Joanne13\" post_id=\"1914219\" time=\"1560337927\" user_id=\"88592:

Dear all

Have not many friends so thot of vent out here.. Will u let your hubby go massage himself?
As we know .. massage is usually done by girl.. Will u restrict him fr going?
Recently I find hubby go massage frequent as he has nothing much to do when have off day or when kids go to enrichment class..
But one month twice seems too much for me n being thrifty.. he spends $60 each 1.5 hour massage.
And that day I accidentally saw he create Wechat acct and inside only have one friend who is a girl and name of girl is massage lady.
I thot there is no communication inside is ok for pass few months until last night I saw he take the initiative to say good morning to her after he goes massage on Mon and we just go another one last Tuesday but different shop. Necessary to keep go within one week?
Lucky there is no reply fr the massage lady yet. But I am shock and sad.. can't sleep last night.. though not much communication between he and the girl but moment he will add her Contact and communicate with her Sadden me alot..

I thinking of confront him but he may say why I peek his phone. So I thot of act blur use his phone infront of him and act like accidentally saw it.. now I thinking of try my luck asks him can he dun keep go same place massage as dun feel good.. but worry he may piss off and say I dun trust him.. hence wonder do u allow hubby go massage himself at the same shop every time? Just need some suggestion now on what should I do as I am very sad whole day n no one to confide to...:( can I still trust him next time? Before it gets worsen.. feel I better do something now..

Please help me..Thk u for any reply.

I honestly don't see any problem here. Massage is actually very good for your body and can even promote healthier sex life.

I guess the main thought here is that, what kind of massage shop is that? Those sleazy ones or just from those in a mall/ neighborhood. If it's the latter, I think it is fine, let him be. If it's the former, that could be some possible marital issue in the future.

I think nothin wrong with it. It is just the way of life and men do in their own personal time. In fact, I think it could greatly benefit women because the guy will have more ideas with different s3x positions that may satisfy their spouse!

verykiasumummy:

KSP:

alamak!!! bought nasi lemak for bf this morning and login here hoping for more nasi kangkang story to read...


see lah, see lah scold, scold, scold and scold.... now we got no more free entertainiment liao....

looks like i got to eat nasi briyani for lunch alone.....

i've been hailing valvestate to return but he nv respond...

hailing valvestate, hail hail hail... come back please...

wo deng zhe ni hui lai... wo deng zhe ni hui lai...

wo xiang zhe ni hui lai... wo xiang zhe ni hui lai...

Hey mums. I'm back! I was just very busy in work and some stuff. I admit that I got guilty in my last posts here so I had to lay off a while.

chloecube:

think he's frighten to come back here to get lashing again

yeah... in a way.

Anyhow, I know you've all waiting for the update for my story. This might be a long post..

I've been noticing in the past few days that I've become so indulge in thinking about her that I'm starting to lag in my daily tasks in the office. My faith has also been greatly tainted in the sense that our Church became with a feeling of emptiness and strong guilt inside. I had to stop. Thank you all for all your posts, it really helped me A LOT.

