Population woes
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3Boys:
business decision lah..
limlim, its sometimes hard to understand these things. Even if profits were good but outlook going forward is bad, pay increment may not be prudent, adding headcount may not be prudent. Rather than $1, which is insulting, I'd not rather not give any increment.
Perhaps the Singapore unit was losing money? It costs a lot of money to conduct retrenchment, curious why they would do that to a profitable unit.
The customer chosen 2 sites (they don't want too diverse sources).. China and Thailand. various site at Philippines, Indonesia, SG etc cease operation.
No matter how cheap they can find workers in SG, they will have to shift.
Unless they don't sell to this customer.. -
limlim:
How does this even make any sense?
Govt never teach those sons of Singapore to do National Service and create employment for locals.... :spank:3Boys:
Closer to Singapore!
This is a Singapore company off shoring to other countries.
When President Obama asked Steve Jobs about iPhone production, Steve Jobs said, \"Those jobs aren't coming back\"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
The president’s question touched upon a central conviction at Apple. It isn’t just that workers are cheaper abroad. Rather, Apple’s executives believe the vast scale of overseas factories as well as the flexibility, diligence and industrial skills of foreign workers have so outpaced their American counterparts that “Made in the U.S.A.” is no longer a viable option for most Apple products.
Do you think Apple would be anywhere nearly as successful if they had to do everything in the USA? What good does it do for the USA to have a half baked and 'survival mode' Apple? If other global companies can source globally for talent and capacity, why kill our own local companies by constraining where they can place jobs?
You really really don't get it..... -
limlim:
Whatever the case, even during the agony of working for them, the company still paid you a salary, one you could take home and pay the mortgage and feed the family. You seem to completely dismiss that.
business decision lah..3Boys:
limlim, its sometimes hard to understand these things. Even if profits were good but outlook going forward is bad, pay increment may not be prudent, adding headcount may not be prudent. Rather than $1, which is insulting, I'd not rather not give any increment.
Perhaps the Singapore unit was losing money? It costs a lot of money to conduct retrenchment, curious why they would do that to a profitable unit.
The customer chosen 2 sites (they don't want too diverse sources).. China and Thailand. various site at Philippines, Indonesia, SG etc cease operation.
No matter how cheap they can find workers in SG, they will have to shift.
Unless they don't sell to this customer..
Now at least I know what drives your opinions, it's too bad you have such a skewed view of companies. -
Not too late to realize that
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3Boys:
of coz not.. bcoz it is not meant too..
How does this even make any sense?
didn't expect you to reply.. it's just a cheeky comment. guess that icon didn't serve its purpose....... :evil: -
3Boys:
What I gave to the company far outweighs what they paid me. After leaving the company then I realized the missed vast opportunities out there. Of coz it was my own mistake to have stayed in that company for so long.. I don't blame anyone or even the company. My point is, we need value jobs for local professionals.. some essential FTs is ok.. and these are usually hired from the HQ and sent here. But a lot of those FTs hired locally bcoz they are \"cheap\" are really quite bad for local employment situation. If the company have decided to go bcoz they can't have these half bucket cheap PMETs.. the company probably isn't worth retaining. Those talented locals in that company shouldn't have much difficulty finding employment if they were retrenched. For a company that values cheap over quality.... quite unlikely to appreciate their talented employees much.. probably..
Whatever the case, even during the agony of working for them, the company still paid you a salary, one you could take home and pay the mortgage and feed the family. You seem to completely dismiss that.
Now at least I know what drives your opinions, it's too bad you have such a skewed view of companies.
In the course of work, I had communicated with a few pinoy tech in other companies.. they are difficult to speak to (cannot understand the engrish).. and somehow their technical skill/abilities really questionable.. not sure how their company hired them. In contrast, the local techs seems much better.
However, the ones in my company are actually quite good and professional. So, in all fairness, there are indeed foreign talents or pple with good skills. But not all. So what I'm saying is.. govt need to tighten the control.. that's all.. not block them.. but have better regulation and don't anyhow import.. screen carefully.. get the companies to really justify them.
And.. I heard of many stories that FT managers tend to favor FTs and discriminate locals when their companies is hiring..(heard it is common in banking sector) this is very bad. What safeguard is there to protect the interest of locals? if fair competition, not so bad.,. but these discrimination ought to be dealt with IF it is true and not just hearsay.
Another thing.. some of those MNCs.. really cannot understand their business decisions.. it's like losing a few factories or a few months production is nothing to them.. if they are still so profitable with all those damages.. that means they can well afford operations in SG.. but for whatever reason they just don't want to.
Maybe more frequent flooding in places like Thailand will let them realise how wonderful it is to have a $10bil high tech plant in SG after all. -
limlim:
That's exactly what we've been trying to tell you.
Another thing.. some of those MNCs.. really cannot understand their business decisions.. it's like losing a few factories or a few months production is nothing to them.. if they are still so profitable with all those damages.. that means they can well afford operations in SG.. but for whatever reason they just don't want to.
SG ain't as attractive as you make it out to be, compared to other places.
So please, no more flippant \"We have other reasons why companies want to be here.\"
We're in a fight, and we gotta fight hard. -
Yes… but not at the expense of the well-being of locals please…
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limlim:
Yes.. but not at the expense of the well-being of locals please..
Fight means must make some sacrifice lah! Not at some cost, then what kind of fight are we putting up?!
If other people willing to make sacrifices but Singaporeans cannot, then how to win the fight?
If we lose the fight, the well-being of locals WILL be compromised!
Why you still don't get it? -
limlim:
Yes.. but not at the expense of the well-being of locals please..
Agree with you. GDP is up, TRF is down. FT descends on the infrastructures, local enjoys the crowd and inflation. What is happening now is very good for Singapore but not very good for Singaporean.
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