Networking Group - JCs General
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jtoh:
Just wanted to point out that I don't think 80% or more of the cohort at your dd's JC was IP students. Total candidature that year was 1,229. RI and RGS cohort is approximately 400 each. So they make up maybe 66% or thereabouts. And yes, many JAE students do perform as well as IP students, and GEP students really are like other kids.[/quote]thanks jtoh for the correction. she is 1 IP mum i look up to. :rahrah:
have to disagree with this, not because it was specific to my kid. At the Honours Day at the end of the 2 years IP JC, those who had straight As made it to the honours list. In the list were a good number of JAE students. Of course there were more IP students in the list as about 80% or more of the cohort were IP students. Not forgetting that even those who did not have straight As and did not make it to the honours list, many of them had perfect 90 rank points or high 80s. My DC's JAE friends all did well in their IP JC.zeemimi:
[quote=\"zbear\"]I have 2 children who graduated from JC - one is from IP, the other is from JAE.
Speaking from my experience only (others may think differently), there is a marked difference in the academic calibe of both IP and JAE and it shows at JC level. JAE students need a lot of hardwork, determination and peservance to catch up with IP students.
As a general observance, the 2-3 pointers (COP was 3 that year) who made it to DC's IP JCs were rather consistent in their academics. Generally you can't tell much difference between the JAE/IP then, at least for my DC's case. Was surprised that some of the IPs were GEPs, and really, they blended with everyone else and you couldn't tell them apart had they not reveal their background. I don't think it was a breeze for the IP students in JC. I see the JAE/IP students helping / teaching one another.
Another of my kid was put into a GEP class in Sec3 Sec 4. Their academics are on par with each other, whether they were GEP or not.
And so i tell my kids, you will never be at the top always. Neither will you be at the bottom always.
Life is like a heartbeat monitor, it goes up and down. If it is straight, it means you are dead. -
:rahrah: @zeemimi,
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zeemimi:
LOL...super good phrase!! :udawoman:
And so i tell my kids, you will never be at the top always. Neither will you be at the bottom always.
Life is like a heartbeat monitor, it goes up and down. If it is straight, it means you are dead.
Agree that kids who were deemed smart can be left by the wayside one day should they not work hard, and kids who were not deemed as smart in the early days can well catch up and leave others in the dust. -
Other than 300 students increase in CJC, anybody knows the intake increase for other JCs?
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Hi all
My ds is doing his O levels this year…He is undecided between a JC or Poly and is only focused on clearing his O’s. He does very well for Maths/A Maths/ Science (com) A1s but lags in MT and EL - C5s. Character wise he is an introvert and spends his weekends studying and completing homeworks. Our main aim as parents is for him to go to a local Uni and get a degree and JC seems the most viable option. Nwdays the cut off points seem lower and lower and i presume my ds is about 10-12 pointer in O levels.
What would be your advise as he has not mentioned any career paths aside from prob teaching. He seems a sure hit for most poly courses but wondering if GP might be a hill too high in JC for him? Not expecting the top JC but the 2nd tiers (if there is such lol) are an achievable option. -
Jaydazzlerz:
Some general things to consider:Hi all
My ds is doing his O levels this year..He is undecided between a JC or Poly and is only focused on clearing his O's. He does very well for Maths/A Maths/ Science (com) A1s but lags in MT and EL - C5s. Character wise he is an introvert and spends his weekends studying and completing homeworks. Our main aim as parents is for him to go to a local Uni and get a degree and JC seems the most viable option. Nwdays the cut off points seem lower and lower and i presume my ds is about 10-12 pointer in O levels.
What would be your advise as he has not mentioned any career paths aside from prob teaching. He seems a sure hit for most poly courses but wondering if GP might be a hill too high in JC for him? Not expecting the top JC but the 2nd tiers (if there is such lol) are an achievable option.
- to get into JC the calculation is base on L1R5. Either one language must be used. So the C5 will drag down his whole score. Suggest u get a good English tutor for him who can troubleshoot his weak areas and pull up his grades. English is not a subject that anyone can study alone in isolation and improve without some expert insider tips. Chinese as long as he passes he can go to JC.
- Of the other 5 subjects, 1 must be a humanities subject. Focus on pulling up this grade if possible. Otherwise it will drag the whole score down.
- Since he excels in math and science, would he consider going straight to an engineering/biomedical course in poly? Engineering is very suitable for introverts. I doubt he will like teaching a big group of students if he’s an introvert (I am one myself and prefer smaller group or individual interaction).
- GP in JC will require wide reading of current affairs. Besides the language part of it, you need to discuss on paper the pros and cons and give your opinion at the end. It is perfectly possible to pass GP by memorizing scores and scores of sample essays, then applying them to various similar topics. Teachers will not recommend this of course (they prefer thinkers not regurgitates), but if desperate I’m sure it will work. -
abachee:
I think our dc might be in the same JC that enjoy sea breeze the entire day. She was clear and glad she made the choice despite she could have made it to top 1 choice. A lot of her peers are in the top 1 “choices” now. She enjoyed the reporting day today and commented that she is glad that she can have a life besides studying.
(PS If you guys are wondering which JC my child posted to, your guesses is as good as mine. For those who have known me in other secondary sch chat in this forum. You would have guess it. It’s the JC which enjoy all day sea Breeze) -
zbear:
This is not true for VJC. The IP students are very good in critical thinking. But when it comes to content, drilling subjects, the O levellers are better, they know how to score.I have 2 children who graduated from JC - one is from IP, the other is from JAE.
Speaking from my experience only (others may think differently), there is a marked difference in the academic calibe of both IP and JAE and it shows at JC level. JAE students need a lot of hardwork, determination and peservance to catch up with IP students. -
abachee:
Why blend? Go supersede the IPs, the sky’s the limit! The A levels is a level playing field for all.
Bingo!! You were right about that. Ultimately it’s still up to the individual student attitude and ability to catch up fast and find it’s feet and blend with those smarter IP ones or else they will struggle. -
zac's mum:
I hv come to understand that for GP, you don’t hv to hv super powderful Engrish.
- GP in JC will require wide reading of current affairs. Besides the language part of it, you need to discuss on paper the pros and cons and give your opinion at the end. It is perfectly possible to pass GP by memorizing scores and scores of sample essays, then applying them to various similar topics. Teachers will not recommend this of course (they prefer thinkers not regurgitates), but if desperate I’m sure it will work.
Just write clearly, write rationally with loads of justification in your writing to convince the reader. An A is within reach.
But you are right, memorisation might help get a pass. Getting that A will require further thought.
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