All About GEP
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sleepy:
Just curious, if they don't get a DSA offer, does it mean they didn't get into the IP school via their PSLE score as well?
If I remember correctly, the statistics that principal shown us, 30% didn't receive any DSA offer. Statistics only referring to dd's school.PiggyLalala:
Any idea what is the percentage of the GE pupils who fail to get into the IP schools each year?
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nansk:
Just curious, if they don't get a DSA offer, does it mean they didn't get into the IP school via their PSLE score as well?[/quote]the can still get into IP school with the PSLE high enough score, via S1 posting
If I remember correctly, the statistics that principal shown us, 30% didn't receive any DSA offer. Statistics only referring to dd's school.sleepy:
[quote=\"PiggyLalala\"]Any idea what is the percentage of the GE pupils who fail to get into the IP schools each year? -
sleepy:
30% is a lot. When MOE GE department came to give a talk to the parents last year, they showed us the past 3-5 years' DSA stats. It's in the mid to high 80s. So in essence, 8-9 out of every 10 GE kids will get a CO before PSLE.
If I remember correctly, the statistics that principal shown us, 30% didn't receive any DSA offer. Statistics only referring to dd's school.PiggyLalala:
Any idea what is the percentage of the GE pupils who fail to get into the IP schools each year?
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There was a yr when the ACSP students got played out by the ACSI coz a significant no. did not get CO vs almost 100% the prev yr…or so I was told.
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Nebbermind:
There was a yr when the ACSP students got played out by the ACSI coz a significant no. did not get CO vs almost 100% the prev yr...or so I was told.
That's true. That's why many of them went over to RI.
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ksi:
If it's not Important, parents might ask their kids to concentrate on PSLE subjects instead of studying for SS. :evil:Nebbermind:
Perhaps they didn't want parents to take it too lightly :evil:
Why parents? Shouldn't it be the children? :evil: :rotflmao: -
nansk:
Just curious, if they don't get a DSA offer, does it mean they didn't get into the IP school via their PSLE score as well?
No idea if the remaining 30% went to IP schools or neighbourhood schools le -
Nebbermind:
There was a yr when the ACSP students got played out by the ACSI coz a significant no. did not get CO vs almost 100% the prev yr...or so I was told.
You mean the GEPpers? Maybe the earlier batch ie the almost 100% CO batch the previous year play out ACSI first ie many of them could have multiple COs and accepted the RI COs instead of ACSI. So ACSI was disappointed, review the process and give less COs to the subsequent batch of ACSP GEPpers. Even the top ACSP GEPper last year went to RI. -
jtoh:
I agree.[/quote]Being in one of the batches of GEP to be converted to IP halfway through secondary school, out of only three such batches, I think I know the difference in curriculum pretty well. I think I know more than people who haven't been through it. Maybe, you should find out about the curriculum, instead of reading only the positive stuff in the media.
people should go an find out the full curriculum offered by the various IP schools first before making judgement whether good or badverykiasu2010:
[quote=\"ForumWriter\"]
IP is also another poor scheme, in my opinion, which leads to increased tuition because everyone tries to get into IP schools so that they can skip O-levels. The mindset seems to be, \"Chiong in Primary school, get into IP, then can slack until A-levels\", therefore, everyone is going for tuition.
Most of my friends also felt that IP was inferior to the O-level system since the only change was more project work - which parents here have rightly pointed out, is unfair because some parents end up doing the projects instead. But now that the IP schools are introducing more varied modules and educational trips, hopefully it is better than in the past.
Of course, you will never see these reports in the papers, I don't blame you.
In a post-exam forum about the effectiveness of the IP with the RI's deputy principal, Ms Tan, one of the GEP guys stood up and compared the curriculum with the O-levels. There were many points about projects taking up too much time and not related to the syllabus. Also, there was a comment about the GPA system and that people just needed minimal effort to pass instead of needing to work hard like the O-level system. Almost the entire auditorium cheered at his feedback - an indication that they supported his comments.
Her reply? No logic at all and not even related to the feedback. She told him off for wasting her time and even belittled him by instructing him to \"go home and do a research paper\" before coming back to her. A forum became a scolding session. Interesting to see how the deputy principals from top schools can't handle constructive feedback.
Yes, I don't mind naming her here because there are at least a few hundred other guys who witnessed her statements and her uncalled-for outburst.
If they are going to suppress negative opinions about IP everywhere, of course you guys who have never experienced it personally will think it's good.
Oh, and a top IP school is dissolving a few CCAs and SIGs (student interest groups) and reducing training times secretly. Maybe it's because they've realised that their students are performing worse and worse every year. While the reason for this isn't announced, the only change in recent years is the advent of IP and DSA. Off-the-record interviews were conducted with certain school authorities, but the principal herself sounded astonished at the news and her information contradicted that of the CCA heads and other teachers. -
Hi ForumWriter
One of my kid could be your friend. Anyway, what you have written is similar to what I heard from my child.
The comment about the GPA needing minimal effort to pass is very true. All my kids had honey moon for 5 years. 2 have already survived the system because they woke up a couple of months before A level. However, my last one is a real worry - still having honey moon.
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