So we had a company night out a few weeks back in some bar in the City area. I had to attend since most of the managers were also there and most our team. I actually honestly hoped that she was not there since I was avoiding her IMs or anything that can evoke contact with her. So... I went there, then saw some of colleagues and had some drinks... it was a relief that she was not there. Then 9:30pm came... then the men turned to a lady I was trying to avoid. My mouth dropped... he was wearing a black tight skimpy black dress, cleavage visible, with very high heels! I wonders how can she walk like that.??! She glanced quickly at me, smiled, waved and sat on another table. She was with another 2 ladies, looks like a local or maybe PRC, other one an Indian... but they're equally sexy! The other men there were like oogling at them... My colleagues on the table was like \"man, shé is hot tonight...\" and almost all of them agree... except me. I wanted to look but... decided not to.. it's almost midnight, we were still happily drinking, some Karaoke's .. men were getting drunk, I'm also feeling a bit intoxicated now. Some were already dancing with men.. hilarious! I haven't been drinking for years now, I thought! .... Then, she went to our table.... \"what's up guys...? We're starting to get bored with those guys sitting at the other table trying to impress us\" She was referencing to some white (ang mo?) men sitting nearby them which I don't think she was interested with. She leaned in to me... \"Are you enjoying yourself?\" Her strong perfume blew me away...it was so sweet smelling and I catched her eyes, glistening at me.... her long black hair smells so wonderful. I replied \"yeah, what a night... our big boss' doing a gangnam style dance\" she laughed. I forgot how beautiful she is since it's been a while from the last time we had a lunch date. My heart was pounding. \"Oh, I want you guys to meet (name), she's from another department whom I met and also... \" She introduced the ladies she was with... I believe she's a local but she speaks English (brit) . Short haired Chinese, wearing a black tank top outfit, super fit black pants... The other Indian lady who was also very gorgeous, she's not the traditional Indian women wearing those dress we often see around. I guess she's already modernized, she speaks very fluent brit accent, perhaps she's raised in UK. The men were awestruck. So we started chatting and all that... her friend was surprisingly very smart and cheerful to chat with as well but the PRC is still much more stunning! So we were all chatting... beers, food are overflowing! I chuckled, \"who will pay for this!\" The friends of the PRC invited my colleagues to dance while some of us were left at the table. I said to them \"I can only dance exotic... not those silly disco 70's music\" They laughed. I forgot that she's there...the seat beside me where empty... she sat beside me.... I felt like melting again..I felt hot! Maybe 5 or 10 bottles we were drinking had a toll on me. I bet she also had a lot of beers, margarita's by the way she talks and a bit slurry words.... some of my colleague's were not minding the others anymore, they're also drunk it seems and just talking among the people near them. The music is becoming too loud for me. Me & the PRC were happily drinking... she had to always talk loudly on my ears making her body closer to me... feels tingly inside. I said to myself intoxicated but I'm still sane.... I think. Boundaries is boundaries... limitations... I keep repeating. The night I guess is just starting... I saw my colleagues already hugging those ladies...I said to myself... 'waaat' Those men were single anyway so what the heck... lucky for them. I said to her, \"finally, somebody will get laid!\" she smiled... \"I think someone will also be happy tonight\" I
didn't get that... drinks are getting into my head. I was wearing a coat & tie at that time, she told me \"you look so formal.. we are not in the office anymore, you know\" She removed my coat and loosened my tie... I was embarrassed with the team but they were not minding us. \"now you look better\" I'm beginning to feel relaxed as night goes by... Then my colleagues went back to our table and their hands are around those ladies... \"hey boss, you don't mind us hitting the road right...\" they were laughing. These guys were already drunk... . the ladies are a bit tipsy as well... I said \" I don;t you think you can drive anymore\" The ladies interrupted, \"no worries, we can drive... we'll make sure that these boys will be safe and sound\" They chuckled. Her another chinese friend whispered something in Chinese lingo that I didn't hear and they both laughed... I wondered what that is. So they headed off... a few of us were still there... having our last cheers. It's almost 2:00am, I told them, \"Ok guys, I need to leave now... it's getting late, I still have duties\" They laughed. She was also tipsy and very drunk. I told them \"would you guys mind to drop her off at her place...\" She interrupted. \"No I'm heading home as well.... you can drop me off right?\" She was smiling at me... Can I say no? I wanted her to be safe...

We went to the parking area, she almost can't barely walk anymore. I think she almost drank the whole barrel!!I had to hold her arms... \"thanks, you're sweet\" I just stared. She feels hot but she still smells very good... I told myself \"you are crossing the line...\" So I opened the door for her, she said \"very nice car you got here....\" It cost me me an arm and a leg to purchase that. She laughed. \"I was not joking... \" So I asked her where she is staying. She said that \"somewhere in Somerset\" and she gave me the exact address. She was just staring outside while I was driving. I joked \"wow... this is the first time that you became quite for the whole night!\" She just smiled... but not looking at me, just staring outside the window. We were almost near the area. Then she sighed ...then started speaking in a low, murmuring tone.

