Aristocare
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I wasn’t suprised that the newspaper played a huge part in contributing to his high profile success. He was featured in the newspapers a few time and whatever he said, it was published without any question. He wouldn’t have landed himself in this hot soup if he hasn’t over step his confidence that the Education Ministry wouldn’t rebut his claims. Reminds me of Durai from the NKF. Now that the truth is finally out, I am sure alot of parents are angry with him, after paying all those high tuition fees. This explains why, taking a leaf from my old bad experiences, that I am always a staunch propagandist to parents to personally check on the credentials of the tutors who will be coaching their children. If any tuition agencies or centre act sheepishly and suggested otherwise, you will know something is fishy lurking underneath. Good tutors are like GEMS. When you are lucky to have one, make sure you don’t give them away. They are usually booked months ahead.
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worrisome_dad:
I wasn't suprised that the newspaper played a huge part in contributing to his high profile success. He was featured in the newspapers a few time and whatever he said, it was published without any question. He wouldn't have landed himself in this hot soup if he hasn't over step his confidence that the Education Ministry wouldn't rebut his claims. Reminds me of Durai from the NKF. Now that the truth is finally out, I am sure alot of parents are angry with him, after paying all those high tuition fees. This explains why, taking a leaf from my old bad experiences, that I am always a staunch propagandist to parents to personally check on the credentials of the tutors who will be coaching their children. If any tuition agencies or centre act sheepishly and suggested otherwise, you will know something is fishy lurking underneath. Good tutors are like GEMS. When you are lucky to have one, make sure you don't give them away. They are usually booked months ahead.
liddat newspaper also at fault for not verifying their reporting . :spank: -
osim:
SBGE ends in Sec 2 because of subject streaming? After sec2 there are special programs to continue to cater for GE kids or any other late bloomers with special talent.
I was about to ask if Gep prep classes are really effective. I always think gifted means gifted, no need artificial aids prior to/during the gep selection. Hence don't quite understand why need prep class :scratchhead:Imami:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
some parents are deluded to think that being charged a high price means must be good, and surprisingly when the child got into GEP (due to his/her own ability rather than anything else), then the parents credit it to the money \"well spent\"...
this is a wake up call that GE ability could not be trained. if the kids have it, they have it. if not, it is just wasting money and pressuring the kids needlessly. parents should understand why SBGE ends at sec 2.
Is this chap the only one offering gep prep class? Ok, I am just curious - is
gel prep class common/popular?
Verykiasu2010, you are also gifted leh, with words
Actually, sometime I think I am quite O Sim for not helping my kid much. When I try to help her, she has to explain to me certain things first, after awhile I don't know who is helping who.
I just go do my cooking and not waste her time. Thank God she has a bunch of fantastic teacher guiding her.[/quote]the few sec school principals that I interact with told me this (rationale for SBGE ending at sec 2)
1. non-GEP / late bloomers would have caught up with GE kids by sec 2, so called leveling up. GEP / head start advantage is over. the rest are hard work / smart work
2. if by sec 2 they are not at similar (note : not necessary identical) level of understanding or progress, then it just means they are of different/\"lower\" level of academic ability
:siam:
3. there will always have a small minority who are truly truly gifted and are the \"outlyer\" in the normal distribution curve, they are out of the curve
in the pursuit of success for their kids, some parents just missed the critical due diligence and believed every thing in print or in cyber space
I am always critical of those centres that boast of who who who studied with them ..... it may be just for one subject for one term ....but they claim all the credit. the real credit should be the kids themselves (hard work) and their school teachers & parents who provided the support and environment -
verykiasu2010:
Hi, verykiasu2010,
the few sec school principals that I interact with told me this (rationale for SBGE ending at sec 2)
1. non-GEP / late bloomers would have caught up with GE kids by sec 2, so called leveling up. GEP / head start advantage is over. the rest are hard work / smart work
2. if by sec 2 they are not at similar (note : not necessary identical) level of understanding or progress, then it just means they are of different/\"lower\" level of academic ability :siam:
3. there will always have a small minority who are truly truly gifted and are the \"outlyer\" in the normal distribution curve, they are out of the curve
in the pursuit of success for their kids, some parents just missed the critical due diligence and believed every thing in print or in cyber space
I am always critical of those centres that boast of who who who studied with them ..... it may be just for one subject for one term ....but they claim all the credit. the real credit should be the kids themselves (hard work) and their school teachers & parents who provided the support and environment
(Base on the words highlighted in blue above.)
So I still have hope on my 2nd DS who is lazy and find play no. 1 instead of studies and who cannot sit still and need a lot of sleep at this moment.
Hope he mature by that time and I can close both eyes to do my own things.
Not that he is gifted or have special talents, I meaning late bloomer in turns of getting serious in his studies by himself diligently. :roll: -
Mychildren:
yes, Mychildren got hope
Hi, verykiasu2010,verykiasu2010:
the few sec school principals that I interact with told me this (rationale for SBGE ending at sec 2)
1. non-GEP / late bloomers would have caught up with GE kids by sec 2, so called leveling up. GEP / head start advantage is over. the rest are hard work / smart work
2. if by sec 2 they are not at similar (note : not necessary identical) level of understanding or progress, then it just means they are of different/\"lower\" level of academic ability :siam:
3. there will always have a small minority who are truly truly gifted and are the \"outlyer\" in the normal distribution curve, they are out of the curve
in the pursuit of success for their kids, some parents just missed the critical due diligence and believed every thing in print or in cyber space
I am always critical of those centres that boast of who who who studied with them ..... it may be just for one subject for one term ....but they claim all the credit. the real credit should be the kids themselves (hard work) and their school teachers & parents who provided the support and environment
(Base on the words highlighted in blue above.)
So I still have hope on my 2nd DS who is lazy and find play no. 1 instead of studies and who cannot sit still and need a lot of sleep at this moment.
Hope he mature by that time and I can close both eyes to do my own things.
Not that he is gifted or have special talents, I meaning late bloomer in turns of getting serious in his studies by himself diligently. :roll:
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verykiasu2010:
yes, Mychildren got hope
(pun intended)
:rotflmao:
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Flowermonaster:
Wow... i can still remember which pri sch i attended, colour of my uniform, my first few days at school, the dirty boy sitting infront of me who pee at anytime of the day, i was a prefect, cca, blah blah blah..... I also graduated from my pri sch more than 30 yrs ago. Since i remember so many things, i must be a super genius. My mom didnt tell me. I guess i know more than my mom as i attended the sch, not her!I pity his mum - being used as an excuse for his lies. Honestly how can someone forgets or don't remember which Primary school he attended? Did he thinks we r juz born yesterday or we r juz too dumb? :mad:
I graduated from my Primary school more than 30 years ago & still can remember the 2 primary schools I went to. -
Lynn2010:
You see, all of us are gifted and geniuses in our own right and ways.
Wow... i can still remember which pri sch i attended, colour of my uniform, my first few days at school, the dirty boy sitting infront of me who pee at anytime of the day, i was a prefect, cca, blah blah blah..... I also graduated from my pri sch more than 30 yrs ago. Since i remember so many things, i must be a super genius. My mom didnt tell me. I guess i know more than my mom as i attended the sch, not her!Flowermonaster:
I pity his mum - being used as an excuse for his lies. Honestly how can someone forgets or don't remember which Primary school he attended? Did he thinks we r juz born yesterday or we r juz too dumb? :mad:
I graduated from my Primary school more than 30 years ago & still can remember the 2 primary schools I went to.
But sometimes we need our good loving moms to remind us of that. And sometimes they hope we live their dreams.
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worrisome_dad:
I wasn't suprised that the newspaper played a huge part in contributing to his high profile success. He was featured in the newspapers a few time and whatever he said, it was published without any question. He wouldn't have landed himself in this hot soup if he hasn't over step his confidence that the Education Ministry wouldn't rebut his claims. Reminds me of Durai from the NKF. Now that the truth is finally out, I am sure alot of parents are angry with him, after paying all those high tuition fees. This explains why, taking a leaf from my old bad experiences, that I am always a staunch propagandist to parents to personally check on the credentials of the tutors who will be coaching their children. If any tuition agencies or centre act sheepishly and suggested otherwise, you will know something is fishy lurking underneath. Good tutors are like GEMS. When you are lucky to have one, make sure you don't give them away. They are usually booked months ahead.
I supposed no one will expect a blatant lie in the public. -
verykiasu2010:
the few sec school principals that I interact with told me this (rationale for SBGE ending at sec 2)
1. non-GEP / late bloomers would have caught up with GE kids by sec 2, so called leveling up. GEP / head start advantage is over. the rest are hard work / smart work
2. if by sec 2 they are not at similar (note : not necessary identical) level of understanding or progress, then it just means they are of different/\"lower\" level of academic ability :siam:
3. there will always have a small minority who are truly truly gifted and are the \"outlyer\" in the normal distribution curve, they are out of the curve
in the pursuit of success for their kids, some parents just missed the critical due diligence and believed every thing in print or in cyber space
I am always critical of those centres that boast of who who who studied with them ..... it may be just for one subject for one term ....but they claim all the credit. the real credit should be the kids themselves (hard work) and their school teachers & parents who provided the support and environment
I actually disagree with the first statement. From my experiences, really gifted kids cannot be caught up with so easily.
In Secondary 2, one GEP guy forgot to bring a calculator. He ended up doing Taylor series to get the trigonomical values. Plenty could learn Gaussian Elimination without much difficulty. One even solved Schroedinger's equation on the whiteboard, stunning the teacher in the process!
No, I'd say that most \"late-bloomers\" don't catch up with the truely-gifted kids. By the time they learn algebra, the really gifted kids are well on to the next stage.
They do catch up with the not-really-gifted slackers though, that much is undeniable.
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