Is GEP really necessary?
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2ppaamm:
:thankyou:
Wow! This is really good sharing! I like that the school fees is cheap (all schools should be, including all the independent schools) and there is a representation of all social status in the school. If you understand where I am coming from...
I know where you are coming from. I am most happy when DS is still happy wearing his bata shoes even though he is now allowed to wear track shoes. Didn't ask me to get him track shoes even though some of his friends wearing them :). -
Mychildren:
Of course proud to be a Singaporean. My daughter will always tell people she is Singaporean even though she is a domestic student by definition, and does not have a Singaporean accent.Dnls_mum,
Don't be mistaken. Not asking anyone to leave. Just stay & if there are greener pastures & opportunity comes, then you may choose to or not to. Don't be easily influnce by anyone, you should decide your own life or path to go. For my family, we just leave it to God for things that we cannot change.
I still proud to be a Singaporean.
:offtopic:
I was reluctant to leave, since I was so comfortable in Singapore, everything was already in place, and family members so close. But, εζ―δΈθΏοΌas mothers, our responsibility is always for our children's education first, everything else fits around that. It was so difficult when I first arrived, but thankfully, I had my best friend here. She just ironed everything out for me one at a time, and helped installed my presence here.
I was reluctant to leave because of the fear of the unknown. No matter how bad the situation, it is always better to stay than to leave. At least we know what will happen next: PSLE, O's, A's and then uni. But my daughters were the brave ones, not afraid of another new frontier, so I just came dutifully. Viola! What surprises await us, the opportunities, the friendship and the standard of living! Most of all, the people who are socially so much more aware, my kids get to learn as well. And, every country is dangerous, we just have to be prudent.
No country is perfect, so at least when I am here, I will appreciate everything about this place, until we move again.
Don't know when.
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Dnls_mum:
So wonderful!
:thankyou:2ppaamm:
Wow! This is really good sharing! I like that the school fees is cheap (all schools should be, including all the independent schools) and there is a representation of all social status in the school. If you understand where I am coming from...
I know where you are coming from. I am most happy when DS is still happy wearing his bata shoes even though he is now allowed to wear track shoes. Didn't ask me to get him track shoes even though some of his friends wearing them :). -
I thought MOE said 40 per class for P3-P6. You mean some schools are not following this guideline n can allow more students to enroll :?
Dnls_mum:
Melodies:
Why everyone are in a class with <40? Which school are your ds in? My dd's class size is >40 .Not fair!
Wait. But then lor, make no difference le. chey..... :roll:
Maybe your DD school super popular so got lots of students lor! Hehe
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Hihi, Mind I ask where are you now? in Australia?
2ppaamm:
Of course proud to be a Singaporean. My daughter will always tell people she is Singaporean even though she is a domestic student by definition, and does not have a Singaporean accent.
I was reluctant to leave, since I was so comfortable in Singapore, everything was already in place, and family members so close. But, εζ―δΈθΏοΌas mothers, our responsibility is always for our children's education first, everything else fits around that. It was so difficult when I first arrived, but thankfully, I had my best friend here. She just ironed everything out for me one at a time, and helped installed my presence here.
I was reluctant to leave because of the fear of the unknown. No matter how bad the situation, it is always better to stay than to leave. At least we know what will happen next: PSLE, O's, A's and then uni. But my daughters were the brave ones, not afraid of another new frontier, so I just came dutifully. Viola! What surprises await us, the opportunities, the friendship and the standard of living! Most of all, the people who are socially so much more aware, my kids get to learn as well. And, every country is dangerous, we just have to be prudent.
No country is perfect, so at least when I am here, I will appreciate everything about this place, until we move again.
Don't know when. -
Mychildren:
Like!Dnls_mum,
Don't be mistaken. Not asking anyone to leave. Just stay & if there are greener pastures & opportunity comes, then you may choose to or not to. Don't be easily influnce by anyone, you should decide your own life or path to go. For my family, we just leave it to God for things that we cannot change.
I still proud to be a Singaporean.
:offtopic:
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I cannot stand it when someone paints Singapore as some impossible place to live in. Are you really living overseas now with almost everything free? Who exactly pay for everything that is free? The country you are living in now must be very rich. Must be Brunei, i heard there is no taxation there. If not could it be some oil rich middle east countries? Everything is free and cheap. Almost paradise. Their time zones also not that dissimilar to us thatβs why you donβt have to post at your unearthly local time.
I just wonder if everything is so bad here and you have found your utopia, why are you still bother? If you still care for Singapore, will all your comments help? I donβt know who you really are but if you are indeed very happy overseas now, maybe you can leave our βproblemsβ to us singaporeans to sort it out ourselves? -
Dnls_mum:
This is a long story. We identified only 2 schools for DSa application. HCI and NJC. HCI cos DS from Nanyang and he wants to go where his friends went, and also he wants to be like mum and Dad. DH from Chinese High then Hwa Chong, me fm Hwa Chong. Then we encourage him to try another one. Went for talks by many schools and DS, DH and I all like the NJC programme very much. DH and I very Bo chap, so did not even realize at that time that NJC did not have SBGE.
Hi,comfy:
[quote=\"Dnls_mum\"]Agree Agree. That's why when my boy went to GEP, I insisted that he take up CCA that is not academically linked! No Comp Science, Robotic or even Math Olympiad. I made him join scouts! He was the only GEPer in Scouts! :rotflmao: I want him to mix with others and enjoy outdoor group activities.
