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    DSA 2023

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • John MemekJ Offline
      John Memek
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      AriIzziMix\" post_id=\"2117710\" time=\"1693297932\" user_id=\"202675:

      Hi there,

      I m new to all this as it’s my first time experiencing the DSA. Just want to check when submitting the choices, do we get to submit more than one school? For example, if she gets a WL for school A but CO for school B but we would still like to try her for school A. If she is not accepted into school A, can she still enter school B since it’s a CO? Would the CO still stand or she would missed the chance?
      Hi there

      You can refer to FAQ on Moe website on School submission.
      Here is the extract:

      https://postimg.cc/WdNv7RrF

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      • Bentley88B Offline
        Bentley88
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        anxious789\" post_id=\"2117674\" time=\"1693285966\" user_id=\"202673:

        #1 Actually, I have no idea what's the statistic for #1. How likely it is to get into IB (ACSI / SJI) via the SEC (O) track? How many slots are there available for SEC students since they already have their own IB 6 years track students? Where can we find the statistics?

        Also, prob need to call up the local international schools to find out what's their criteria for joining IB in Year 11.

        Lastly, would a SEC (O) track students have less advantage academically compared to those that join IB since year 1 in MGS/ASC/SJI since they would not have been exposed to the IB curriculum since Sec 1? Would they struggle in IB in year 5/6 compared to those who join in year 1?

        #2 - all same domain (academic)
        For ACS International and SJI International, do take note the school fees will be more than $35K per year.

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          anxious789
          last edited by

          OIC, am not aware it doesn't include data set for for students entering via DSA and my bad for stating SEC cut off is 4-8 when it's 6-8.


          If someone gets AL6 from non-affiliated primary school, what's the consideration for choosing SEC over IP at other schools like NYGH/SCGS/NJC/SNGS? Can also go into MGS IB/RGS IP assuming don't get balloted out at 6. With AL6, definitely meet the cut off point for many IP schools so I thought the consideration for picking SEC is to keep the option open after end of 4 years as there are many more post-sec options like taking IB/A levels locally/overseas or taking pre-u overseas when the child is more matured and more likely to know what she/he wants at 16 vs now at 12 years old to decide on the particular JC now by joining IP/IB.

          I saw some overseas pre-uni foundation states entry requirement with O level results, hence I thought at least require O level results to apply so by going IB/IP route might close off this option. I supposed maybe some pre-u only require their own admission test. Can share which pre-u for me to do more research? Thanks.

          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2117714\" time=\"1693298912\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2117714 time=1693298912 user_id=53606]From School Finder
          MGS IB track: 4-6
          MGS SEC (O level track): 6-8 (non-affiliates); 7-17 (affiliates)

          Students who entered via DSA are not included in the data set above. It only reports the PSLE score of students entering via Sec 1 posting exercise.

          Even if she goes IB track (or any other IP school), via S1 posting or via DSA, if she wants to go overseas (eg for foundation studies etc) she can just leave. All she needs to do is secure the overseas seat first, whether via entrance test or discretionary admission (if they have such thing). So the “keeping options open by choosing O level track” argument doesnt really hold water.[/quote]

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          • 00skyblue000 Offline
            00skyblue00
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            anxious789\" post_id=\"2117707\" time=\"1693296734\" user_id=\"202673:



            When I ask her which route she prefer, she said don't ask me now, I need to concentrate on studying for PSLE which is 1 month away and goes back to doing her schoolwork.
            I like your girl's attitude! Well done. :rahrah:

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            • 00skyblue000 Offline
              00skyblue00
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              anxious789\" post_id=\"2117717\" time=\"1693300689\" user_id=\"202673:

              OIC, am not aware it doesn't include data set for for students entering via DSA and my bad for stating SEC cut off is 4-8 when it's 6-8.

              If someone gets AL6 from non-affiliated primary school, what's the consideration for choosing SEC over IP at other schools like NYGH/SCGS/NJC/SNGS? Can also go into MGS IB/RGS IP assuming don't get balloted out at 6. With AL6, definitely meet the cut off point for many IP schools so I thought the consideration for picking SEC is to keep the option open after end of 4 years as there are many more post-sec options like taking IB/A levels locally/overseas or taking pre-u overseas when the child is more matured and more likely to know what she/he wants at 16 vs now at 12 years old to decide on the particular JC now by joining IP/IB.

              I saw some overseas pre-uni foundation states entry requirement with O level results, hence I thought at least require O level results to apply so by going IB/IP route might close off this option. I supposed maybe some pre-u only require their own admission test. Can share which pre-u for me to do more research? Thanks.
              Other posters can correct me.

