All About GEP
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Mainstream and GEP all have to take the same PSLE papers by the way.
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SmokedTerkey\" post_id=\"2028822\" time=\"1625131593\" user_id=\"193557:
If you are not going to a GEP school using your GEP test scores, it’s just a normal transfer. You don’t need to wait for GEP tests, nor do the tests make any difference in effecting a transfer.
Hi all,
I've been reading up on GEP lately but ultimately quite new at this.
Suppose a P2 child is in an academically-inclined, CCA-weak neighbourhood school (one of the more popular and consistently oversubscribed ones) but unfortunately his/her personality suits better in a school that are both academic (child loves learning and has been getting good feedback from teacher) and strong in CCA particularly in sports (as the child loves sports and has been doing 4 types of sports since young with strong inclination/passion/talent in 2 out of the 4).
Are there then instances/precedent where the child does well in both GEP screening and selection tests and offered a place in GEP but the child wants to stay \"mainstream\" i.e. regular PSLE in another school? Could s/he use the GEP test results to get into another primary school that is strong in academic and sports without committing to the GEP?
I've come across children being made GEP offer and took up on the offer and then went to one of the 9 primary schools offering GEP. I've also came across children acing GEP and then turned down the offer to stay put (no change in school) and stay mainstream (regular PSLE). But the case above - so far have not come across this. -
SmokedTerkey\" post_id=\"2028822\" time=\"1625131593\" user_id=\"193557:
Hi, I met a PR family a few years ago who did in fact use their eldest's boy's GEP Round 1 results released in October that year (where he was also invited to sit for Round 2, although he didn't get thru), in conjunction with his semester 1 exams results for P3 to apply for a transfer from a less popular neighbourhood school in Bedok to a much more popular school in Bukit Timah (supposedly a top 10 school in Sg based on https://www.comp.nus.edu.sg). The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅). And I remembered being told by the mum that it was a widely \"practiced\" method in their PR community to use their child's GEP Round 1 results to apply for school transfer to a more popular school in Sg if they aren't already in one yet.
Hi all,
I've been reading up on GEP lately but ultimately quite new at this.
Suppose a P2 child is in an academically-inclined, CCA-weak neighbourhood school (one of the more popular and consistently oversubscribed ones) but unfortunately his/her personality suits better in a school that are both academic (child loves learning and has been getting good feedback from teacher) and strong in CCA particularly in sports (as the child loves sports and has been doing 4 types of sports since young with strong inclination/passion/talent in 2 out of the 4).
Are there then instances/precedent where the child does well in both GEP screening and selection tests and offered a place in GEP but the child wants to stay \"mainstream\" i.e. regular PSLE in another school? Could s/he use the GEP test results to get into another primary school that is strong in academic and sports without committing to the GEP?
I've come across children being made GEP offer and took up on the offer and then went to one of the 9 primary schools offering GEP. I've also came across children acing GEP and then turned down the offer to stay put (no change in school) and stay mainstream (regular PSLE). But the case above - so far have not come across this.
Now that my child is in primary school, and I have met some other PR parents as well, and heard similar stories, it does seem that this usage of GEP Round 1 results amongst the PR community is true to some extent. I suppose there's no harm giving it a try if your intention is to help your child to transfer to a school that you feel will be more suitable for him/her. -
revils_ling\" post_id=\"2028884\" time=\"1625188980\" user_id=\"136480:
with that elder boy successfully entered the \"Bukit Timah\" school.SmokedTerkey\" post_id=\"2028822\" time=\"1625131593\" user_id=\"193557:
Hi all,
I've been reading up on GEP lately but ultimately quite new at this.
Suppose a P2 child is in an academically-inclined, CCA-weak neighbourhood school (one of the more popular and consistently oversubscribed ones) but unfortunately his/her personality suits better in a school that are both academic (child loves learning and has been getting good feedback from teacher) and strong in CCA particularly in sports (as the child loves sports and has been doing 4 types of sports since young with strong inclination/passion/talent in 2 out of the 4).
Are there then instances/precedent where the child does well in both GEP screening and selection tests and offered a place in GEP but the child wants to stay \"mainstream\" i.e. regular PSLE in another school? Could s/he use the GEP test results to get into another primary school that is strong in academic and sports without committing to the GEP?
I've come across children being made GEP offer and took up on the offer and then went to one of the 9 primary schools offering GEP. I've also came across children acing GEP and then turned down the offer to stay put (no change in school) and stay mainstream (regular PSLE). But the case above - so far have not come across this.
Hi, I met a PR family a few years ago who did in fact use their eldest's boy's GEP Round 1 results released in October that year (where he was also invited to sit for Round 2, although he didn't get thru), in conjunction with his semester 1 exams results for P3 to apply for a transfer from a less popular neighbourhood school in Bedok to a much more popular school in Bukit Timah (supposedly a top 10 school in Sg based on https://www.comp.nus.edu.sg). The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅). And I remembered being told by the mum that it was a widely \"practiced\" method in their PR community to use their child's GEP Round 1 results to apply for school transfer to a more popular school in Sg if they aren't already in one yet.
