Integrated Programme (IP)

[xxjustakidxx]

VitoRelax:

autolycus:

Well, one thing to bear in mind is the curve. When RI and so on were in the rankings lists, the difference could be a significant one in terms of MSG and so on.

What is MSG ?

Mean subject grade.
But RI counts GPA.

[xxjustakidxx]

traineeks:

xxjustakidxx:

Not true, like for HCI, the SBGE is not only meant for GEP pupils, if pupils achieve a average score of 1.5, they can qualify for it. Furthermore, DHS' scores are higher, much higher.

And the raffles academy too.
The selection are all done at the end of sec 2.

In HCI, the SBGE program is hosted and housed under the iSpark consortium. ISpark is only open to GEP students and a few top APMOPS platinum from mainsteam.

Here is a link on SGBE from HCI website:
http://www.hwachong.edu.sg/ContentPage.asp?TID=55

Here is a link on iSpark:
http://www.hci.sg/ispark/2009/

I think what you are refering to is CSE (Centre of Scholastic Excellence). CSE is focused on a particular academic area and application is open to all students in upper secondary with the acceptable scores. SBGE on the other hand also touches on non academic areas like leadership.

CSE may overlap with SBGE but it is not SBGE by itself.

Here is a link on CSE in HCI:
http://cse.hci.edu.sg/

I have friends that got into I spark that are not in GEP and has aggregate as low as only 262+3.
They are not some winners too.

[traineeks]

xxjustakidxx:

xxjustakidxx:

I have friends that got into I spark that are not in GEP and has aggregate as low as only 262+3.
They are not some winners too.

It is a well known fact that the majority of iSpark are GEP students with a few mainstreamers.

[westmom]

Chanced on this link about IP vs O levels. It's interesting perspective as I had an impression that IP students should do better in A levels (vs those fr O levels). Seems it may not be true.


http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:-gu5IKa7GNsJ:forum.channelnewsasia.com/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D3193777%26sid%3Df7a29fb9559dfd239ca90ecd41b3a9a6+o+levels+vs+ip&cd=33&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

[VitoRelax]

xxjustakidxx:

VitoRelax:

[quote=\"autolycus\"]Well, one thing to bear in mind is the curve. When RI and so on were in the rankings lists, the difference could be a significant one in terms of MSG and so on.

What is MSG ?

Mean subject grade.[/quote]Thanks, for a moment, I wonder what has Ajinamoto gotta do with it

[VitoRelax]

westmom:

Chanced on this link about IP vs O levels. It's interesting perspective as I had an impression that IP students should do better in A levels (vs those fr O levels). Seems it may not be true.


http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:-gu5IKa7GNsJ:forum.channelnewsasia.com/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D3193777%26sid%3Df7a29fb9559dfd239ca90ecd41b3a9a6+o+levels+vs+ip&cd=33&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

I guess there is no perfect system.

For example, is the GEP program bring out the best in the students ? Well, the answer is both YES & NO. For some, it really brings out the best for for some it didn't.

I have seen some students who went to gifted program becoming a better student but some could have been better staying in the main stream.

So, I guess it is likewise for IP.

[VitoRelax]

karmeleon:

Hahah. Cath High principal said they applied again last year, but was rejected again. I don't know how true, but that's what he said.

Let's see if SJI gets their approval.
http://www.sji.moe.edu.sg/subpage.php?id=208

How come SJI is allowed to apply for IP ? Tot they closed the gate in 2005 ?

After all, not all who got into SJI are top 10% of the cohort ?

[traineeks]

VitoRelax:

How come SJI is allowed to apply for IP ? Tot they closed the gate in 2005 ?


After all, not all who got into SJI are top 10% of the cohort ?

SJI proposed a hybrid model like ACSI - offering both O level and IP. So if approved, only their top students can be in IP.

[VitoRelax]

traineeks:

SJI proposed a hybrid model like ACSI - offering both O level and IP. So if approved, only their top students can be in IP.

But how can MOE approve SJI application when in 2005, MOE said they has closed the gates on new IP program ?

[traineeks]

VitoRelax:

But how can MOE approve SJI application when in 2005, MOE said they has closed the gates on new IP program ?

Don't know.

SJI only applied but no approval from MOE yet. As far as I can recall. SJI has been trying to offer and get IP approval for a long time. Some say the new principal has been brought in to help get IP approval.

NJC has changed from a 4 year program to a 6 year program. Many suspect that this is to draw the better students from year one. Now, VJC is also trying to do the same.

I don't think MOE has added any new IP schools since 2005. But maybe now with more experience and results seen from IP, more students could benefit from a IP program and skipping O levels. The basic premise of IP is it targets students who are \"clearly university bound\" to skip O levels. Maybe it is clearer now that those who are \"clearly university bound\" are not just the top 10% but also the top from the mainstream schools.

I am only guessing here. Only MOE or those in policy making would know where education landscape is heading.