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    • B Offline
      buds
      last edited by

      soomum:
      I didn't know this.... 😒 😒 😒 😒 😒

      Now... now... we'll troubleshoot this together okies? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php
      buds:
      In phonics enrichment classes, focus is given
      to learning letter sounds and not the alphabets/letter names. The idea
      is to introduce and enhance the reading process using phonics, not letter
      recognition.
      soomum:
      there was no warning signs..as in her teacher didn't bring up to me that not knowing the letter names is critical, knowing that my gal only knows the letter sounds.. wat's your view?
      I wouldn't use the term critical. Advantage... YES.

      Teachers wud usually (i guess) assume that children are exposed to
      the ABCs / letter names prior to going to school. If your child IS in a
      Montessori school, chances are language lessons are done via
      Phonics only & not much or no emphasis may be given to letter
      names in order to not confuse the children with the letter
      sounds we teach... that we practice in our Montessori
      Phonics.

      I do get children who come in knowing ABCs and say...

      Eg.

      Directress : What sound does this letter make? Anyone knows?

      Child : Yes, i know! It's \"c\". (cee)

      Directress : Yes, it is the letter \"c\" and this letter makes the sound....?

      Child : /c/! (c-uh)

      Directress : (Reinforces) Yes, good. This letter makes the sound /c/.

      We will NOT say that the child is wrong, cos the letter is \"c\". πŸ˜„
      So, we use positive reinforcement instead to gear them towards the
      letter sounds from the letter names they have grown to know & love. πŸ˜‰
      buds:
      For younger children, do expose them to the alphabets and the shape of the letters... do tracing activities... craft activities... matching activities & singing alphabet songs and many other stuff together when they are home with you.
      soomum:
      by younger children, how old is this range you are referring to?
      Errr... from birth? πŸ˜„

      What i mean is... during the duration the child is not yet enrolled into a
      school, doesn't matter Montessori or not... ideally (at least for me) that
      children are introduced to the ABCs first.
      buds:
      May i know how old is your child again, soomum?
      soomum:
      she is 3 yrs old.
      Roger that. Thanks for clarifying again.. πŸ˜„
      soomum:
      How can i help her to learn the letter names now??? I am now at a lost as to how to proceed or maybe should i even proceed on with her. i.e. has taught her letter sounds - introducing letter names *now made her confused 😒 *
      buds:
      I will need to know the age of your child before i make some suggestions. One way will be, YOU teach the letter names ie. the alphabets. Let the teacher teach the sounds..... for now. Until your child is more comfortable handling both simultaneously from you. In the meantime, what you can do is not to say she is wrong but instead, reiterate that for example... 'b' makes the sound /b/ : b-uh.
      soomum:
      So you mean i (being the first to teach her the letter sounds) can now teach her the letter names? without confusing her further? I just stop doing the letter sounds with her right? But she is so used to doing the letter sounds with me, what if she requests to do the sounds?
      Yes. If you're concerned that she IS indeed confused over letter names
      and sounds. You were the 1st to introduce to her letter sounds... not
      the teacher?

      If she insists, just go back to the example scenario i quoted above.
      Provide lots of positive affirmation. :hugs: Don't worry unduly. I figure
      from your sharings that you are still in the early stages, so the issue is
      not as worrying as it might seem.. πŸ˜‰
      soomum:
      - next step is building words is it?
      buds:
      Yes, it is. Wordbuilding is helping children to listen to sounds in words...
      beginning with 3-letter phonetic words. During this stage, i usually
      encourage parents to read rhymes with children llike these ones...

      Diddle Diddle dumpling, my son John..
      Went to bed with his trousers on..
      soomum:
      i should wait till she knows her letter names and sounds well before proceeding to wordbuilding right?
      For 3-letter word building... Yes. You are right.

      Unless of course she is confident enough... & have learnt enough sounds
      to be able to form simple 3-letter phonetic words. No rush for a 3yr old. πŸ˜„

      You can however start to sound her out on the first sounds she can
      hear in words. Like if you are on a bus... and she has learnt the sound
      /b/ (b-uh).... you may casually ask like playing a game... \"Hey, we're in
      a bus... the word b-us begins with the sound.... hmmm...? Do you know?
      Do you know the first sound in the word bus?\"
      buds:
      soomum:

      ... this to teach in conjunction with learning to write the letters or need to already be able to write?

