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    Intellect or Age Peer?

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    • phankaoP Offline
      phankao
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      ksi:
      deminc:

      Thanks ksi! I \"catch the ball\" now, haha! So 2ppaamm is saying that actually all applicants require approval, but for most, the approval is automatic. In this case, MOE exercised its gatekeeper role to keep the child in local education system, which I personally think is due to their very open stance that as far as possible, gifted children should be kept within MOE system.


      Or did the ball roll away from me again??

      No..the ball did not roll this time... I am also beginning to find out from 2ppaamm that at SECONDARY, they also try to control...maybe for gifted kids. Those I am aware are just normal kids from local primary school switching to international at secondary because firstly parents are rich enough, secondly, hate the exam system in local schools.

      Maybe only control the gifted, lah.

      I know one boy from my son's year went to Hwa Chong International even though score for psle around 180+

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        jtoh
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        phankao:

        Maybe only control the gifted, lah.

        I know one boy from my son's year went to Hwa Chong International even though score for psle around 180+
        SJI International must score PSLE minimum 230.

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          phankao
          last edited by

          jtoh:
          phankao:


          Maybe only control the gifted, lah.

          I know one boy from my son's year went to Hwa Chong International even though score for psle around 180+

          SJI International must score PSLE minimum 230.

          Who knows...maybe can donate money.

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            jtoh
            last edited by

            Different schools different criteria.

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              HyperKiasu
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              2ppaamm:

              Trying to work out the financial part and post it. The costs involves not just the university costs, you have to weigh the opportunity costs as well as the cost of tuition and time value of money, and inflation etc. Off the top of my head, accelerating a child can only be cheaper, unless the family completely DIY the education. It is possible to get scholarships, there are plenty available besides those available from govt. In any case, govt scholarships are only meaningful if the kid wants to be in PSC. Every university has their scholarship programs and these are available to most students. In fact about 80-90% of students from Ivies get scholarships. If your kid is a very early entrant, it will not be difficult to get a scholarship, if the kid has special other abilities, and the uni believes they can 'leverage' on the kid's reputation and add value to their alumni. I will calculate these out when I get some time today and post it.
              Are these scholarships available to international students? some Ivies are said to discriminate against Asians (even those born in USA with a
              Caucasian father and an Asian mother dare not disclose their race in the fear that their application will be rejected).

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                2ppaamm
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                Chenonceau:
                2ppaamm:

                And the kids had a lot of fun reading this. šŸ™‚ :evil:

                http://www.amazon.com/Vocabulary-Cartoons-SAT-Word-Power/dp/0965242234/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328676316&sr=8-1

                Vocabulary lists... looks boring leh... You sure fun? Real anot?

                My son loves this since he was 7. All his classmates took turns to borrow this book. He is a walking lexicon, and some credits go to this book.

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                  2ppaamm
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                  jtoh:
                  Hi 2ppaamm, you were saying that gifted boys will find it especially hard to get approval to go to international schools. In your case do you think it was because your son would have skipped grades if he had gone to an international school and MOE frowns upon grade skipping?


                  I wasn't aware that MOE approval was required for local students to attend SJI International and ACS International and that there was a quota on it. Quite a few of my friends have enrolled their kids in SJI International. They said they went for a test and interview at the school and were given offers conditional on their PSLE performance.
                  No, I don't think it has anything to do with the grade skipping part, he can also do that in local schools. Once they approve, they do not care whether you skip grades. They basically do not want boys, and gifted kids 'go'. Gifted boys are the most valuable in the system, I think.

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                    2ppaamm
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                    HyperKiasu:
                    2ppaamm:


                    Trying to work out the financial part and post it. The costs involves not just the university costs, you have to weigh the opportunity costs as well as the cost of tuition and time value of money, and inflation etc. Off the top of my head, accelerating a child can only be cheaper, unless the family completely DIY the education. It is possible to get scholarships, there are plenty available besides those available from govt. In any case, govt scholarships are only meaningful if the kid wants to be in PSC. Every university has their scholarship programs and these are available to most students. In fact about 80-90% of students from Ivies get scholarships. If your kid is a very early entrant, it will not be difficult to get a scholarship, if the kid has special other abilities, and the uni believes they can 'leverage' on the kid's reputation and add value to their alumni. I will calculate these out when I get some time today and post it.


                    Are these scholarships available to international students? some Ivies are said to discriminate against Asians (even those born in USA with a
                    Caucasian father and an Asian mother dare not disclose their race in the fear that their application will be rejected).

                    :? Hm... I don't know about the discrimination leh, I have never applied for scholarships in the Ivies because I don't have time. I only applied for my daughter and it is not a US uni, and she got it. I think it is school-by-school. When I was a student, I could get scholarship as a post-grad. Unless they've changed, there should be scholarships available to overseas students though there will be less compared to local students.

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                      metz
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                      Chenonceau:


                      Thanks Chamonix... actually, I am thinking of going up to Chamonix this June hols. šŸ˜„
                      With your family? That's a nice break for your son. šŸ˜„

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                        Chenonceau
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                        2ppaamm:
                        Chenonceau:

                        [quote=\"2ppaamm\"]And the kids had a lot of fun reading this. šŸ™‚ :evil:

                        http://www.amazon.com/Vocabulary-Cartoons-SAT-Word-Power/dp/0965242234/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328676316&sr=8-1

                        Vocabulary lists... looks boring leh... You sure fun? Real anot?

                        My son loves this since he was 7. All his classmates took turns to borrow this book. He is a walking lexicon, and some credits go to this book.[/quote]Ok, thanks.

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