me realise, inside me, is a tougher man than myself.

I heard before it turned SAP it wasn't that of a good school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129018https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/129018Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:23:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:20:50 GMT]]>:lol: :lol: looks like this thread has evolved into a Chinese High/HCI thread! :lol: :lol:

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ooptimizer:

The PE master was called Mr Foo, right?
yeah, \"Tiger\" Foo lol

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skunk:


and whoever had hair that was too long/dyed, had their hair cut by the Head of P.E, who was the de-facto discipline master. He was really a terrible barber LOL.
The PE master was called Mr Foo, right?

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xxjustakidxx:

WOW, he was called Dr everytime we were in the Auditorium and he picked up random topics to \"debate\" about. wait - if he wasn't called dr, then?
During my time, he was Head of Student Development. He personally counselled me countless times, as I was officially the worst student in the school lol. I bet he would still remember me today....i put him through the baptism of fire lol

So i did with Ng Seow Choon, Tan Pheng Tiong, and many other senior teachers still around today hehe

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124536https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124536Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:26:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:23:18 GMT]]>

tankee:

don't think that is possible now with we as parents being so protective over our precious kid(s).
and whoever had hair that was too long/dyed, had their hair cut by the Head of P.E, who was the de-facto discipline master. He was really a terrible barber LOL.

Whoever was not happy with the school rules, were free to quit school/transfer. The school never bent its rules to satisfy parents. It had its own source of funding from wholly-owned construction company Hua Tiong, tons of money left behind by benefactor Tan Kah Kee and family (I was in the same class as his great-grandson lol) and it was largely free from MOE controls due to its status as an independent school.

When i was there, i hated it so much. But now, looking back, I was glad i was raised in such a draconian environment. It made me realise, inside me, is a tougher man than myself.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124534https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124534Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:23:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:13:01 GMT]]>

skunk:
xxjustakidxx:


Three Cheers for Dr Hon (lol)

when I was in The Chinese High School, he was still not a \"Dr\" yet lol. I still prefer the school as it was run in the old days, like a military school. We were not boys, but little men. We marched from building to building, every Saturday, the whole school had to go back to run 4.8km.

We were tough, mind, body and spirit. Students who did not do homework, had to carry their desk and run around the field. Real men were brought up that way.

WOW, he was called Dr everytime we were in the Auditorium and he picked up random topics to \"debate\" about. wait - if he wasn't called dr, then?

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skunk:
.... Students who did not do homework, had to carry their desk and run around the field.....

:!: :!: :!:

don't think that is possible now with we as parents being so protective over our precious kid(s).

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xxjustakidxx:

Three Cheers for Dr Hon (lol)
when I was in The Chinese High School, he was still not a \"Dr\" yet lol. I still prefer the school as it was run in the old days, like a military school. We were not boys, but little men. We marched from building to building, every Saturday, the whole school had to go back to run 4.8km.

We were tough, mind, body and spirit. Students who did not do homework, had to carry their desk and run around the field. Real men were brought up that way.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124517https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124517Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:04:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:58:33 GMT]]>

xxjustakidxx:
keroppi:

Copied from ST Forum:

'The cut-off point is calculated using the L1R5 scoring system, and not the number of distinctions attained.'

DR HON CHIEW WENG, principal, Hwa Chong Institution: 'I refer to Ms Toh Siew Tin's letter on Saturday, 'O-level disadvantage: Six A1s and four A2s - but failed to win a place in first-choice JC'. We congratulate Ms Toh's daughter on her good performance. The cut-off point is calculated using the L1R5 scoring system, and not the number of distinctions attained. This scoring system takes into account the student's first language (L1) and five relevant subjects (R5), which must include at least one from Mathematics, Science and Humanities. Each school's cut-off point varies from year to year, depending on the number and quality of applicants who apply under the Joint Admission Exercise. This year, Hwa Chong's cut-off point for both the Arts and Science streams is 3. This includes bonus deductions for passing Higher Mother Tongue and outstanding Co-Curricular Activities records. We regret that not everyone who puts Hwa Chong as his first-choice school was posted to us. We wish Ms Toh's daughter all the best.'

Three Cheers for Dr Hon (lol)


The L1R5 is the sole criteria, then it is very important to cover the compulsory L1 and H1 components because these are the weakest links in the L1R5 chain of subject combination.

For risk mitigation, a double science double humanities combination is higher chance of achieving a better L1R5 than a triple science with sole humanities combination. Furthermore, the student should try to take HMT to get a 2-point advantage, and get 2 CCA bonus point and mitigate risk of doing badly (not getting A1) in EL1. This is the stress of doing O levels to get into top 5 JCs.

For those students who want to get into poly though, it is not so stressful, but still they must do well in EL1, E Maths and Science.

