<![CDATA[“You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018]]>http://www.theindependent.sg/sleeping-on-the-job-expert-who-helped-convince-lky-to-build-mrt-network-says-signalling-system-was-to-be-upgraded-in-2002/

[quote]“He was also critical of the frequent train service disruptions in recent years due to signalling faults.
“”When we were designing the MRT system. we stated that the signalling systems were meant to be replaced after 15 years,” he said.
“But the upgrading of the signalling system, initially slated to be completed by 2002, only got off the ground in 2016 and will now be completed by the middle of this year (2018). “Someone must have been sleeping on the job,” he said.”[/quote]Hmm.. wonder if it is more meaningful to investigate if anyone has been sleeping on the job, or asking SL to apologise..

Wait.. Maybe need to ask Wildermuth to apologize for the remark.. 😆

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/90679/you-have-been-robbed-dear-singaporeans-budget-2018RSS for NodeSun, 26 Apr 2026 03:40:00 GMTTue, 13 Mar 2018 03:17:15 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:38:08 GMT]]>

limlim:


Ownself check ownself so that not scare others check.

Not \"ownself check ownself\" as excuse to \"block others from checking ownself\" because there is too many things to hide!
The issue with this \"ownself check ownself\" thing is not so much whether anyone is afraid of being checked by others and therefore, they need to implement an internal check/ audit.

For me, I feel that there needs to be a check and balance - regardless of whether the people involved think they are clean or otherwise. That's why in all public companies, there are internal checks (beforehand) and also external audits. It may not even be an intentional wrong-doing but being in the thick of things, it could very well be an innocent oversight or even a self-rationalization that the ends justify the means.

There's a Latin saying: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ... Who guards the guards?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837869https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837869Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:38:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:02:21 GMT]]>I’m thinking of the big items that will be affected. Car, renovation, etc. How about house purchase? Got GST also?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837862https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837862Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:02:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:50:03 GMT]]>

laughingcat:


This whole saga, I just felt sad that G is like a bully. It is like telling me that no one should question the G. Everything G said must be accepted and move on. I thought Parliament is to check and challenge the work of the Government. Make and change laws legislation. Debating the important issues of the day. Sorry to say that. That is my opinion.
I am not sure where I heard the term \"whiter than white\", but impression is that it came from 1 of the esteemed leaders.

The idea is, if not \"心里有鬼”，not scare pple question or probe. Hence it is important for leaders to be \"whiter than white\".

Ownself check ownself so that not scare others check.

Not \"ownself check ownself\" as excuse to \"block others from checking ownself\" because there is too many things to hide!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837847https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837847Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:50:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:37:04 GMT]]>

ammonite:
Bitchy? :rotflmao:


(Okay I went to look up the list of synonyms and I guess the closest gender neutral terms are uncivil and discourteous.)
Now that I'm more free to ponder..

Un-Charismatic?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837844https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837844Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:37:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:43:43 GMT]]>There are overlapping issues here, it would be too convenient to conflate them.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837706https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837706Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:43:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:30:05 GMT]]>

pirate:
Announce before the GE that GST will very likely have to be increased after the GE, they say you actually want to increase now but decided to make U-turn. Don't announce before the GE, they say you sneakily increase GST only after the GE. Announce or don't announce they also got something to say. 🤷


Ya lor. See I'm trying to ustand the unhappiness on the ground.

One one hand, we the citizens of Spore keep climbing ladder - more pay, higher profit, etc. Then, private & govt sector hv to keep pace with pay structures. Buy bigger houses, upgrade to condos, more tuition, more vacations... Costs go up. Other whammy comes in when natural disasters set in ... you know how things affect us in domino. Yet, many on the ground don't see the cost pressure on govt services?

We're a nation aging rapidly. Our forefathers didn't hv it as good. We've enjoyed the fruits to some extent, participating in the economy, reaped its successes, and now will be called upon to chip in a little into coffers for govt services for elderly programs, childcare & what else...

Govt hv been watching costs. We're very thankful that university fees are within reach, medical costs are contained & where it needs, it'll relieve burden on elderly and spread costs to the younger folks. I shudder the day we go the way British govt slash budget on edn & universities hv to look for outside revenue.

I like what President Shi Jin Ping says on the one hand need to watch current nation's needs, on the other hand need to store part of harvest or plant seeds for future generations.

I was ignorant once, when I hear my frds gripe why & where govt spending on what infrastructure tt big surplus cannot be used but project for GST increases coming ... akandadang. Then, I saw the magnificent SilkRoad connecting Europe & Asia. We were not left out, but this is major infrastructure, and at homeground we're upgrading MRT systems that requires investments which had been many years un-activated.

