Aristocare
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Lynn2010:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".
Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours
good luck to your butt !
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ksi:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:Lynn2010:
My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".
Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours
:grphug:
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No worries. I find it amusing too....with Lynn's comments.
ksi:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:Lynn2010:
My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".
Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours
PS: Giftedgem, no offence to you on your sharing... We just need to have some laughter, the best medicine, after a horrible rumour. On a serious note, I also do not think caning is a completely bad thing if a parent knows how to exercise it. Only problem is not all parents know how to so advocating it effective can just be a teeny weeny bit dangerous if they do it wrongly... -
GiftedGem:
[/quote] :hi5: :celebrate:No worries. I find it amusing too....with Lynn's comments.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:ksi:
[quote=\"Lynn2010\"]My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".
Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours
PS: Giftedgem, no offence to you on your sharing... We just need to have some laughter, the best medicine, after a horrible rumour. On a serious note, I also do not think caning is a completely bad thing if a parent knows how to exercise it. Only problem is not all parents know how to so advocating it effective can just be a teeny weeny bit dangerous if they do it wrongly... -
On a more serious note,
The other side of Caning
:sad:
How Spanking Feels: Images and Words from Children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPES67rRjrU -
Zeng:
The fact that CASE came out and stated its stand in our national papers and inviting people to take legal recourse in this case is already quite unusual. We have to give them credit for this.
Nope, relevant authorities won't check. As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, why would the government get its hands dirty? It'll just sit back, relax, and let the disgruntled parents hire private investigators and lawyers.ForumWriter:
[quote=\"Zeng\"]Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?
If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors?
The forum letter from CASE already proves it, right? Instead of starting its own investigation to find out who was affected and take action against KO, it chooses to write a letter, inviting people to officially complain and seek legal action. Easy way out.
Of course, it's obvious that not everyone reads the papers/forums every day and could have missed CASE's message, but CASE doesn't care, does it?
I still stand by what I say: Parents should not get refunds since they were told by the government that GEP can't be trained (implication: GEP training sessions are useless/fake). But the government should still take action against KO just like any other scammer, instead of waiting for people to take their own legal action.
Under what law will the relevant authorities be able to take action against aristocare?[/quote]Yup, if there isn't a law, create one! Or set up an independent panel to make recommendations on how to deal with these sort of tuition centres (not necessarily take action). That's why we have MPs and Parliament. Lim Biow Chuan, president of CASE, is an MP. He should raise this issue of scamming up in Parliament as well.
There is a law against scamming already, just that no one enforces it. After all, Singapore is best-known in the world for its laws, right?
Don't have to go through such elaborate scam as KO. Simple one of collecting payment then not showing up will do. Last time for music lessons, we paid an entire month's worth in advance, but the tutor just showed up for the first lesson and subsequently AWOLed. Reported to the police, they filed the case but took no further action even though we provided his name, contact number and address for their easy reference.
Look at it realistically. It is almost impossible for parents to get the names of all the affected parents to file a class-action lawsuit right? But if the government just demands his records, it will have access to the names of affected parties immediately.
The government needs to take more pro-active action; if anything, it shows that it is determined to stamp out scamming personally. Instead of just sitting back because this matter falls outside of its responsibility. -
Spanking and caning works. I got it, and I was more worried if my parents had found out that I had it meted out to me the House Head, at school.
They stopped doing it here, in the UK, in 1987. "Spare the rod, and spoil the child" has led to what one poster on here mentioned as the UK’s poor governance and societal decline - and the riots that we had last summer.
Bring back the cane; I am an advocate. -
Errrrr… ok… seriously… i use the cane to scare my child.
My dds can tell me "Mummy, caning is a form of child abuse". It’s true…
Kids nowadays read widely, they know, unlike us when we were young. -
optimistforum:
Actually, I was hardly & the least caned among my siblings.Spanking and caning works. I got it, and I was more worried if my parents had found out that I had it meted out to me the House Head, at school.
They stopped doing it here, in the UK, in 1987. \"Spare the rod, and spoil the child\" has led to what one poster on here mentioned as the UK's poor governance and societal decline - and the rights that we had last summer.
Bring back the cane; I am an advocate.
But I am an advocate too. As long as we are in control of our anger/strength, when used sparingly and rationally, I believe it works. :spank: :spank: :spank: -
NickleBee Tutors:
I'm all for tough questions in the exams, it can be as tough as possible and I still say it is alright if the teachers teach students the techniques in answering such questions. Sadly, this is not the case. There is a big gap between what is taught and what is tested. It is this gap that is the crux of the issue, not the difficulty of the exams. As you have mentioned, the parents are finding it difficult to teach their children. That statement shows that the responsibility of teaching shifted to the parents, which is wrong.
Most parents think that the curriculum is getting harder, especially for Primary School Maths. I am sorry to disappoint but it is not so. What is happening is that MOE demands that their students master skillsets such as critical thinking, problem solving and heuristics which are skills much needed in the brave new world that is the 21th century our children will grow up in. Such skills are indeed tough for parents who were brought up to absorb knowledge unquestioningly and regurgitate the information during exams to get the appropriate marks. I personally approve of the way MOE is teaching maths nowdays but I believe that MOE could get better returns by perhaps having smaller class sizes when teaching problem solving skills and heuristics.
The responsibility lies with the teachers, not with the parents, not with the tuition agencies.
The difficulty of the exams should be in line with what is taught in classes. If MOE wants to raise the bar, then please raise the pedagogy bar first. This is akin to sending your athletes to the Olympics games by just telling the athletes to train 7 days a week on their own, with very little techniques taught to the athletes. In the end, all the athletes are forced to employ personal coaches in order to compete. When the athletes do badly in the games, the coach is fired. Did they blame the parents of the athletes for non performance ? It is very clear where the responsibility lies.
Have a look at the Maths Q&A threads. Most questions asked are the same type of questions over and over again, simply because, in spite of all the heuristics and modelling techniques, the analytical thinking skill is missing. Students just use it without understanding the analysis. Some posters will even say: \" I normalize the ratio, now I'm stuck\". They don't understand why they need to normalize, just memorize first step, normalize, 2nd step, .... They are just memorizing the mechanical aspects of solving the problem sum, it is still memorization and regurgitation, just of a different nature.
Coming up with more and more complex problems doesn't solve the issue, they are always ways to solve complex problems by looking for problem patterns without true understanding and analysis.
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