\"you are avoiding me for days now...\"
.... I was like \"huh?\"
\"Why are you not answering my emails nor instant messages??\"
.... I was quite
\"Why are you always out of your office?\"
you're just drunk I said...
\"Answer me, why are you avoiding me......\"

I see that she is not joking at all... she's still staring at the window but demanding some answers.... then I didn't noticed that she fell asleep. I took my coat and put it on her... the dress is very revealing. :oops:
I asked her for which building she is... we entered into a fancy condominium area. I told her \"wow, how can you afford this??\" She was still sleeping. I parked, I opened her door. I gently tapped her to wake up. She said \"sorry... \" \"can you help me out here please...\" it seems that she's still not in herself to stand by herself. I had to hold her by her shoulders... we went to the lift and into her apartment. Nice place I told her... it's a very modern apartment, very clean... even nicer with my humbly small HDB flat! I told her \"Ok then, have a great weekend... bye!\" \"Wait!\" she said \"maybe just drink a few coffee with me before you leave... it will make you feel better, you had lots of beer as well\" I was like.. oh man... wifey's not in SG together with my kid at that time due to some wedding of her friend in New Zealand and will be back on Sunday. I said \"ok... just for a few minutes then... Im already tired. I was a long night\" She was very happy when I mentioned that. So we talk...I guess the coffee helped her, she is much more herself again. Then she excused herself saying that she needed to just do something. So I was left... I was looking at her place. I was surprised indeed that it was very clean, her pictures everywhere, very cute poses, her family, I saw that she has a nice guitar lying around!! ... I told myself \"this is quite expensive, US made\" I felt pity for the guitar not being taken care of properly. I held the 'Taylor' guitar and played some ballad and sang some tunes. Then I heard her say \"you really do play well...\" I turned my head and saw her wearing a short shorts used for sleeping and and some white silky top... my JAW literally dropped. :yikes: :slapshead: I felt the same tingling sensation inside.... i said to myself... NO. NO. NO. \"you liked the coffee?\" she's smiling... her hair's now untied and with no make up, she is more beautiful and natural. She sat on the couch near me while my jaw was still opened (LOL) \"play again the song you were singing... i like that\"... I was like a robot. It's been a while since I was with a woman other than my wife... and this is not an ordinary, she is stunningly beautiful. \"HEY! Have you seen a ghost? why are you starring at me... you look like a dog drooling!\" She laughed out loud. I just grimaced... She took the guitar from me and she started very hard to play... it's a disgrace with this 2,000 dollars worth of guitar to be in the hands of this woman, I said to myself!! :? I showed her how to make a few chords and her fingers... I held her hands, fingers... it felt very soft... She pushed me back while she put back the Acoustic on the other couch...\"enough of this playing\" she said smiling.... \"I know you like me....\" I was dumbstruck! She lay on top of me whispering...\"do you think I'm stupid not to notice how you look at me ever since I reported to the office.... how you were looking at me earlier this evening... I know you are fantasizing about me..\" My mind were going into like 300kph!! This is NOT happening... I can still see her pretty face even at the dim light in her apartment... my mind was racing... she is very near me and her FACE her lips almost into me... I was like? Is this a dream?!?! A movie? What's the punchline on this?

Then, I remembered my family.


I pushed her away... I dunno how strong that was but, for her small stature, it was very easy even with my one hand. \"PLEASE Stop! I'm sorry...this was a VERY big mistake...\" I was standing. She was on the couch still shocked... \"I am a married guy with a daughter, please let's not do this... I love them very much\" I then explained to her that I was wrong in the very first place when I started sending her an SMS, having lunch and dates with her. She started shouting at me... some in Chinese... telling me a liar and all that... That I was just pretending not to like her... I was shocked with what's happening! her mood became more calmer She is telling me if she't not pretty enough for me... she then asked if she is hotter than my wife. .. what kind of a question is that? She started crying.................... I felt somewhat guilty. I made these mess :oops: She then started saying how her previous BF just used her and all that yada yada...... I was really not listening, I just wanted to go home and rest and get over these. She went over me again and begged not to leave that she will do everything I want to her.... Oh man... I'm beginning to think that she had gone berserk. She needed help. but not from me...

I hurriedly walked out.... she was shouting, crying...

I was in the parking area then I felt that I left something... D*mn. My wallet! I remembered that, I had to put it on her table when I took out my guitar pick! I received an SMS \"Left something?\" with a smiley emoticon. What the heck................. I had to return back.my IC and Driver's license was there. She opened the door smiling... \"why do you have this in your wallet?\" WHAT DA... she was holding a protective thingy.... shucks... it was like there for ages..... I never change things inside, I have lots of receipts, Credit cards there some pics... I don;t even know that it is still there. I asked her where's my wallet... She smiled again \"I'm asking you why do you have this.... you want it do you\" I even wondered how in the heck did she scourge with my personal things.... I'm dealing with a psycho it seems. \"When was the last time you had it\" \"yesterday!! Please give me back my wallet!!!!\"\"I shouted... she told me that I'm a liar since she knows that my wife is out of the country... how did she know that??? Anyhow, with lots of shouting at her... with no profanity... she gave in. \"

\"we are not yet done...\" she told me...