Not easy being leaders to such well educated & vocal Singaporeans. Plan ahead, do & provide current & future needs still get unhappiness on the ground & arrows too. Just sad that we're unhappy voices & not able to find heart of contentment & thankfulness. Just fatigue hearing some voices on the grd.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837703https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837703Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:30:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:32:52 GMT]]>Announce before the GE that GST will very likely have to be increased after the GE, they say you actually want to increase now but decided to make U-turn. Don't announce before the GE, they say you sneakily increase GST only after the GE. Announce or don't announce they also got something to say. 🤷

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837691https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837691Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:32:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:57:23 GMT]]>Now it seems normal for ministers to drop some bombshell and sort of hiniting you that there is upcoming changes and so brave yourself.


Already not happy with the prices increase…electricity, water, transport and GST…yada yada. Why all these must happen within 3 years? Some changes to be implemented within 1 year.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837683https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837683Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:57:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:52:13 GMT]]>I am a neutral party, although deep inside me I would say the G can do better. The opposition did raised some important points.


Also I see there is nothing wrong for SL to question. As a citizen, I would also question. The questions are not entirely against the G. But questioning for clarity of the situation.

This whole saga, I just felt sad that G is like a bully. It is like telling me that no one should question the G. Everything G said must be accepted and move on. I thought Parliament is to check and challenge the work of the Government. Make and change laws legislation. Debating the important issues of the day. Sorry to say that. That is my opinion.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837680https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837680Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:52:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:37:39 GMT]]>I know I’ve been teaching my kids abt bullying - how to handle, how to respond and not to bully (whether fights, name call or owise). Anything that hurt others physically or verbally hit at their feelings. Hmmm… it’s really hard to teach kids one thing and they see adults doing name calling, splash across to get others to meet along. Yikes!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837677https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837677Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:37:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:13:05 GMT]]>https://imgur.com/0aM8KMq.png\">


https://www.prolificskins.com/forum/current-affairs/indralee-rajah-gets-whacked-left-right-upside-down-on-fb

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837673https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837673Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:13:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:53:14 GMT]]>

limlim:
Its generally accepted that there is no capable opp at the moment.


Hence, pple have no choice but to accept the current G bcoz they hv no other choice.

You are probably right to say there is no better G alternative ATM.

But it doesn't mean the current one is good enough that the pple don't need to question the things they do.

I didn't say SL is good. I didn't say SL can rule. But she did no wrong for this case and the attack on her is unnecessary and ungentlemently.
Sometimes, I wonder which is more sad.

1. A lack of capable opposition in a parliament lacking of capable proposition.
2. We have to accept underwhelming opposition because there's no other option and at the same time, we have to accept underwhelming proposition because there's no other option.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837656https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837656Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:53:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:31:58 GMT]]>Bitchy? :rotflmao:


(Okay I went to look up the list of synonyms and I guess the closest gender neutral terms are uncivil and discourteous.)

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837653https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837653Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:31:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:16:06 GMT]]>

mum_sugoku:
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/03/11/did-ntuc-float-test-balloons-on-gst-hike-with-survey-in-nov-2017/


(BTW I feel it's perfectly OK for govt to \"float test balloon\" or conduct surveys; it shows govt do care about our sentiments. 😄 )
I agree - what's wrong with an elected govt checking out what the electorate are comfortable with? That's why I am very puzzled why they are so adamant that SL needs to apologise. She's not accusing them of doing anything immoral or illegal, and she has acknowledged that her suspicion was mistaken. And yes, \"ungentlemanly\" is the word for the men; what's the female term? \"unladylike\" doesn't have the same meaning!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837648https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837648Mon, 12 Mar 2018 05:16:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 03:46:48 GMT]]>https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/03/11/did-ntuc-float-test-balloons-on-gst-hike-with-survey-in-nov-2017/


(BTW I feel it's perfectly OK for govt to \"float test balloon\" or conduct surveys; it shows govt do care about our sentiments. 😄 )

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837638https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837638Mon, 12 Mar 2018 03:46:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 03:39:53 GMT]]>Its generally accepted that there is no capable opp at the moment.


Hence, pple have no choice but to accept the current G bcoz they hv no other choice.

You are probably right to say there is no better G alternative ATM.

But it doesn’t mean the current one is good enough that the pple don’t need to question the things they do.

I didn’t say SL is good. I didn’t say SL can rule. But she did no wrong for this case and the attack on her is unnecessary and ungentlemently.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837637https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837637Mon, 12 Mar 2018 03:39:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:46:59 GMT]]>

limlim:
More likely the confidence in the G has eroded.


Sad. Unless u can govern better. I don't think LTK or SL can govern. They can't even govern their town council with clean hands. Just sad.

I used to be on the critic side against our leaders, but realised & came to my senses tt we don't hv a better govt or one who wld leverage on their capabilities & train, groom, nature future leaders to serve the ppl. I'm not saying they're perfect, but in confidence they're still mostly selfless. But after next GE, I've no eyes to see.

I guess I've to prepare my kids for govt to be taken over completely & new party leaders who'll hv to face reality of Spore economy (in face of world events & natural disasters, etc) & make similar attempts to implement GST hikes or other taxes. I'd extrapolate for my kids the same ppl will insists their suspicion was a mistake & it is nec to implement but \"I'll not say sorry\" for all the previous actions & words of suspicions, \"bcoz I'm elected to represent the interests of the ppl.

Hmmm...

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837602https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837602Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:46:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:34:11 GMT]]>

limlim:
Estéema:

Hmmm, we're not legal eagles yet we were clear govt did not intend for immediate raise of GST when announcements were 1st made. GOOD.

But there is no confidence that they will keep their words. If they are confident, why would the analyst predict an impending hike?

If pple tell you flooding is a once in 50 years freak event, you believe?


Far out of topic. Not participating

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837600https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837600Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:34:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:21:46 GMT]]>More likely the confidence in the G has eroded.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837597https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837597Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:21:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:20:48 GMT]]>I think our stds hv eroded for eagerness to hv any opposition. I suspect

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837596https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837596Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:20:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:20:31 GMT]]>

Estéema:
Hmmm, we're not legal eagles yet we were clear govt did not intend for immediate raise of GST when announcements were 1st made. GOOD.
But there is no confidence that they will keep their words. If they are confident, why would the analyst predict an impending hike?

If pple tell you flooding is a once in 50 years freak event, you believe?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837595https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837595Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:20:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:05:04 GMT]]>She admit that the \"suspicion\" was wrong, but the act of \"bringing up the suspicion (with basis of which already clearly communicated)\" was not wrong.


There is 2 subject matter here. The \"subject matter of the suspicion\", and the \"duty of bringing up the suspicion\". Don't be confused.

Take an example, a teacher say to the student \"You are late for school\" when the student is not late. In this case, the teacher said the wrong thing and what she said was wrong.

If the teacher say \"I suspect you are late for school\" (suspicion supported with basis). In this case, the teacher didn't say wrong thing as it's her duty to query. But what she said could be wrong(late for school). If the teacher ack that the suspicion was wrong, the student should just clarify and be gracious about it and move on. Why harp on it.

If you want to fault her for the choice of words, you might have a case (it wasn't the most elegant delivery). But if you want to fault her for on the act of speaking up, then, IMO, that just so not right..


http://www.theindependent.sg/pap-ministers-were-brow-beating-sylvia-lim-tan-cheng-bock-throws-weight-behind-wp-mp/
[quote]“If MPs believe that something is wrong, it’s an MP’s job to pursue the facts and make these allegations in their own name, decide whether something seems to be wrong, and if you think something is wrong, even if you’re not fully sure, then come to this House, confront the Government, ask for explanations and answers.”[/quote][quote]“PM Lee was echoing the view of our former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew who said “All MPs new and old, should speak out. You have to speak up and bring out the grapevine criticism in the coffee shops and hawker centres. It is damaging for the government not to openly refute it with facts and argument. By bringing up apparently embarrassing issues, you help the government openly state the facts and explain the reasons for our policies and so continue to hold the ground.”

“So be gracious, no need to over-react or ask for any apology for bringing out “grapevine criticism” or “apparently embarrassing issues” in Parliament.”[/quote]真金不怕红炉火。If whiter than white, not scare pple question how white.

unless.. standards have eroded?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837588https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837588Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:05:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to “You have been robbed, dear Singaporeans” – Budget 2018 on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 13:34:54 GMT]]>Hmmm, we’re not legal eagles yet we were clear govt did not intend for immediate raise of GST when announcements were 1st made. GOOD.


So, it wld be very clear SL/WP suspicious intent to kick dusts of suspicions & yet some public can let her off so easy on such level of devious words & after found out will not apologize? There’s deep reasons for that request for apologies if one were to use Parliamentary privilege for defaming when there is NO BASIS & yr response made it clearer tt SL (with her legal bkgrd) made her unsupported accusations with knowledge. What she didn’t expect was to be taken to task for the abuse of privilege & stoking political fire to score points under veil of ‘speaking out’ for ppl as elected MP. What she didn’t expect was not every individual let a wolf off for ano day to cry foul again.

I think it’s OK, if ppl let her off easy. It’s on records she didn’t apologize & if Opp/WP raise this issue again in next GE, u’ll see the impact of loosing good leaders. I feel terribly sad we’ve become the over-indulgent parent, letting a strong-willed child say "ya, I know u’re right now & I mistakenly said sth that was not right", … "BUT I’ll NOT apologize"… "I’ll not retract what I’ve said" …

I think I almost hear her say "what can you do to me? Ha, ha!!" I’ve got some ppl I can hide behind telling me not to apologize & I won’t even if I’m wrong." "There, so what if u’re right?".

We’re all getting soft.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837561https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1837561Sun, 11 Mar 2018 13:34:54 GMT