Is GEP really necessary?

[2ppaamm]

Nebbermind:

think DSA is good coz if done properly, the school will take into consideration the other achievements such as CCA, leadership appt, awards, CIP etc. and this will provide a better balance within the school.

Besides the very 'neighbourhood' sports, most DSA are elitist too! And, I say it as a parent with 2 children who went through DSA, so no sour grapes again.

If you are good in soccer etc, you can get into sports school, Ahmad Ibrahim. Good DSA. But if you want to go into RI, ACSI, HCI, RGS, etc, you will need music ($$$) , swimming ($$$), tennis ($$$), sailing ($$$), badminton ($$$), gymnastics ($$$).... O what nots. BTW, I am not sure which school gives DSA for top leader. Maybe I am ignorant. My guess is there won't be a school. What awards would a good leader bring to the sec school immediately? Schools are fast becoming businesses.

Even going to SOTA, you need ($$$$), that's why it is fast becoming a safe haven for the middle class.

Where is the level playing field?

Balance is not for the student. In our schools, balanced students are rarely rewarded. It is the SCHOOL that is balanced. Balanced by a whole lot who will win academic awards, and another lot who will win sports awards. Very few students are balanced. In fact, if you are not good enough, you are not wanted in a CCA. C'mon, why is a 13 year old too old to learn anything? Nonsense! My friend picked up gymnastics at 13 in school and went on to top the nation 3 decades ago! haha. I am outdated again.

[concern2]

verykiasu2010:

concern2:

[quote=\"2ppaamm\"]And really, forget about the GEP DSA. Nonsense!

:rotflmao: That's more straight to the point. But hor, it takes a lot of thinking and analyzing for parents to come to this conclusion. Probably the 1 percent of parents. Hahaha!

yes, parents who have gone through the GEP being the top 1% would be able to analyse that, so, GEP is still needed so that they could say it is nonsense, otherwise nobody knows how to say it is nonsense

the one who says it is nonsense is really gifted must be the top graduate from the GEP cohort ...... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:[/quote]
I wouldn't draw such conclusions. I only meant to say few parents would do extensive thinking and analyzing to derive the redundancy of GEP. But come to think of it, really hor, if haven't been through it, how to know it is nonsense leh?

[verykiasu2010]

2ppaamm:

Where is the level playing field?

at a higher level; it is level

:evil: :evil:

[concern2]

2ppaamm:

Even going to SOTA, you need ($$$$), that's why it is fast becoming a safe haven for the middle class.

So not really based on talents either? What is the criteria to get in? Why middle class?

[jtoh]

I would do away with PSLE. But wouldn't this add more pressure and stress to parents who feel it is imperative their child gets into a good school at P1? Notwithstanding that all schools are good in Singapore? :evil:

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

I would do away with PSLE. But wouldn't this add more pressure and stress to parents who feel it is imperative their child gets into a good school? Notwithstanding that all schools are good in Singapore? :evil:

all the schools are good in singapore (compared with some other countries), but no same good to all parents leh

[2ppaamm]

concern2:

2ppaamm:

Even going to SOTA, you need ($$$$), that's why it is fast becoming a safe haven for the middle class.

So not really based on talents either? What is the criteria to get in? Why middle class?

You need $$$$ to pursue performing and visual arts. The schools won't be able to prepare the students well enough. It is all those professional teachers, renowned teachers. The bigger the dollar, the better guide you will get.

[Nebbermind]

2ppaamm:

Besides the very 'neighbourhood' sports, most DSA are elitist too! And, I say it as a parent with 2 children who went through DSA, so no sour grapes again.


If you are good in soccer etc, you can get into sports school, Ahmad Ibrahim. Good DSA. But if you want to go into RI, ACSI, HCI, RGS, etc, you will need music ($$$) , swimming ($$$), tennis ($$$), sailing ($$$), badminton ($$$), gymnastics ($$$).... O what nots. BTW, I am not sure which school gives DSA for top leader. Maybe I am ignorant. My guess is there won't be a school. What awards would a good leader bring to the sec school immediately? Schools are fast becoming businesses.

Even going to SOTA, you need ($$$$), that's why it is fast becoming a safe haven for the middle class.

Where is the level playing field?

Balance is not for the student. In our schools, balanced students are rarely rewarded. It is the SCHOOL that is balanced. Balanced by a whole lot who will win academic awards, and another lot who will win sports awards. Very few students are balanced. In fact, if you are not good enough, you are not wanted in a CCA. C'mon, why is a 13 year old too old to learn anything? Nonsense! My friend picked up gymnastics at 13 in school and went on to top the nation 3 decades ago! haha. I am outdated again.

I'm not talking about pure CCA DSA.

Anyway, I'm sure how the school assess the applicants besides those GAT/HAST tests etc...donch them put some weighage in those things presented in the portfolio?

[2ppaamm]

verykiasu2010:

jtoh:

I would do away with PSLE. But wouldn't this add more pressure and stress to parents who feel it is imperative their child gets into a good school? Notwithstanding that all schools are good in Singapore? :evil:

all the schools are good in singapore (compared with some other countries), but no same good to all parents leh

O goodness! Where did you get this data from? Singapore schools have since lacked far behind, but of course, we must not admit it.

[Nebbermind]

2ppaamm:

You need $$$$ to pursue performing and visual arts. The schools won't be able to prepare the students well enough. It is all those professional teachers, renowned teachers. The bigger the dollar, the better guide you will get.

Same for sports...maybe less $$$ than those above. Even students who are in the reserves have their personal coaches outside otherwise cannot even sniff the school team.