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keroppi:
Copied from ST Forum:

'The cut-off point is calculated using the L1R5 scoring system, and not the number of distinctions attained.'

DR HON CHIEW WENG, principal, Hwa Chong Institution: 'I refer to Ms Toh Siew Tin's letter on Saturday, 'O-level disadvantage: Six A1s and four A2s - but failed to win a place in first-choice JC'. We congratulate Ms Toh's daughter on her good performance. The cut-off point is calculated using the L1R5 scoring system, and not the number of distinctions attained. This scoring system takes into account the student's first language (L1) and five relevant subjects (R5), which must include at least one from Mathematics, Science and Humanities. Each school's cut-off point varies from year to year, depending on the number and quality of applicants who apply under the Joint Admission Exercise. This year, Hwa Chong's cut-off point for both the Arts and Science streams is 3. This includes bonus deductions for passing Higher Mother Tongue and outstanding Co-Curricular Activities records. We regret that not everyone who puts Hwa Chong as his first-choice school was posted to us. We wish Ms Toh's daughter all the best.'
Three Cheers for Dr Hon (lol)

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Serafiel:
lol, I got 7A1s and 3A2s and barely managed to squeeze into HC. I'm already feeling stressed from being like the \"dumbest\" in HC.

True, it seems like stellar results.
But it's still worse than those who get 6A1s and 3 C6s, just because their L1R5 is still lower than yours. Too bad lah.
She should have taken CLEP.
Plus, this year HC only admits around 150 by JAE, then like 30 from appeal?
Me too :x although I only in High School section.

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ks2me:

Hey I shared with my dh that you are stressed....and his advice for you is:

\"It's not how you get into HC, it's how you get out...\" So surge forward and don't look back now. πŸ˜‰
hey thanks a lot for your encouragement. I want to get 8As for my Alevels too, but not sure how I will achieve that, especially since only the top in HC seems to get that, lol.

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Serafiel:
lol, I got 7A1s and 3A2s and barely managed to squeeze into HC. I'm already feeling stressed from being like the \"dumbest\" in HC.

True, it seems like stellar results.
But it's still worse than those who get 6A1s and 3 C6s, just because their L1R5 is still lower than yours. Too bad lah.
She should have taken CLEP.
Plus, this year HC only admits around 150 by JAE, then like 30 from appeal?
Hey I shared with my dh that you are stressed....and his advice for you is:

\"It's not how you get into HC, it's how you get out...\" So surge forward and don't look back now. πŸ˜‰

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124378https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/124378Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:58:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to ST My Points - 6 A1s 4A2s can't get into Hwa Chong on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:55:25 GMT]]>lol, I got 7A1s and 3A2s and barely managed to squeeze into HC. I’m already feeling stressed from being like the "dumbest" in HC.

True, it seems like stellar results.
But it’s still worse than those who get 6A1s and 3 C6s, just because their L1R5 is still lower than yours. Too bad lah.
She should have taken CLEP.
Plus, this year HC only admits around 150 by JAE, then like 30 from appeal?

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radiantmum:
Eh ... folks, what are we saying here? A 6A1s student need to take a road less travelled? It sure sounds like that at one glance :shock: Honestly I did not interpret her messgage as MOE/Hwa Chong owes her kid a place, I am actually apalled too that 6A1s is still considered as NOT GOOD ENOUGH :shock:

6A1s must include the critical L1(EL1 or HMT) and H1(Humanity) plus must deduct 2 points for CCA and 2 points for HMT. In short, perfect scorer! πŸ˜„

6-2-2 = 2 point to get a sure chance since COP is 3 and there are thousands who can get 3 point and not all can get in.

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VitoRelax:
MLR:

Back to topic.


Any idea if theres a reply from HCJC or MOE?

Thanks.

Reply at Page 3 of this thread

Thanks Dom.

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tankee:
VitoRelax:

[quote=\"tankee\"]:? wonder why Vito so passionate about this topic :?


It is your fault, you start this thread & seek comments mah ...

But hor, once I start writing cannot stop leh ..

Maybe I ate wrong medicine πŸ˜„

Tell you a secret, ....... πŸ˜„

:!: you better edit this before she somehow finds out. πŸ˜‰[/quote]No need to be scared lah, let her finds out lah ... i think she will be more embarassed than me ... πŸ˜„

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VitoRelax:
tankee:

:? wonder why Vito so passionate about this topic :?


It is your fault, you start this thread & seek comments mah ...

But hor, once I start writing cannot stop leh ..

Maybe I ate wrong medicine πŸ˜„

Tell you a secret, ....... πŸ˜„

:!: you better edit this before she somehow finds out. πŸ˜‰

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