2010 S1 Posting Exercise

[desichan352]

mum-to-2:

desichan352:

I think that ur choices should be the following:
1)Guangyang
2)Whitley
3)Bartley
instead....Very slim chances of getting in to Pierce so I did not list it but up to you. Good luck! ^^

thank you Desi....if my boy is keen to go bartley, and if i list it as his 1st choice, he should be able to get in right, if the COP doesnt change?

Yup, since he qualifies for the COP last year by 7 points - which is a lot. So even if the COP goes up, it won't go up as much as 7 points. Hope I helped and all the best!

[mum-to-2]

Sun_2010:

Put your choices in order of preference
Simply put
Think which school your DS wants to go , put that as choice 1. If his score meets the COP he will be allocated that school, the rest of the choice do not matter.
If there are no vacancies in his school of first choice, then the second choice is considered and so on.
If your son wants Bartley as his first school of choice then put that as the first choice. Then his next best preference , so on.

hope this is clear

thank you much! he tells me to indicate bartley as his 1st choice, followed by peirce (tho we both know its prob a NO) and then followed by balestier, whitley, guangyang, bishan park

[mum-to-2]

desichan352:

mum-to-2:

[quote=\"desichan352\"]

I think that ur choices should be the following:
1)Guangyang
2)Whitley
3)Bartley
instead....Very slim chances of getting in to Pierce so I did not list it but up to you. Good luck! ^^

thank you Desi....if my boy is keen to go bartley, and if i list it as his 1st choice, he should be able to get in right, if the COP doesnt change?

Yup, since he qualifies for the COP last year by 7 points - which is a lot. So even if the COP goes up, it won't go up as much as 7 points. Hope I helped and all the best! ;)[/quote]thank you! really hope he will get into his first choice

[desichan352]

mum-to-2:

desichan352:

[quote=\"mum-to-2\"]
thank you Desi....if my boy is keen to go bartley, and if i list it as his 1st choice, he should be able to get in right, if the COP doesnt change?

Yup, since he qualifies for the COP last year by 7 points - which is a lot. So even if the COP goes up, it won't go up as much as 7 points. Hope I helped and all the best!

thank you! really hope he will get into his first choice [/quote]You're welcome!

[mangorice]

Looking at the stats, difference on number of students that passed psle in 2009(47,117) and 2010(43,826) is approx 3000+. Percentage qualifying for express(63.1%) and normal A&T(22.4% & 11.6%) in 2009. Percentage in 2010, qualifying for express 63.5%, normal A&T (22.1% & 11.7%). How does the difference in both cohorts affect the posting of students? and COP tis yr?


Another question:- If parents select secondary schools strictly to the COP of previous year, doesnt that mean that COP will least likely to be lowered??

just some points for parents to ponder.

[autolycus]

mangorice:

Looking at the stats, difference on number of students that passed psle in 2009(47,117) and 2010(43,826) is approx 3000+. Percentage qualifying for express(63.1%) and normal A&T(22.4% & 11.6%) in 2009. Percentage in 2010, qualifying for express 63.5%, normal A&T (22.1% & 11.7%). How does the difference in both cohorts affect the posting of students? and COP tis yr?


Another question:- If parents select secondary schools strictly to the COP of previous year, doesnt that mean that COP will least likely to be lowered??

just some points for parents to ponder.

Depends on how many places the new secondary schools and existing secondary schools have. The COP is not preset; it is a function of applications received. For example, if I have 300 places at ABC Secondary, and my 300th-ranked student has an aggregate of 211 (although my 299th-ranked has 244), my COP is listed as 211 because that is the score my last-ranked student had.

The cohort size seldom affects COP much because MOE ensures sufficient spaces, and because the candidature is so huge, there will be some statistical behaviour towards a skewed normal distribution.

If the distribution was a flat aggregate distribution from 1 to (for example) 300, and you had 45,000 students, then each score would have about 150 at that score. But it isn't flat, it's curved. So near the median scores, you might have many hundreds or even thousands with the same grade.

If you then look up all the schools in MOE database, you can make some sort of guess where those schools lie on the curve. It's only a guess, though, because we don't necessarily know the internal distribution in each school.

[JonC]

Anyone starting a new thread "S1 Posting Result" ?