I had chills with those words.

I hurriedly went back home... then slept and prayed that those never happened.

It was a bright Saturday morning the next day, I woke up very late... I was glad that I didn't receive any SMS or what.. I said, maybe it was just a dream. I asked maid to cook something for me..., I checked my wife how are they....


**** To be continued.................

All right… all right.


Apologies if I over reacted. Let me just work this out and update this thread.

Thank you very much again for you the overwhelming response. I really-really appreciate this.

BeContented:

You ARE enjoying yourself.
You ARE happily making all sorts of excuse to spend time with her. :spank:
You ARE Definitely enjoying yourself reading all the responses from us

If yours is a real case, my last posting here cos I can't bear to read it anymore. Good luck to your family.

If it's not, you have fun.

Hmm... now, this response is a bit uncalled for. Pardon me but, did you really read my post and understand it or just quickly glanced it?

I guess I'm just enjoying the company but that's IT. And what's with \"You ARE Definitely enjoying yourself reading all the responses from us\" I'm glad that you are all participating in this thread but this is not for personal enjoyment but rather to just express out my feelings on this public random people on the net. Am I touching her or making any move... NO. Am I starting a flirtatious relationship? I guess NOT. Especially with what we've just conversed earlier.

Just wow... unsure which emoticon I need to use here.

12:01...


PRC didn't dropped me any messages asking me out for lunch so I was a bit relieved but I would honestly say that I was waiting for her. :oops:

12:02pm..

Walked past my desk, stopped and she asked hurriedly \"you want to go out for lunch or you'll just take it later?\".... split second decision... should I or not................................................................. I saw her nice sweet eyes... I was weak.

Some other guys were at the lobby and I asked them where they are goin', and they said \"Carl's... \" I was thinking that it would be a good excuse for them to be with us but I don't feel like eating burgers especially in a very heavy food in Carl's Jr. I asked her, \"you like to eat burgers...?\" She was like \"... no... you?\" I was honest to say that I also didn't like to go there so we parted ways with the other 2 guys. We were about to go up to Food Court but I was thinking that we always go there so I offered Yoshinoya instead in which she much preferred. When I was about to pay, she said \"Don't worry about it, it's on me\" I hesitated since it's not our culture that a woman will pay for our meal but I thought, \"I paid for our previous meals so...\" I just joked around \"We should have went to more expensive restaurant, not this fast food.\" She just smiled \"yeah....\" The sweetness of her smile's killing me so I'm trying not to look at her too much. I'm starting to feel more 'comfy' to her in the sense that I can be just a friend to her.

We started talking, she was a fast eater, a bit turn off for me but maybe that's just the way she is. She didn't order any drinks since she said that \"Miso soup is enough\" Odd for me, maybe it's a Chinese culture in eating that I don't get. I had Sprite. Anyhow, it's a pretty relax moment... we started talking about how she is on handling our cases in office then the topic about relationships opened. How she only had a BF for like 6 months back in China in a long distance relationship that they just talk everyday but don't meet too much so they had to end it.. that was 4 years ago. She asked about my wife how I met her and I told her that it was similar to her that we were in a long distance relationship but were dating for several years. I think she was ok with this conversation and then we came into discussion about marriage that she prefers to be alone (single). I told her that she's just alone because the \"circumstance of some guy approaching you is zero\" but she said that there's some China architect guy is trying to win her for a while now but she doesn't like him. She said that she doesn't see the point of getting married at an early age, she's 26. At this point of our conversation with our relationship, I guess I'm beginning to know her more. I'm actually becoming to be more of an adviser at this time telling her to actually 'look for you goal in life instead of just saving money with no clear resolution what you want'.

I'm actually much better now that she's opening up more about herself. I still admit that whenever she smile or when I look at her, there's still a bit of physical attraction. I still feel though that there's something more about her, she mentioned as well that she's actually \"Childish\" but she's composed when we speak most of the time... perhaps due to boss / subordinate relationship but today was a bit different.

How do you women digest what happened today?

Spiderlily:

Anyway, we are side tracking. Valveestate's saga continues.

Nah, it's all right. Sidetracking is good to also hear some similar stories and learn how to avoid those situation.

