anyone received the official letter from SNGS yet ? I am still waiting for mine.

Blue Dolphin:

jtoh:

[quote=\"phankao\"]
I guess schools like SNGS, CHS & SCGS are still bound by the rule of 10% of their maximum vacancy level then. Which in this case is 30. So this \"rule\" has not been allowed to be relaxed by MOE even with introduction of IP. These 3 schools have to abide by this ruling bc they are not independent schools, unlike RI, etc. Oh well. No wonder CHS for eg. Only opened DSA for sports & IP and closed up all the previous DSA domains (via other CCA). Bc they cannot offer that many places. All along 30 places for DSA, now STILL 30 places.

phttph ----> for IP DSA, they don't look to see whether from affiliated. Whoever is worthy is the key. They don't *reserve* for affiliated at all during DSA.

If I'm not mistaken, IP schools can now offer DSA up to 50% of their intake.

If it is indeed correct that SNGS DSA 30 or so places, then would it not have been a waste of resources for the school and parents?

It would be reasonable to assume that most if not all of the 30 successful students would have also DSA other schools in similar tier (e.g. NJC, SCGS, Ceda, MGS, etc) or better ones (e.g. RGS and NYGH). Some of the successful ones may choose SNGS and some may not; surely those who have CO or WL from RGS and NYGS would reasonably not. Some would have also CO from other similar tier schools and decide to not choose SNGS, let's say 50-50. Thus, that would leave a small percentage of the 30 successful students eventually taking up the offer. So the school has expended much effort to recruit 8 or 10 or 12 students through DSA (12 out of a cohort of 180 IP, ~7%).

As a parent, if it was made known that there would only be 30 places, instead of the \"up to 50%, i.e. 90 or so\" places, then surely it would have made a significant impact on the decision to DSA SNGS; precious time, effort and hope could have been better spent.

Perhaps it was a test-run for SNGS management? :?[/quote]
I couldn't agree more with you !!

Am I correct to say that with more places available at S1 posting stage, we can expect a lower COP?[/quote]


I don’t think so, the COP for the IP would still be 250[/quote]

If not wrong, last year’s lowest COP for IP school is RV at 254. So 250 is considered low for IP…cedar o level was 249 last yr?[/quote]
I also think that 250 is bit low for COP for IP. IP is generally meant for top ~7% of the cohort and 250 is the T score for the top 10%.[/quote]
The IP is not meant to be an elite prog that’s what the SNGS principal said . Both the IP track n the O level tracks hv their own merits n cater to diff learning styles

g2:

SNGS will hv around 190 places for its IP programme and about the same number of places for its O level programme . So since they hv offered only less than 30 places out of 190 available places through the DSA exercise, looking on the bright side, those who did not get the COs have quite a high chance of filling up the remaining 160 or so places in the IP programme ....so Jia you to all our DDs!

Am I correct to say that with more places available at S1 posting stage, we can expect a lower COP?[/quote]

I don't think so, the COP for the IP would still be 250

phankao:

jtoh:

[quote=\"mrschan\"]SCGS sec is an independent school.

It is offering 100 places for its ip track. As to many for dsa, I don't hv the numbers.

That's what I'd heard too. That's why I assumed SNGS would be offering a similar number too. Quite surprised to hear that SNGS is offering 200 IP places while SCGS is offering only 100.

SNGS 200??? that would be nearly it's entire intake for one year already.[/quote]SNGS will hv around 190 places for its IP programme and about the same number of places for its O level programme . So since they hv offered only less than 30 places out of 190 available places through the DSA exercise, looking on the bright side, those who did not get the COs have quite a high chance of filling up the remaining 160 or so places in the IP programme ....so Jia you to all our DDs!

phankao:

g2:

SNGS informed me that they could admit up to 3 classes for IP.

Then that should be around 90-100 places.

SNGS has 6 classes for the IP programme n they can admit up to 50% through DSA. However the school chose to admit only less than 30 or less than one third of the available places. It was solely the school's decision and discretion.

g2:

fantasy1:

So disappointed to hear that the sch only have offered such a limited vacancies (less than 30) . The DSA process for SNGS is really tedious.

Received the rejection letter from SNGS. My dd had her interview on 15/8 which was on the eve of PSLE oral. I called to reschedule the interview to a later date but was told that they could not schedule anything beyond that week as there is a stipulated time frame fr moe for the DSA process. But from earlier posts, interviews were conducted early this week. If we had been informed of the limited vacancies, we may reconsider attending the interview session. :mad:

Dear g2,my DD also had her interview on 15 Aug just one day before the PSLE oral. Among DD's friends who applied for SNGS DSA IP, only a handful were shortlisted. So I guess it's quite a big disappointment to find out that only less than 30 of the 90 plus IP places (50% of the expected no. for the IP cohort next yr) were offered . I thought that the school should have given out more provisional offers if they were indeed worried about how well the students would do in their PSLE

kiasumeme:

SCGS results out via email. Niece received CO :rahrah:

:congrats:

mamakata:

phtthp:

[quote=\"fantasy1\"]So disappointed to hear that the sch only have offered such a limited vacancies (less than 30) .

The DSA process for SNGS is really tedious.

SNGS DSA offer less than 30.

i)
out of 30 -
how many allocated to SNGS own affliated primary girls, how many to outsiders ?

ii)
how many seats from SCGS DSA - also less than 30 ?
how many allocated to SCGS own affliated primary school girls first ?

iii)
how many seats from MGS DSA ?
how many allocated to MGS own affliated primary school girls first ?[M/quote]

When I went to the MGS open day, was informed that the DSA-IP will take only up to 30 girls as the total IP size is only 60. Forgot to ask at SCGS - anybody knows?

For all the IP programmes at the full schools, I believe the affiliated primary school girls have to compete for the places the same as non-affiliated girls. They only get preference (ie lower COP) for the O-level track.

[/quote]At least MGS told parents upfron it was 30 vs 60 available IP places (reasonable since that is 50%). Seems like SnGS gave the impression that they would be filling up to 3 classes (half of the IP classes) through DSA but in the end they only offered less than 30 places

g2:

jtoh:

[quote=\"fantasy1\"]MOE DSA-sec website states that all the IP schs admitted up to 50% of the sec 1 intake thru the DSA-sec exe. Wondered why SNGS only offered such limited places (lesss than 30)?

The SNGS intake for IP is probably <100? Or maybe <80 (ie two classes worth). So COs of about 30 is not too far off from 50% of 80 or 100 vacancies.

6 IP classes 5 o level. I spoke to the Sch on 15/8 n was told they can take up to 3 classes and that they have not reached the maximum and are not \" picky\". Looks like there's a change of heart[/quote]
No the IP classes n O level classes about half half , about 190 for each side . So if half the intake from DSA the number of vacancies should be around 90 plus ....so the actual no of places offered was way too low