It worked! He is now in IP school (NJC) but not GEP school and has no problem mixing with his other classmates. He is doing well in school and his teacher did notice that he is very fast with maths and always had alternative solutions and so asked us and was not surprise when we confirmed he came from GEP. He now does accelerated maths which is good for him as he was already showing signs of being bored with the general math curriculum. His teacher has asked him to be a peer tutor, and he has our blessings to share his knowledge with his classmates.
Again, his CCA now is Canoeing and not in some acedamically linked CCA, and he is enjoying it and mixing well with all regardless of academic strength.
So frankly, we can make the best of the situation and it is up to us parents to decide how we want our child to grow up
I like your sharing and just wonder why you send your ds to NJC instead of those IP school that have SBGE prog? I just wonder if there any differences between IP with SBGE and without. Does the GEB still monitor your ds progress? TIA.
Then he got rejected by HCI and was devastated, and good news came from NJC. We only realized then that NJC no SBGE. I wrote to MOE to ask if there is difference. The Director of GE called me personally. She explained that there used to be GEP in Sec school. The current secondary schools with SBGE were all the previous sec GEp school. When MOE did away with the sec GEP programme, these schools continued with their own programme. NJC was never a sec school and so was never a GEP school so don't have SBGE lor. She assured me that NJC is also a gd school. She said that they keep track of all their GEPers, even those who have finished school! Dunno to believe or not
So we decided to accept the DSA (ks lor don't want to end up with nothing :rotflmao: ) and DS did not participate in the SI selection exercise. Anyway we heard that last year NJC accepted very few thru DSA so DS was super lucky that he did well in the test and interview.
When result came out, DS teachers ask me to consider putting him in a SBGE school that is an independent school. Said that DS cannot get scholarship in NJC cos it is not an independent school and wasted his GE status by going to non-SBGE school. I told teacher never mind no scholarship. I can afford the NJC School fees of $23 a month! :imcool: :rotflmao:
We have no regrets putting DS in NJC. He is very happy and performing well. He is very good at Maths and science, does decently in English but horrendous in Chinese. He is not super hardworking, so I think he will die in HCI. We like the NJC programme so far, very diverse and out of the box.
Imagine that for class music project, each group given a decade like 60s, 70s....to 2000s, then have to come up with a performance to enact the music of that era. Or whole class given a drama project ie, from script writing to production. This is what I call education! Then they have one terms of boarding every year in junior high. Best thing, cheap school fees and get students from different family background! But DS did have some prob cos science teacher said he ask too many questions
:rotflmao: , so call him disruptive. But we talk to him and he now understand to ask only when teacher has completed teaching something and has extra time. Not ideal, but that's life :). For Maths, teacher wants him to show step 1,2,3...., he jump from 1 - 3. Got marks deducted. But never mind la. Teacher say in A level paper max 2 marks can be deducted from whole paper for not showing all steps! :rotflmao:
Now i don't care whether the GE branch monitors my son's progress or not! :imcool: But I think his GEp did help him cope with the NJC IP programme which focus a lot on independent learning.
Sorry if I :offtopic:[/quote]Thumb-up, like! I was thinking whether you will reply but you did and it is such a generous sharing. Thanks for taking your time to write. I am really enlighten by your sharing as I & my dd will have to decide by next year. I was just thinking whether is there a need to send her to sec sch with sbge but now I have a better understanding. For my dd's point of view (regarding GEP), the teachers do make a difference besides the programme. Umm... your comments regarding NJC's teachers do make me think harder. -
HVR:
Keep cool.... keep cool..... Don't need to be so......I cannot stand it when someone paints Singapore as some impossible place to live in. Are you really living overseas now with almost everything free? Who exactly pay for everything that is free? The country you are living in now must be very rich. Must be Brunei, i heard there is no taxation there. If not could it be some oil rich middle east countries? Everything is free and cheap. Almost paradise. Their time zones also not that dissimilar to us that's why you don't have to post at your unearthly local time.
I just wonder if everything is so bad here and you have found your utopia, why are you still bother? If you still care for Singapore, will all your comments help? I don't know who you really are but if you are indeed very happy overseas now, maybe you can leave our 'problems' to us singaporeans to sort it out ourselves?
OK, lets think & solve the problem. But I've no power to change anything yet.
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Mychildren:
Keep cool.... keep cool..... Don't need to be so......HVR:
I cannot stand it when someone paints Singapore as some impossible place to live in. Are you really living overseas now with almost everything free? Who exactly pay for everything that is free? The country you are living in now must be very rich. Must be Brunei, i heard there is no taxation there. If not could it be some oil rich middle east countries? Everything is free and cheap. Almost paradise. Their time zones also not that dissimilar to us that's why you don't have to post at your unearthly local time.
I just wonder if everything is so bad here and you have found your utopia, why are you still bother? If you still care for Singapore, will all your comments help? I don't know who you really are but if you are indeed very happy overseas now, maybe you can leave our 'problems' to us singaporeans to sort it out ourselves?
OK, lets think & solve the problem. But I've no power to change anything yet.
:torchme:
You ask people to cool down and you go and torch people...add oil to fire leh....
should use liang teh...
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