Population woes
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Dora1:
I am saying similar policies, can't the million dollar ministers and quarter million senior servants tweak it to SG context? Special skill could be chef, carpenter, plumber, construction builders? And for jobs like cleaners, if they advertised for x number of weeks with a pay higher than the min wage, then they allowed to hire FWs if no SCs respond. There are countries with similar policies. Bottom line is, look at what Singaporeans want and what the businesses need.
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Dora1:
The MOM quota is lump SC together with PR. There is no quota for PRs. And the previous few years, there were many Foreigners that were offered to convert to PR the 1st day they step on SG soil. So many workplace currently have almost 50% foreigners, many PRs who arrived in the last 3 years.
You are proposing to eradicate the competition of the brainy ones; but Singapore is not alone in this world, Spore is competing with the world. Who stand to lose, when Singapore lose the edge? Who is going to save us when Singapore goes into recession?mamago:
[quote=\"Dora1\"]Remember when I suggested that Fw is welcomed, because there are lesser and lesser SCs that want to do these jobs in the first place, due to the increasing education level of SCs. I also suggested that a min wage be put in place. That will help the SCs and the FW in these jobs to have a decent std of living. But for PMET positions, there should be enuf SCs for most of the jobs. For those jobs that really cannot find SCs, then FT is allowed. Be it FW or FT, it must be Citizens 1st. If cannot find then look for FW or FT. Plenty of countries have this policy. This will also prevent the situation that the SMEs are facing - cut in FW quotas in jobs that SCs will not do. This also called NIMBY?
And please, obviously not voting for all big and small decisions. Again it's the all or none attitude. MAJOR policies only. The European countries had national polling to decide if they wanted to join the EU/ euro zone. It is common in democratic countries to have voting for major national policies that determine the countries future directions. If I recall correctly, decision to open the floodgates to foreigners was not even debated in parliament. SCs only woke up one day to realize that there were suddenly that there were people every where and we suddenly became the minority in office and in our own country.
Accountability for the decisions makers? The person who made the wrong decision to stop building flats, and causing the HDB flats to skyrocket beyond the reach of most young Singaporeans is just happily retired, still getting $16k per month. There was no admission of mistake whatsoever till today. What accountability?
Btw, there are quotas for the hiring FT/FW vs locals, anyone cares to know? As far as I know, it's definitely not the 50% that you mentioned.
When I was in the work force, the quota was 1:10. It is never a floodgate.
(Actually, this statistic is available on MOM's website, enjoy reading!)
The HDB's price, it's determine by the market, everyone dreams of buying his flat at $195K and sell it at $1m 10 years later, no? Who to blame? I blame no one. The Housing Board is working so hard to keep the property market's balance. Those that won't sell their flat (an entitlement of SC) at a huge gain, you get my hugs.
The HDB market in SG is not subjected to true market forces. If the supply is artificially depressed and the demand is drastically increased, what happens to the price?[/quote]
Any statistic to support your 50% claim?
Artificially depressed? So that people's HDB flat price will go up, how wonderful... -
mamago:
I'm sorry, but with this attitude, how are we going improve. I already said, consider, look at implementation details. Tweak as appropriate. The SMEs are obviously struggling with this FW cut, and there are not enuf SC for these jobs. Isn't it time to think out of the box andcrelook at the situation? Cannot even consider other possibilities? The current system is really the best? All other suggestions are stupid, dun even need to consider?Dora1:
I am saying similar policies, can't the million dollar ministers and quarter million senior servants tweak it to SG context? Special skill could be chef, carpenter, plumber, construction builders? And for jobs like cleaners, if they advertised for x number of weeks with a pay higher than the min wage, then they allowed to hire FWs if no SCs respond. There are countries with similar policies. Bottom line is, look at what Singaporeans want and what the businesses need.
How to execute that? Will all employers be honest? How much manpower have to deploy just to execute what you proposed? -
Dora1:
The HDB market in SG is not subjected to true market forces. If the supply is artificially depressed and the demand is drastically increased, what happens to the price?
The supply of resale flats was drastically cut when the minister listened to the wailing mob that people with another property, whether in Singapore or abroad, should not be allowed to buy resale HDB flats. It was an emotive call, but it was a bad one. Suddenly, all those HDB owners who have already completed their minimum occupation period decided it was not a good idea to sell their HDB flats because they no longer qualify to get another one. COV shot through the roof as a result. -
There will never be a best solution, we are not living in the shangri- la land… But this so far work the best, thus we have affordable roofs, we have cheap meals, we have efficient and affordable transports, we have highly educated off springs… Our economy grow, our jobless rate is one of the lowest…
If no FT/FW, many many many local SME will move to Malaysia, Indonesia, Myanmar… or fold! -
Dora1:
I guarantee you that if they advertise PMET positions at minimum wage, there won't be any response from SCs with the necessary qualifications.
I am saying similar policies, can't the million dollar ministers and quarter million senior servants tweak it to SG context? Special skill could be chef, carpenter, plumber, construction builders? And for jobs like cleaners, if they advertised for x number of weeks with a pay higher than the min wage, then they allowed to hire FWs if no SCs respond. -
Jurong East MRT station is already the most congested station now.
I can’t imagine what will happen after the entire lakeside area become developed. No planning of extra transport capacity as of now. Even if they start planning now, it can’t go online in time. -
Any statistic to support your 50% claim?
Artificially depressed? So that people’s HDB flat price will go up, how wonderful…[/quote]
There was some population statistics published a couple of months back. SCs and foreigners are now 60:40. This was official gov stats, pls go and look it up. The SCs include retirees and kids. So if just compare the actual workforce, I think my estimation of 50:50 is not too far off. And this marches my personal experience as well.
The hdb flat supply was drastically cut because previously there was an oversupply. Many 1st timers were pushed to the resale market. However, at the same time that they cut the new HDB flats supply, many foreigners came here and was granted almost immediate PRs. Reduced supply plus increased demands, so what happens to flat prices? Google to find the number of new flats built by HDB per year for the last 10 years, and compare that with population growth for the same period, you"ll understand what I mean -
pirate:
hello, I said cleaners, not PMET!
I guarantee you that if they advertise PMET positions at minimum wage, there won't be any response from SCs with the necessary qualifications.Dora1:
I am saying similar policies, can't the million dollar ministers and quarter million senior servants tweak it to SG context? Special skill could be chef, carpenter, plumber, construction builders? And for jobs like cleaners, if they advertised for x number of weeks with a pay higher than the min wage, then they allowed to hire FWs if no SCs respond. -
xfx:
这是平民与老百姓的心声。 我们的苦，高尚的人是不会理解地。
自己的刀不够利, 却因此要求政府规定全人民不能用刀?
有时间应该用来思考如何磨利自己的刀，而不是禁止别人用！
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