Joule:

oh preeze la, I learned guitar after sec sch to pick up girls.

It really works.

Then they would clamour up to you and say 'come on, teach me this song, teach me!'

hahahhaha those were nice days.

I din know it was still useful in the corporate world, hahahahahah

Haha. Yeah, back in Secondary, really easy to impress a girl when I play their favorite cheesy love song. Yes, it works... :evil: Will this work in a corporate world? We'll see how ah... kiddin.

peapot:

My office has many of such affairs going on too. Most married though. My ex-company also the same. 65 years old boss got involved with 50 years old admin woman. Now this company also the same. Married men involved with married woman. So common...don't know what to say anymore. when the accounts girl ignore him, the man got so upset and keep playing love songs in the office. He even stand near the window looking out at ECP. YES, my office is in Tanjong Pagar!! I thought he was going to jump down.

This is really hilarious! That is pathetic! I'll never be like that.

Now, since we are in the topic of general flirting, office romance, I just remembered that my previous boss before was trying to win the heart of our fairly new pretty foreigner employee we had. My malay-local boss is single as well as the lady. Though the thing is, the lady does not have any thing with my boss at all... saying that he's yucky and too fat and she will just commit suicide instead of dating him. My boss even went to the extent that when we arrive in the office, we all have red roses on our table with sweet messages! I guess that is her way of winning and impressing the girl...and giving her the best roses! He kept on asking her out but maybe they went out for once but I don;t think anything materialized until my boss resigned and the lady got sacked for poor performance.
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Btw, temptation is arising again....She arrived quarter to 8 and wearing this short 'bloom' skirt with black stockings and nice dress. I really don't want to look anymore but her sweet scent makes me mesmerize. She dropped me a chat saying that she has some issues with her PC so I had to walk over then, I looked into her chinky eyes and sweet smile just makes me weak... she said that \"Oh there's no issues anymore...\" I went back to my desk then we started to chat again.............................. :oops:

On the good side, yesterday was quite manageable, no SMS, no lunch. So I'm hoping that it will be quite and slow today.

verykiasumummy:

its no point guessing the identity of whoever speaks or gives advices in this forum... no matter who they are, the purpose of coming online is to have some reservations about their identity so that they wun get identified in real life...

Yeah. you got it right. Not unless Kiasu has a grand meeting? :evil:

Valvestate's the name of a model of a Marshall Guitar Amplifier that my parents gave me on '94 which I'm still using every week in the band.

To Joule. Very interesting points about me.

1) we both are PMET <-- I'm sorry what's this.

2) heart language is English <--- Correct, but I'm, not an ang-mo in anyway, the PRC lady actually commented that I still look like a Chinese. I find the Singlish very interesting but I can't speak it fluently eventhough I try very hard I still fail in immitating the local lingo. Sounds off when I do the the lah, leh, mah alamak!

3) should be in 30s <--- Correct

I don't play much computer games anymore but I used to play a lot when I was still in college.. but yes, I'm very much aware about Counter Strike! Now, I only play Pumpkins vs Monsters on my Samsung. Lame... but fun.

I have more than 9 years experience in the I.T. industry. I hope I'm not divulging too much information here about myself.

Speaking of guitar playing... PRC lady mentioned that she will be buying a guitar after she saves and he will ask me to teach her. Yay... or nay.

KSP:

oh man!!! this thread is like HK or Kr TV serial, can't help but keep coming here to find out what happen in the next episode.... got hook to this story line liao...


valvestate, are u going lunch with the prc today?

I know, right? LOL. This was my very first time to confess something on the internet since I started using PC on 1999.

No, thank GOD. She told me yesterday that she will take an early lunch at 11am. I also told her that we'll not lunch since I have a meeting.

Spiderlily:

Is valve estate having us on? I dunno. Anyway, I joined just to post on this, because sounds so much like what I went through on the wifey's side, but no PRC involved.

If this is for real...I will be very surprised if V's wife does not sense that something is amiss.

Wifey's extremely sweet last night... just laying on my lap while using iPad, but I don't suspect that she knows something. I mean the woman doesn't really send me any SMS until I do so...

UPDATE:
Just had my lunch with other managers so all is well for now.

Tomorrow, we'll have a Karaoke party, lots of drinking... everybody will be there. I need to let myself composed and remind myself not to jump on her... :slapshead: