Is GEP really necessary?
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errr… I think EEIS is given to top 3% plse scorer for mainstream n not the top one-third of pupils in PSLE. overall, Top one third of pupil in ip schools only but majority filled up by geppers!!!
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Melodies:
errr... I think EEIS is given to top 3% plse scorer for mainstream n not the top one-third of pupils in PSLE. overall, Top one third of pupil in ip schools only but majority filled up by geppers!!!
That's incorrect.
EESIS is for students enrolled in INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS, not integrated programme schools.
There are only about 500 GEPpers each year and not all of them will be in independent schools. How many students are there in independent schools? Thousands?
So long as any student meets the cut-off for EESIS and is enrolled in an independent school, through train or not, he will be given EESIS. The scholarship isn't limited by numbers but by performance. -
BTW, I am now confused who is addressing what to me. Don't short cut my nickname, otherwise, I don't know whether you are referring to me or another person, so I don't know whether to respond or not, K?
I have also asked Chief to change my nickname so that it is easier for everyone, I know this one is a bit cryptic. -
Wait… a bit confused now. I recall some kids who are in independent schools who score well within the 1/3 (about 235) but still have to pay the $200-$300 school fees, then those who score above about 265 don’t have to pay any. Which are we talking about now?
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PiggyLalala:
EESIS is awarded only to GEP students who continue their education in independent secondary schools. And for those who go to Independent Schools but choose not to opt for SBGE, they're not awarded EESIS either.[/color]
2ppaamm:
I am sure we are all grateful when given some opportunities. If we were to assume IQ is distributed equally among people of all social status, then for every GEP child whose IQ is higher than their parents', there is also another 99 less capable children with IQ higher than their parents'. They would need that EEIS or scholarship for the rest of their education more than the GEPers who are financially well off.
I think the EEIS that are given to the GEPpers who do not do so well in the PSLE will not deprive the mainstream pupils from getting it.
EEIS is for the top one-third of pupils in PSLE and who are going to the independent schools. Hence, my interpretation, would be as long as pupils did well in PSLE and belong to the top one-third, he qualifies for the EEIS. So the EEIS that was given to the GEppers who did not do so well, will not deprive another top students from getting it. Furthermore, it is not an entitlement to all Geppers who did not do well. The GE branch will also look into the child performance and attitude/behaviour in their 3 GE years.
The above is only my interpretation, please correct me if I am wrong.
GEP students who get into independent schools via DSA and subsequently do not meet that school's COP are not that many. Top schools are very discerning in who they give DSA COs to. The 80% minimum score for P5 and P6 results already cuts off the weaker students. (Note: weaker compared to the whole GEP cohort. But the majority of these students do score at least 250 in PSLE). -
slmkhoo:
Needless to say, I have to agree that educated home makers are the most important resources in our society, and I am not exaggerating. I say this not to downplay the importance of working mothers, nor non-educated mothers. But as a mother and considerably highly educated, I think I added more value to my family, my husband, my children and ultimately to the society much more than if I were uneducated.Mychildren:
To me, all my certificates are useless now as I'm now a homemaker.
I really hope you aren't serious when you say that! I am one of those highly-educated homemakers that people probably think 'wasted' her education. I have been a SAHM for the past 15 yrs. I would almost certainly have tried to return to the workforce, at least part-time, if we had lived in Singapore, but with constant moves overseas and having to help kids adjust, monitor schoolwork, homeschool etc, it's not been possible to do more than the occasional small freelance job. Still, I like to think that I add value to my kids' home environment and overall education, and the things I studied do help. I know they appreciate my being at home for them (although they grumble too). And you may want to re-enter the workforce eventually. I do, when we finally return to Singapore next year.
I admire traveling spouses, there are so many sacrifices to make, so many things to juggle with, and so many things to deal with - the children's education as they move from place to place (I know because I have to deal with this frequently as well), keeping the family together, helping everyone get used to the new culture etc. All these are so important. Hey, even doing groceries is a challenge!
We have downplayed the role of SAHM in the name of advancement, I think to a sad outcome. Many women equate their worth to the pay check, but you know, pay check comes in different forms. It can come in the form of a scholarship, kids who need less tuition (because mother is more educated), and kids who are out of trouble (because mum is always there for them, kids who will be successful in the working world with successful careers and husbands who have better increments because family is taken care of.
I am not a SAHM, but I dare say I spend more time than many moms with my kids and do much more with them and for them. I have never felt any of my education has been wasted because I did not maximize my earning potential. The intangibles derived from the sacrifice is so worth it. The country will not function as well without these educated and super smart moms who choose to stay at home and become role models. We need them more than ever! :grphug: :celebrate: -
jtoh:
Just ONE is enough to cause dissent and unfairness. Question is not the number, it is the double standard. As for the EEIS, which does not seem to tally with what I witness, maybe because there was a change somewhere, seems to have no purpose at all, giving two different criteria for GEPpers and non, because by logic, a GEPper should fair above that 1/3 mark. Since GEPpers also take PSLE, then this double standard logically serves no purpose at all. :skeptical:
GEP students who get into independent schools via DSA and subsequently do not meet that school's COP are not that many. -
jtoh:
EESIS is awarded only to GEP students who continue their education in independent secondary schools. And for those who go to Independent Schools but choose not to opt for SBGE, they're not awarded EESIS either.PiggyLalala:
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I am sure we are all grateful when given some opportunities. If we were to assume IQ is distributed equally among people of all social status, then for every GEP child whose IQ is higher than their parents', there is also another 99 less capable children with IQ higher than their parents'. They would need that EEIS or scholarship for the rest of their education more than the GEPers who are financially well off.
I think the EEIS that are given to the GEPpers who do not do so well in the PSLE will not deprive the mainstream pupils from getting it.
EEIS is for the top one-third of pupils in PSLE and who are going to the independent schools. Hence, my interpretation, would be as long as pupils did well in PSLE and belong to the top one-third, he qualifies for the EEIS. So the EEIS that was given to the GEppers who did not do so well, will not deprive another top students from getting it. Furthermore, it is not an entitlement to all Geppers who did not do well. The GE branch will also look into the child performance and attitude/behaviour in their 3 GE years.
The above is only my interpretation, please correct me if I am wrong.
GEP students who get into independent schools via DSA and subsequently do not meet that school's COP are not that many. Top schools are very discerning in who they give DSA COs to. The 80% minimum score for P5 and P6 results already cuts off the weaker students. (Note: weaker compared to the whole GEP cohort. But the majority of these students do score at least 250 in PSLE).[/quote]Thanks for the clarification. You have the facts nicely written. -
2ppaamm:
Wait... a bit confused now. I recall some kids who are in independent schools who score well within the 1/3 (about 235) but still have to pay the $200-$300 school fees, then those who score above about 265 don't have to pay any. Which are we talking about now?
The EESIS are awarded up to the top one-third of the total number of Secondary One pupils admitted to all Independent Schools (IS), based on their PSLE results. NOT top 1/3 of the PSLE cohort. Refer to Jtoh's post. Sorry if my earlier post had caused confusion. I hope I got it right this time. -
PiggyLalala:
Ah... I get where the confusion is now.2ppaamm:
Wait... a bit confused now. I recall some kids who are in independent schools who score well within the 1/3 (about 235) but still have to pay the $200-$300 school fees, then those who score above about 265 don't have to pay any. Which are we talking about now?
The EESIS are awarded up to the top one-third of the total number of Secondary One pupils admitted to all Independent Schools (IS), based on their PSLE results. NOT top 1/3 of the PSLE cohort. Refer to Jtoh's post. Sorry if my earlier post had caused confusion. I hope I got it right this time.
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