Intellect or Age Peer?
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2ppaamm:
:? Hm... I don't know about the discrimination leh, I have never applied for scholarships in the Ivies because I don't have time. I only applied for my daughter and it is not a US uni, and she got it. I think it is school-by-school. When I was a student, I could get scholarship as a post-grad. Unless they've changed, there should be scholarships available to overseas students though there will be less compared to local students.[/quote]i see.HyperKiasu:
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Trying to work out the financial part and post it. The costs involves not just the university costs, you have to weigh the opportunity costs as well as the cost of tuition and time value of money, and inflation etc. Off the top of my head, accelerating a child can only be cheaper, unless the family completely DIY the education. It is possible to get scholarships, there are plenty available besides those available from govt. In any case, govt scholarships are only meaningful if the kid wants to be in PSC. Every university has their scholarship programs and these are available to most students. In fact about 80-90% of students from Ivies get scholarships. If your kid is a very early entrant, it will not be difficult to get a scholarship, if the kid has special other abilities, and the uni believes they can 'leverage' on the kid's reputation and add value to their alumni. I will calculate these out when I get some time today and post it.
Are these scholarships available to international students? some Ivies are said to discriminate against Asians (even those born in USA with a
Caucasian father and an Asian mother dare not disclose their race in the fear that their application will be rejected).
the discrimination thing was reported in newspaper. however there are some other Ivies who are quite race blind and the Asian students account for 40% there. But they also heat up the competition. Asian students are known to be academy robots in the western's eyes.... :evil: -
HyperKiasu:
[/quote]Robots? Haha! Whenever my kids speak up in class, they always attract comments that they speak good English. Most Asians who look like us (Chinese Singaporean) are from China. So we have a little edge. Just that we need some selling skills to give us that edge to win the scholarships. Not robots but academically much more superior because of the way our kids are brought up.
i see.2ppaamm:
[quote=\"HyperKiasu\"]
:? Hm... I don't know about the discrimination leh, I have never applied for scholarships in the Ivies because I don't have time. I only applied for my daughter and it is not a US uni, and she got it. I think it is school-by-school. When I was a student, I could get scholarship as a post-grad. Unless they've changed, there should be scholarships available to overseas students though there will be less compared to local students.
the discrimination thing was reported in newspaper. however there are some other Ivies who are quite race blind and the Asian students account for 40% there. But they also heat up the competition. Asian students are known to be academy robots in the western's eyes.... :evil:
The other part about the newspaper, which newspaper is that? I'd be very careful to trust local papers. -
insider:
I thought it was the PM's albino son who went to SAS. In any case, it is true that Singaporeans cannot suka suka enroll in international schools. But my son's also not a stupid boy leh, IQ also not low by his standard leh... I don't think it has to do with how stupid you are, I think the reasons are more cheem than that. :siam:about local going to international school...
I chanced upon this (from link in another thread). LHY's son also couldn't figure out a place for his IQ140 dyslexic son to go other than applying for permission to go intl school. So, it speaks a lot about how much MOE can do...
Extract:
MM Lee has sent his grandson (unruly Lee Hsien Yang's unruly son) to the Singapore American School (SAS) -- something Singaporeans cannot do, as they must attend only Singapore schools.
Addressing the Singapore American School (SAS), MM Lee said: \"I also had a grandson who could not fit into our schools. He had an IQ of 140, so he is not a stupid boy. But he was having trouble. His brother was scoring and he was not because he was dyslexic and he had to learn two languages - English and Chinese.
\"So, the Education Ministry allowed him to opt out of the system. We did not have the specialist teachers to cater for people like him. He joined the SAS and at your school, your teachers helped him cope with his dyslexia and in the process restored his self esteem and confidence, and he's done well. Your staff support the American community and they have brought benefits to Singaporeans. Thank you.\"
The SAS students include (59%) US passport holders, Koreans (10%), Indians (3.6%), Japanese (3.4%), Canadians (3.2%), and Indonesians (2.6%), and Singaporeans (4.4%).
source:http://www.yeocheowtong.com/
It is clear the schools and even GEP do not know how to handle certain kids, but they will never admit to it. They must brand the child useless, lest they look useless themselves. Better to save themselves, the kids? If they are useless and cause problems, they are out of their radar for anything big, or worse, they are a blemish to their records. Afterall, kids are harmless, and parents are toothless in our system. Isn't that so true? -
2ppaamm:
If your child can cope with higher level work, would you do whatever you know/can to accelerate him, or stick to the current education system and let him learn with his peers?
Curious what our mummies and daddies think. If you would do something different from the school syllabus, what would that be?
Learning should not be confined to just syllabus. If your child is gifted, you should teach him/ her more.
In my opinion, school syllabus is just a guideline. It should not be a hinderance to ur child's individual progress. If he/she is more capable, why not? -
thanks for the information
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2ppaamm:
it was either ST or Today.
Robots? Haha! Whenever my kids speak up in class, they always attract comments that they speak good English. Most Asians who look like us (Chinese Singaporean) are from China. So we have a little edge. Just that we need some selling skills to give us that edge to win the scholarships. Not robots but academically much more superior because of the way our kids are brought up.
The other part about the newspaper, which newspaper is that? I'd be very careful to trust local papers.
the article referred to Asians born in the States...And the candidates quoted were not 100% pure Asian breed as their fathers were caucasians (thus their names don't sound Asian).
Yale is the one that requires applicants to disclose their race.
UC Berkeley is one of most Asian friendly League.... :rahrah:
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