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    DSA 2023

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
      Zeal mummy
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      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2098125\" time=\"1676709072\" user_id=\"188234:

      No need to flame. You pound the table a lot and happen to be wrong more than you probably think (sometimes in a big way). We just let it be 😄 .

      BTW, what is your understanding of the two cohort sizes and what is your definition of similar or not similar as it relates to RI's cohort size? That was what I was originally interested in. Note, this is not asking whether the comparison is useless or at best incomplete given the rough statistics both schools provide. A cohort size could be similar and the absolute number of students achieving whatever could be different due to a) high 50s to low 60s vs. 6 out of 10 and b) a range of cohort sizes. I was never talking about absolute numbers of students achieving this or that.
      I feel like Floppy was triggered by someone who said one school has more “value add” than the other.

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        Swc\" post_id=\"2098129\" time=\"1676710150\" user_id=\"178585:

        2023 J1 intake for HCI is 1089. While I do not have the specific figure for RI, you mentioned 2022 J2 for RI is 1126. So I feel the difference in terms of cohort size should be at most 100. In reality, probably fewer than 100.
        RI has published that 1126 is the number of students who took A-levels in 2022. We don’t know the number for HCI, they also did not state the mean of this cohort.

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          Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2098132\" time=\"1676710330\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2098132 time=1676710330 user_id=58173]
          RI has published that 1126 is the number of students who took A-levels in 2022. We don’t know the number for HCI, they also did not state the mean of this cohort.[/quote]
          I know 2023 J1 cohort size is not direct comparison to 2022 J2 size. But cohort size should not differ too much from year to year so the difference between RI and HCI in terms of cohort size is probably just around 100.

          The mean of 2022 HCI A level cohort is 85. HCI sent an email to its students to announce this.

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          • floppyF Offline
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            SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2098125\" time=\"1676709072\" user_id=\"188234:

            …
            BTW, what is your understanding of the two cohort sizes and what is your definition of similar or not similar as it relates to RI's cohort size?
            …
            In the absolute sense, 1,126 would be similar. However, a difference of 2.5% each way (ie +- 30) would, arguably, be considered similar. However, a 10% difference each way (which is +-100) cannot be seen as similar, no matter how lax we wanna be about the term.

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            • Zeal mummyZ Offline
              Zeal mummy
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              Swc\" post_id=\"2098133\" time=\"1676710516\" user_id=\"178585:

              I know 2023 J1 cohort size is not direct comparison to 2022 J2 size. But cohort size should not differ too much from year to year so the difference between RI and HCI in terms of cohort size is probably just around 100.

              The mean of 2022 HCI A level cohort is 85. HCI sent an email to its students to announce this.
              Not talking about cohort size. That (1126) was the number of students who took A-levels in RI. We still don’t know the exact number of student from HCI who took the A-levels. Cohort size is the number of students the school takes in; it does not mean that everyone would take the A-levels.

              The mean for HCI was not published. However, thanks for sharing the good news!

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              • bbbayB Offline
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                Swc\" post_id=\"2098129\" time=\"1676710150\" user_id=\"178585:

                2023 J1 intake for HCI is 1089. While I do not have the specific figure for RI, you mentioned 2022 J2 for RI is 1126. So I feel the difference in terms of cohort size should be at most 100. In reality, probably fewer than 100.

                What I heard from the HCI principal was, number students are around 300 to 350 from each of the 3 sources (HCI high, NYG , JAE) so total cohort size work out to be around 900 to 1050. If your source says 1089, probably this year they take in more?

                It seem like, if in any particular year these 2 colleges intake deviate by 50 students towards each other, then it could well be within 100 students difference only. Maybe more often than not the intake numbers will swing by big margin

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                • CCK2008C Offline
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                  My colleague just told me his son who got his result from HCI yesterday said 2022 cohort size is 1095 students. Student council member, so he knew.


                  Still lesser than RI

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                    Congratulations to the Class of 2022 on their impressive achievements at the A-Level Examinations. Great effort and excellent results from both top schools! (Both schools published their results on the same day on 17 February 2023)


                    http://www.ri.edu.sg/highlights/story/gce-a-level-results-release-class-of-2022-a-spirit-of-excellence-a-heart-for-the-community?fbclid=IwAR0lmAyv1GSrFhuzoJn8A7zpmaV39vLCpnKjdPMmOQlGG6JKtMBZwr_HsTI

                    https://www.hci.edu.sg/news/class-of-2022-overcomes-formidable-challenges-to-demonstrate-holistic-excellence

                    Let’s celebrate!

                    As a few KSPs have pointed out, RI does have more students taking the A-levels and hence the results given in percentage would be an estimation/guideline if one would compare them. At medium of 88 for both schools, impressive results! (there’s no need to fight tooth and nail).. Each school has its own merits. HCI has better results for Chinese and Math, whereas RI did better in GP and Sciences.

                    All the best to all who are keen to DSA!

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                    • bbbayB Offline
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                      Reply from two J1 students from these colleges:

                      2023 J1 intake:
                      - HCI: “about” 1050
                      - RI: 1182, he thinks

                      … for our academic/technical discussion

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                        bbbay\" post_id=\"2098137\" time=\"1676711253\" user_id=\"175278:

                        What I heard from the HCI principal was, number students are around 300 to 350 from each of the 3 sources (HCI high, NYG , JAE) so total cohort size work out to be around 900 to 1050. If your source says 1089, probably this year they take in more?

                        It seem like, if in any particular year these 2 colleges intake deviate by 50 students towards each other, then it could well be within 100 students difference only. Maybe more often than not the intake numbers will swing by big margin
                        FYI: NYGH cohort is close to 400 each year

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