Now that my child is in primary school, and I have met some other PR parents as well, and heard similar stories, it does seem that this usage of GEP Round 1 results amongst the PR community is true to some extent. I suppose there's no harm giving it a try if your intention is to help your child to transfer to a school that you feel will be more suitable for him/her.
(top 10, not RGPS since its a boy, then its ACS, NYPS, HPPS liao lo)
the younger child gets a phase 1 - P1 registration.
the grand kids gets a phase 2A1 - P1 registration.
That's how PR manages to get ahead of SG. (for P1 registration only)
(not right no wrong, just a method and I think it's not entirely unfair too.
the SG parents can also apply a transfer at P3 too - if they are hungry enough) -
revils_ling\" post_id=\"2028884\" time=\"1625188980\" user_id=\"136480:
There is no magic behind “the whole swiftness of it all”. Many schools process transfers once, at the end of each year. So you can submit your wait list /request (whatever you wish to call it) in Jan or 1day before the closing date, your application will be processed together.
The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅).
If they are good, they could have already transferred at end p2 and start in p3, they didn’t need to wait for GEP results. -
Some parents use their kids’ outstanding sporting ability to transfer as well. The sport is usually one which the “receiving” school values highly. “DSA” for P2s
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SmokedTerkey\" post_id=\"2028822\" time=\"1625131593\" user_id=\"193557:
Anyone can transfer from sch A to sch B subject to vacancies in sch B. It doesn’t matter if one is inclined/passionate/talented in 2 out of 4 sports or prefers playing handphone games. 😅 I think most forms require you to state the reasons for transfer, just put down the real reasons. Good luck!
Hi all,
I've been reading up on GEP lately but ultimately quite new at this.
Suppose a P2 child is in an academically-inclined, CCA-weak neighbourhood school (one of the more popular and consistently oversubscribed ones) … -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2029389\" time=\"1625549962\" user_id=\"2964:
Of course there's no \"magic\" behind this process, otherwise many parents would be considering practicing black magic already. 😅 I supposed I was amazed back then because my 1 and only child was just 3yo (circa 2015), so we won't even in the primary school \"system\" yet. Now that we're finally a part of it, it makes alot more sense. 🤓
There is no magic behind “the whole swiftness of it all”. Many schools process transfers once, at the end of each year. So you can submit your wait list /request (whatever you wish to call it) in Jan or 1day before the closing date, your application will be processed together.revils_ling\" post_id=\"2028884\" time=\"1625188980\" user_id=\"136480:
The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅).
If they are good, they could have already transferred at end p2 and start in p3, they didn’t need to wait for GEP results. -
skii\" post_id=\"2029382\" time=\"1625545501\" user_id=\"82603:
with that elder boy successfully entered the \"Bukit Timah\" school.revils_ling\" post_id=\"2028884\" time=\"1625188980\" user_id=\"136480:
[quote=SmokedTerkey post_id=2028822 time=1625131593 user_id=193557]Hi all,
I've been reading up on GEP lately but ultimately quite new at this.
Suppose a P2 child is in an academically-inclined, CCA-weak neighbourhood school (one of the more popular and consistently oversubscribed ones) but unfortunately his/her personality suits better in a school that are both academic (child loves learning and has been getting good feedback from teacher) and strong in CCA particularly in sports (as the child loves sports and has been doing 4 types of sports since young with strong inclination/passion/talent in 2 out of the 4).
Are there then instances/precedent where the child does well in both GEP screening and selection tests and offered a place in GEP but the child wants to stay \"mainstream\" i.e. regular PSLE in another school? Could s/he use the GEP test results to get into another primary school that is strong in academic and sports without committing to the GEP?
I've come across children being made GEP offer and took up on the offer and then went to one of the 9 primary schools offering GEP. I've also came across children acing GEP and then turned down the offer to stay put (no change in school) and stay mainstream (regular PSLE). But the case above - so far have not come across this.
Hi, I met a PR family a few years ago who did in fact use their eldest's boy's GEP Round 1 results released in October that year (where he was also invited to sit for Round 2, although he didn't get thru), in conjunction with his semester 1 exams results for P3 to apply for a transfer from a less popular neighbourhood school in Bedok to a much more popular school in Bukit Timah (supposedly a top 10 school in Sg based on https://www.comp.nus.edu.sg). The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅). And I remembered being told by the mum that it was a widely \"practiced\" method in their PR community to use their child's GEP Round 1 results to apply for school transfer to a more popular school in Sg if they aren't already in one yet.