              Long long ago, before IP, many top students can score very well in O levels and some disappeared, to better lands after. So then someone came up with IP and skip O (can keep more at home, only speculation...lol)

              I have not research abt it but I heard that O levels can open opportunities overseas definitely. Depending on which country and unis. some have bridging pre entry. Good luck!

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              • A Offline
                AriIzziMix
                last edited by

                Ahh…Thank everyone for the clarification! It helps me a lot in choosing the school when time comes.

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                • zac's mumZ Offline
                  zac's mum
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                  anxious789\" post_id=\"2117717\" time=\"1693300689\" user_id=\"202673:

                  OIC, am not aware it doesn't include data set for for students entering via DSA and my bad for stating SEC cut off is 4-8 when it's 6-8.

                  If someone gets AL6 from non-affiliated primary school, what's the consideration for choosing SEC over IP at other schools like NYGH/SCGS/NJC/SNGS? Can also go into MGS IB/RGS IP assuming don't get balloted out at 6. With AL6, definitely meet the cut off point for many IP schools so I thought the consideration for picking SEC is to keep the option open after end of 4 years as there are many more post-sec options like taking IB/A levels locally/overseas or taking pre-u overseas when the child is more matured and more likely to know what she/he wants at 16 vs now at 12 years old to decide on the particular JC now by joining IP/IB.

                  I saw some overseas pre-uni foundation states entry requirement with O level results, hence I thought at least require O level results to apply so by going IB/IP route might close off this option. I supposed maybe some pre-u only require their own admission test. Can share which pre-u for me to do more research? Thanks.
                  From School Finder
                  MGS IB track: 4-6
                  MGS SEC (O level track): 6-8 (non-affiliates); 7-17 (affiliates)

                  I pointed out the above to highlight the fact that no one scoring 4 or 5 applied for MGS O level track. Those at 6 could have applied for both as 1st and 2nd choice, respectively, hence some got in IB track while those balloted out got their 2nd choice of O level track. The group who are MGS fans, do not voluntarily choose O levels over IB track.

                  There are other dual-track schools where the O level track is more popular than the IP track. This is because the partner JC (Eunoia JC) is not attractive to them. They are aiming to get a 2nd chance, 4 years later, to enter RI-JC or HCI-JC, failing which, NYJC.

                  I’m not sure if Australian uni foundation courses accept internal Y4 school results from IB/IP schools. But for UK, I heard some 6th form colleges do look at IP Y3 results, and/or set entrance exams for foreign students. Already know of several RGS girls going this route.

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                    anxious789
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                    But with AL6 can enter Nanyang Girls which goes to HCI JC cuz Nanyang Girls cut off non-affiliated is 4(D) - 7(D)?


                    Why r they leaving RGS since they already worked so hard to get accepted to top gals school n JC?

                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"2117727\" time=\"1693302083\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2117727 time=1693302083 user_id=53606]From School Finder
                    MGS IB track: 4-6
                    MGS SEC (O level track): 6-8 (non-affiliates); 7-17 (affiliates)

                    I pointed out the above to highlight the fact that no one scoring 4 or 5 applied for MGS O level track. Those at 6 could have applied for both as 1st and 2nd choice, respectively, hence some got in IB track while those balloted out got their 2nd choice of O level track. The group who are MGS fans, do not voluntarily choose O levels over IB track.

                    There are other dual-track schools where the O level track is more popular than the IP track. This is because the partner JC (Eunoia JC) is not attractive to them. They are aiming to get a 2nd chance, 4 years later, to enter RI-JC or HCI-JC, failing which, NYJC.

                    I’m not sure if Australian uni foundation courses accept internal Y4 school results from IB/IP schools. But for UK, I heard some 6th form colleges do look at IP Y3 results, and/or set entrance exams for foreign students. Already know of several RGS girls going this route.[/quote]

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                      Winterapple
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                      anxious789\" post_id=\"2117729\" time=\"1693302785\" user_id=\"202673:

                      But with AL6 can enter Nanyang Girls which goes to HCI JC cuz Nanyang Girls cut off non-affiliated is 4(D) - 7(D)?
                      Undeniably NGHS attracts top students, but some may prefer others due to CCA, sch culture, parents influence, etc.

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                      • bbbayB Offline
                        bbbay
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                        There were students with 260+ (in T scores day), chosen O level track, not even from IP schools, from ordinary school instead. From school finder you can see some neighbourhood schools has AL4 /AL 5 students. Not all students strive for elite schools/path even they qualify comfortably. Some that make it and chose to study in top schools, It’s may not be a big deal to them to leave after 4 years for overseas education.

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