[Kiasu Friend]

mangorice:

Looking at the stats, difference on number of students that passed psle in 2009(47,117) and 2010(43,826) is approx 3000+. Percentage qualifying for express(63.1%) and normal A&T(22.4% & 11.6%) in 2009. Percentage in 2010, qualifying for express 63.5%, normal A&T (22.1% & 11.7%). How does the difference in both cohorts affect the posting of students? and COP tis yr?


Another question:- If parents select secondary schools strictly to the COP of previous year, doesnt that mean that COP will least likely to be lowered??

just some points for parents to ponder.

Hi mangorice,

Your stats show that the percentage of students qualifying for Express, Normal-academic and Normal-Technical have remained nearly same between 2009 and 2010. The only major difference is that 2010 chort was significantly smaller than 2009.

In my view, this should lead to a fall in COP this year since the number of seats available in secondary schools has remained more or less the same between 2009 and 2010.

[mangorice]

Kiasu Friend:

mangorice:

Looking at the stats, difference on number of students that passed psle in 2009(47,117) and 2010(43,826) is approx 3000+. Percentage qualifying for express(63.1%) and normal A&T(22.4% & 11.6%) in 2009. Percentage in 2010, qualifying for express 63.5%, normal A&T (22.1% & 11.7%). How does the difference in both cohorts affect the posting of students? and COP tis yr?


Another question:- If parents select secondary schools strictly to the COP of previous year, doesnt that mean that COP will least likely to be lowered??

just some points for parents to ponder.

Hi mangorice,

Your stats show that the percentage of students qualifying for Express, Normal-academic and Normal-Technical have remained nearly same between 2009 and 2010. The only major difference is that 2010 chort was significantly smaller than 2009.

In my view, this should lead to a fall in COP this year since the number of seats available in secondary schools has remained more or less the same between 2009 and 2010.

Hi Kiasu Friend,

Did some calculation based on moe's psle results in 2009 & 2010. You are right that the percentage of students qualifying for all 3 streams have remained the same. But because of the difference in the cohorts for both years (48,541 and 45,049), the difference in numbers are as follows:-

Express stream = (30,629 -28,606) = 2,023 students (ie abt 87 classes,40 students per class)
NormalA = 918 students, NormalT = 360 students

There are 4 secondary schools merged into 2 schools and 1 new secondary school in 2011.

One thing for sure, no one has the actual number of secondary 1 classes per secondary school to do the minute calculation. There could be more or less secondary one classes from each school as well.

I did the above calculation hoping of course that COP for 2011 will drop in contrast with other opinion that this year COP will not drop because it was relatively an easy paper. Well, I may be wrong in any case.

[mangorice]

mangorice:

Kiasu Friend:

[quote=\"mangorice\"]Looking at the stats, difference on number of students that passed psle in 2009(47,117) and 2010(43,826) is approx 3000+. Percentage qualifying for express(63.1%) and normal A&T(22.4% & 11.6%) in 2009. Percentage in 2010, qualifying for express 63.5%, normal A&T (22.1% & 11.7%). How does the difference in both cohorts affect the posting of students? and COP tis yr?


Another question:- If parents select secondary schools strictly to the COP of previous year, doesnt that mean that COP will least likely to be lowered??

just some points for parents to ponder.

Hi mangorice,

Your stats show that the percentage of students qualifying for Express, Normal-academic and Normal-Technical have remained nearly same between 2009 and 2010. The only major difference is that 2010 chort was significantly smaller than 2009.

In my view, this should lead to a fall in COP this year since the number of seats available in secondary schools has remained more or less the same between 2009 and 2010.

Hi Kiasu Friend,

Did some calculation based on moe's psle results in 2009 & 2010. You are right that the percentage of students qualifying for all 3 streams have remained the same. But because of the difference in the cohorts for both years (48,541 and 45,049), the difference in numbers are as follows:-

Express stream = (30,629 -28,606) = 2,023 students (ie abt 87 classes,40 students per class)
NormalA = 918 students, NormalT = 360 students

There are 4 secondary schools merged into 2 schools and 1 new secondary school in 2011.

One thing for sure, no one has the actual number of secondary 1 classes per secondary school to do the minute calculation. There could be more or less secondary one classes from each school as well.

I did the above calculation hoping of course that COP for 2011 will drop in contrast with other opinion that this year COP will not drop because it was relatively an easy paper. Well, I may be wrong in any case.[/quote]Pardon my error above, Express stream difference = 2023/40 students, shld be approx 50 classes