Now that my child is in primary school, and I have met some other PR parents as well, and heard similar stories, it does seem that this usage of GEP Round 1 results amongst the PR community is true to some extent. I suppose there's no harm giving it a try if your intention is to help your child to transfer to a school that you feel will be more suitable for him/her.
(top 10, not RGPS since its a boy, then its ACS, NYPS, HPPS liao lo)
the younger child gets a phase 1 - P1 registration.
the grand kids gets a phase 2A1 - P1 registration.
That's how PR manages to get ahead of SG. (for P1 registration only)
(not right no wrong, just a method and I think it's not entirely unfair too.
the SG parents can also apply a transfer at P3 too - if they are hungry enough)[/quote]Full disclosure: the child I was referring to in soliciting advice for transfer to a school that suits the child (it's not about chasing school brands; in fact, the parents are not keen on top super academic schools, but rather schools that suit a child who loves sports and yet understand that studies comes first) is Singaporean.
But I must check why is there an emphasise on PR trying to get ahead of Singaporeans? Singaporeans have been trying to get ahead of each other (commonly getting child into a good school through siblings and through alumni) en mass for decades that it's mainstream, so common that nobody blinks an eye. Given the xenophobic atmosphere these days, statements like these - i.e. what a small group of non-citizens are doing whether it's to get ahead of Singaporeans or not, especially when it's perfectly legal, not unethical - in my opinion, are unhelpful.
Pure speculation here but I'm guessing these parents are just trying to overcome the \"alumni handicap\" and \"citizen over non-citizen prioritisation handicap\" that many local children have. -
SmokedTerkey\" post_id=\"2029523\" time=\"1625628665\" user_id=\"193557:
Full disclosure: the child I was referring to in soliciting advice for transfer to a school that suits the child (it's not about chasing school brands; in fact, the parents are not keen on top super academic schools, but rather schools that suit a child who loves sports and yet understand that studies comes first) is Singaporean.
with that elder boy successfully entered the \"Bukit Timah\" school.skii\" post_id=\"2029382\" time=\"1625545501\" user_id=\"82603:
[quote=revils_ling post_id=2028884 time=1625188980 user_id=136480]
Hi, I met a PR family a few years ago who did in fact use their eldest's boy's GEP Round 1 results released in October that year (where he was also invited to sit for Round 2, although he didn't get thru), in conjunction with his semester 1 exams results for P3 to apply for a transfer from a less popular neighbourhood school in Bedok to a much more popular school in Bukit Timah (supposedly a top 10 school in Sg based on https://www.comp.nus.edu.sg). The request for transfer was made in mid-October that year and by end-November, their preferred school in Bukit Timah had approved the transfer and the entire family shifted from Bedok to Bukit Timah because of that, even though the dad was working in Ubi. I remembered this because I was amazed at the whole swiftness of it all (everything happened within less than 2 months 😅). And I remembered being told by the mum that it was a widely \"practiced\" method in their PR community to use their child's GEP Round 1 results to apply for school transfer to a more popular school in Sg if they aren't already in one yet.
Now that my child is in primary school, and I have met some other PR parents as well, and heard similar stories, it does seem that this usage of GEP Round 1 results amongst the PR community is true to some extent. I suppose there's no harm giving it a try if your intention is to help your child to transfer to a school that you feel will be more suitable for him/her.
(top 10, not RGPS since its a boy, then its ACS, NYPS, HPPS liao lo)
the younger child gets a phase 1 - P1 registration.
the grand kids gets a phase 2A1 - P1 registration.
That's how PR manages to get ahead of SG. (for P1 registration only)
(not right no wrong, just a method and I think it's not entirely unfair too.
the SG parents can also apply a transfer at P3 too - if they are hungry enough)
But I must check why is there an emphasise on PR trying to get ahead of Singaporeans? Singaporeans have been trying to get ahead of each other (commonly getting child into a good school through siblings and through alumni) en mass for decades that it's mainstream, so common that nobody blinks an eye. Given the xenophobic atmosphere these days, statements like these - i.e. what a small group of non-citizens are doing whether it's to get ahead of Singaporeans or not, especially when it's perfectly legal, not unethical - in my opinion, are unhelpful.
Pure speculation here but I'm guessing these parents are just trying to overcome the \"alumni handicap\" and \"citizen over non-citizen prioritisation handicap\" that many local children have.[/quote]Just to clarify before anything goes South from here... my reply was based on what my knowledge/memory of a GEP-related incident that I thought would be relevant to your initial query, and there was no intentional emphasis on PRs or PRs trying to get ahead of locals in any way. IMHO, people in general just want to get ahead in life, not specifically ahead of anyone in particular.
Anyway, my point was to share what I knew that happened from a few years back, and not to create xenophobia (which I'm personally against as well, or any sort of unnecessary animosity against others). I hope whoever that intends to reply or contribute to this topic moving forward doesn't digress from the the original question/topic. Thanks for reading! 🙏
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