Pat's Schoolhouse
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sooe:
oh my k1 class is 21:2.5 (0.5 is assistant tr). so consider within limit or not??mtdt:
[quote=\"smurfy\"]crystal
my boy's playgroup still with 15.. middle of the yr change to 16.
this yr nursery add on another 2 becomes 18.
(website put Low Teacher-Child Ratio: 1:9 for k1)
hi, my DS is in whitley & despite settling in fairly quickly in 1st mth, lately he is v unhappy & cries his heart out every morning. Can't figure out why especially since he's always been in childcare & was doing fine the first few wks. Anyone in whitley know if something happened?
And does anyone notice that the whitley assts speak atrocious english?[/quote]Hi how old is ur kid?
Asst- hmm which one? The one I come into contact hardly speak.. And everything I ask her, her reply is dun noe! So I give up and hardly talk to her. Will go direct to class Tr instead.
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Hi,
:? Just curious, what is the role of the asst teacher?
Do they teach? Or assist to teach?
Hope they are not there to make up the numbers for student teacher ratio.
Luckily Mt Emily do not have asst teacher....yet. -
I don’t quite understand why the class sizes of Pat’s go up so much in K2. We pay a very high fee and it’s because we want smaller class size. 21 in a class is too big. Chiltern House seems to have 14 in a class only. Mtdt - think you should complain.
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empressplace:
I don't quite understand why the class sizes of Pat's go up so much in K2. We pay a very high fee and it's because we want smaller class size. 21 in a class is too big. Chiltern House seems to have 14 in a class only. Mtdt - think you should complain.
One of the very main reason I finally did not choose to register at Patschoolhouse is due to the class size. I saw so many questions about why class-size so huge versus school fees. I think as parents we just need to accept this fact - that due to the high costs of everything from premises rental, teachers salary, inflation etc., most school can no longer sustain small class size unless they only have bare minimum facilities and programme plus support staff.
Therefore it is futile to ask all this questions about class size. If you want small class size (eg. 1:5 or 6), I think monthly school fees would be from SGD1,500 to SGD2,000 or more at least.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong. -
Does anyone know if Chiltern House follows the class size limit of 14? THe issue is Pat’s should at least stick to the class size mentioned on their website of 1:10. Fees should be proportional to class size. Otherwise older kids are subsidizing the younger classes. Infant care is known to be expensive because of the small ratio needed but I believe Pat’s charges the same rate at playgroup to K2 but class ratio increases over the grades.
I think some parents are prepared to pay higher rates if these schools can deliver what they want eg smaller class size, better food, nicer premises. -
empressplace:
Does anyone know if Chiltern House follows the class size limit of 14? THe issue is Pat's should at least stick to the class size mentioned on their website of 1:10. Fees should be proportional to class size. Otherwise older kids are subsidizing the younger classes. Infant care is known to be expensive because of the small ratio needed but I believe Pat's charges the same rate at playgroup to K2 but class ratio increases over the grades.
I think some parents are prepared to pay higher rates if these schools can deliver what they want eg smaller class size, better food, nicer premises.
Hi empressplace,
I believe Chiltern House does follow what they mention. I'm not too sure abt K1 since my girl is currently in N1. The ratio is 2:12. -
mtdt:
Mine is turning 3. I thk several yrs younger than urs. The assts I've met so far speak 'perfect' singlish. I don't profess to speak well but it's certainly appalling when a child starts inserting la & lehs when he never used to. Why would I pay a bomb only to hv him speak this way? Also noticed the assts hv bad attitude. Really wasn't this bad at the previous branch. I've a whole list of other observations that aren't v encouraging. Kinda disappointed.Hi how old is ur kid?
Asst- hmm which one? The one I come into contact hardly speak.. And everything I ask her, her reply is dun noe! So I give up and hardly talk to her. Will go direct to class Tr instead. -
Zoukie:
Just wondering whether does Chiltern House provide regular cirriculum update on what the children have been learning during the week and next?empressplace:
Does anyone know if Chiltern House follows the class size limit of 14? THe issue is Pat's should at least stick to the class size mentioned on their website of 1:10. Fees should be proportional to class size. Otherwise older kids are subsidizing the younger classes. Infant care is known to be expensive because of the small ratio needed but I believe Pat's charges the same rate at playgroup to K2 but class ratio increases over the grades.
I think some parents are prepared to pay higher rates if these schools can deliver what they want eg smaller class size, better food, nicer premises.
Hi empressplace,
I believe Chiltern House does follow what they mention. I'm not too sure abt K1 since my girl is currently in N1. The ratio is 2:12. -
DC Mummy:
Hi DC Mummy,
Just wondering whether does Chiltern House provide regular cirriculum update on what the children have been learning during the week and next?
Yes, Her teacher will email me every week on what they had learn for the week. We are given term calendar (like time table) in the beginning of the term. -
Yes but the thing is, on the Pat's Schoolhouse official website, they OFFICIALLY state that they have a low ratio of 1:7 for this age group.
When I registered my dd and asked the ex-principal about this, she told me firmly that there would be max 14 kids in the class. Anyone who has visited the school can see that the classroom isn't really that big too. This MCYS ratio of 2:24 might be acceptable in a childcare which charges only few hundred dollars a month, but for a \"premium\" one that is charging us $1300+ a month?!
I visited the new campus @ Raffles and their classroom is even smaller, with same ratio!! (2:14) That's the one with the $1700+ fees. So you see, higher fees does not translate to lower ratios...
Not sure if this is because ever since Knowledge Universe took over, they may have become more profit-minded than before. Remember that they also own Odyssey, which was beset with problems at their Alexandra campus (if you read the expat forums you'll see alot of expats complaining about how they were so $$$-faced which resulted in high turnover, teachers not caring about the children, parents felt like the staff only cared about $$$ and not the kids' welfare, etc)
That's why the Alexandra Odyssey closed down and was converted to Pat's. BUT, the same management that owns Odyssey also owns Pat's!crystalbelle08:
Hi Zow,
Actually 15kids to 2 teachers has already exceeded what they are suppose to have for playgroup which is 2:14
http://www.patschoolhouse.com/programmes/playgroup/curriculum
Hope they will really stick to 15 and not slowly increase to 16 and then 17....
In any case, the mcys guideline is 1:12!
So they have the right to increase to 2:24! :stupid:
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