Is GEP really necessary?

[verykiasu2010]

ksi:

verykiasu2010:

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Apart from communicating with art, the art of communication becomes better when one is refreshed.

wow, Dr Wolf Ksi is so artful .... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:you are certainly very gifted

Yes plastic surgery..you want? :evil:[/quote] :siam:

[2ppaamm]

verykiasu2010:

ksi:

Apart from communicating with art, the art of communication becomes better when one is refreshed.

wow, Dr Wolf Ksi is so artful .... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:you are certainly very gifted

I agree! :evil: always so much to learn from the artful way of communication.

[ForumWriter]

2ppaamm:

But when I say that I have taught many students from GEP, and have kids from GEP, you say it is logical fallacy. Don't want to say anymore. Let you win, like my 18-year-old like to say. I'm off! :siam:

No, I just don't think that you are treating me (or others) at the same level as yourself. You are definitely not posting in the tone in which you would treat an equal.

You seem to be using the sentence structure \"I'm a teacher so I know\" etc. But we must recognise that this is not exactly true in all cases.

You don't hang out with GEP kids as peers for 7 years. You don't know what GEP kids confide in their peers. You don't know what goes on in school behind the backs of teachers or away from parents. You probably have heard of, but have never experienced the automatic discrimination of GEP kids by certain others just by having the \"GEP\" label affixed to their class.

What you do know is these: The study habits of GEP kids, the problems of bringing up GEP kids, the problems of teaching GEP kids.

There is no denying that you are able to contribute with your vast experiences, but that does not mean that others can't know more than you in certain niche areas.

[2ppaamm]

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[Snow Crystal]

ForumWriter:

I don't care about credentials. My only point of stating that I was from the GEP is so that I can share my experiences about the GEP and correct common misconceptions. That is my only intention of joining this forum in the first place, since I figured too many unsubstantiated rumours about the GEP were buzzing around..

Forum Writer, firstly I appreciate your sharings especially about IP, DSA, GEP, A levels grades inflation etc. Your refreshingly frank sharings about that post exam talk about effectiveness of IP and the reaction from your VP were really an eye-opener. I also nodded my head about your comment on the students' standard deterioration... :sad: For me, I always like to hear students' real thoughts of their schools. I hope you will continue to share your insights and history about IP as a pioneer batch student. Over time, things have changed in IP though...hopefully for the better

Hope you don't find this aunty lor li lor sor (llls) but.... do dust some EQ on when you put across remarks instead of sounding like you are engaging in some debate...For example, in All About GEP thread, your sentence 'I don't believe GEP students should be made to slow down for others in the IP to catch up' sounds a bit offensive to mainstreamers and undermines efforts of the mainstreamers who work so hard to get into IP.

Pam is a humble person and her uni students greatly respect her.
I believe you are probably waiting to go uni or is already a university student and if so, hopefully will not/ is not under Pam :rotflmao:
Besides academic excellence, brushing up people skills and learing how to bring out ideas in a convincing non confrontational way are very important too... you will realize when you go out and work. :grphug: :xedfingers:

[2ppaamm]

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[ForumWriter]

Snow Crystal:

Hope you don't find this aunty lor li lor sor (llls) but.... do dust some EQ on when you put across remarks instead of sounding like you are engaging in some debate...For example, in All About GEP thread, your sentence 'I don't believe GEP students should be made to slow down for others in the IP to catch up' sounds a bit offensive to mainstreamers and undermines efforts of the mainstreamers who work so hard to get into IP.

Well, I do believe that is the truth, isn't it?

The advent of IP was based on the premise that just because a student can enter into a \"top\" school, he/she can learn more complicated stuff at the same pace as a GEP student. Besides, by this point, they reasoned, late bloomers would have caught up in academic standards. But as others have pointed out, high ability does not equate to gifted and gifted also does not equate to scoring well.

Perhaps, you do have a point though: From my batch, GEP students tend to fare better than mainstream students in boys schools, but they tend to be similar or even worse off than mainstream students in girls schools when comparing average marks.

[PiggyLalala]

2ppaamm:

Chenonceau:

I am creative. In the presence of competition, I freeze. You create best when you play... when you do something for the love of it. When you are driven by something inside of you, not outside.

Excellent post 2ppaamm!! :goodpost:

I also don't like competition. In fact, I cannot do well when faced with direct competition. As an adult, I resort to differentiating myself, and tend to do things differently rather than do the same thing as others better than another person to excel - to very good results! And yes, I became known for my creativity as well.

You have made me think that perhaps it is this dislike for competition that made us creative. Great to hear from you, Chen!

Hi 2ppaamm, u are really creative. 2ppaamm has another meaning besides 2 papa and mama?

[2ppaamm]

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[verykiasu2010]

2ppaamm:

Not creative in this case at all lah. :evil: I should also change the nickname. Any creative ideas? Mama-san was badly received by DH, so maybe something more interesting. :evil:

my old fleur eyes always misread it as 2ppm, which is pretty good for zero defect target