      This can be done for both learning writers and confident writers. This is
      where the initial alphabet activities comes in extremely handy and timely,
      especially if they were to start Phonics lessons around 4yrs old... earliest
      would be 3.5yrs old. Children who are confident writers from what i have
      observed can even do independent spelling with simple 3-letter words the
      centre has covered with them. They can easily associate writing down...
      c-a-t when the directress says please spell for me c-uh... aaaahhh... t.
      They usually have no issues co-relating alphabets and letter sounds.

      soomum:
      how do one assess a child is ready for learning to write? my gal likes to trace dotted lines/letters with markers. is it the right time now to teach her to hold a pencil and trace the dotted letters? when do we 'wean' off the dotted lines?
      If she seems to enjoy such activities, yes.. by all means, go ahead.
      You can also reinforce the pincer grip (essential for writing) by asking
      her to do transferring activities like transferring marbles with a soup
      spoon... or it can be beans or nuts as well... transferring using
      chopsticks... and also tongs... cutting & pasting activities... painting &
      printing activities... or even helping you peg the laundry too. πŸ˜„

      Wean off dotted lines when she can scribble lines more clearly as in you
      can define what she is drawing or writing... like stick people... simple fish
      shapes.. (etc) Stencils do help too. Feel free to catch up on my All About
      Handwriting sharings to get some ideas, if you are keen to find out more. πŸ˜‰
      soomum:
      sorry for my many questions. this is my first time teaching a pre-schooler and realises that it is not as easy as others portray it to be.
      It is not easy cos every child is different. They have different personalities.
      Different learning styles and preferences. For parents who are doing it for
      the 1st time, they may need some trial and errors before they find a style
      that fits. So for you, since you're keen on this style... you can also read up
      more on the methodology to gain more insight.

      And never apologize for asking.. :hugs: I will try my best to help you when
      i can... and when i am not distracted chatting with other friends here. :oops:
      You're my biggest fan! How can i ever forget ya? :love:

      Fondest Regards, buds. πŸ˜‰

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      • J Offline
        Joeyz18
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        chatelaine:
        Hi Joeyz18


        I have only viewed the one at Jelapang, will visit CCK CC this Sat.

        Where you stay?
        chatelaine,

        i staying at bt panjang. i prefer jelepang is nearer to me but was told no slots available for nursery so i visited cck branch today. But i don't really like the area.. how's your visit? your kid is in nursery next yr too?

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          drumstick
          last edited by

          Hi


          What’s the environment like at cck? Me gog down on tuesday to take a look. Heard no aircon.

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          • J Offline
            Joeyz18
            last edited by

            drumstick,

            i actually still prefer landed property based CC for my son, more spacious for them to move ard. my visit was to survey the area today.

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            • S Offline
              sunshine05
              last edited by

              My son is 5.5 years old. He is quiet and shy in a class setting. To encourage him to speak up more, is it better to try mix-aged montessori class or the conventional class (all same age group but 10 ~ 15 students) setting? He’ll be in K2 next year.


              Thanks!

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              • soomumS Offline
                soomum
                last edited by

                Dear Buds!


                Thank you for the replies. :thankyou: Now i have a better idea on how to guide my gal along.

                The thread post seems too long hence i'm replying in a fresh post in case you wonder why...

                Yup! I am the one who taught my gal the letter sounds.:oops:
                My gal is in a montessori school and yes the teacher only teaches phonics to them. She assures me that they reinforces letter names to the child by saying: 'c-uh' is the sound of c as in 'cee'. Guess i'm too ks and kan cheong right :oops:

                Yup! i'm reading up on the book Basic Montessori which gave me lotsa heads up on activities which i can do but did not. so these are going to keep us busy for quite some time.

                Update on my gal, she is now starting to accept the letter names after i tried a few methods and found that singing the simplest abc song catches her interest most. so now she know letter c, b, g.

                One thing i observed lately is that she would occasionally sound the letters she sees around her like the vehicles on the road, books in her hands, on paper carriers etc. This led me into thinking if i should introduce more sounds like 'ee', 'oo', 'ue' etc to her? Can you offer some viewpoints? kam siah

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                • chatelaineC Offline
                  chatelaine
                  last edited by

                  Hi Joeyz18


                  I’m also staying in BP. I visited CCK branch last Sat. The place is clean, spacious, non aircon and kids have water play outside near lift area. Hubby complained a bit far and morning always jam on the way there.

                  Heard from the teacher, the current CC has changed 3 management. Can’t really remember the name. Teacher speaks good English.

                  My DD will be in Pre-Nursery and DS in PG next year. Currently, waiting for Jelapang branch to get back to me on the vacancy.

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                  • J Offline
                    Joeyz18
                    last edited by

                    chatelaine,

                    my boy is bron in 2008, same as your DD right? they might be classmates next year πŸ˜‰

                    i would prefer jelapang since is nearer to me. do you know where the jelapang children have their water play? i do not know cos i have not visit the jelapang branch yet and was told no more vancany til next yr and I am on their waiting list right now. you also in their waiting list? you prefer which one after visitng?

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                    • B Offline
                      buds
                      last edited by

                      soomum:
                      Dear Buds! Thank you for the replies. :thankyou:

                      Now i have a better idea on how to guide my gal along.
                      I just want to assure you that there shouldn't be any drastic problem
                      with your girl's situation as of now. I'm sure your daughter is in good
                      hands... yours and the teachers in her school. πŸ˜‰
                      soomum:
                      The thread post seems too long hence i'm replying in a fresh post in case you wonder why...
                      It's ok. I prefer it like this. It's neater. πŸ˜‰
                      soomum:
                      Yup! I am the one who taught my gal the letter sounds.:oops: My gal is in a montessori school and yes the teacher only teaches phonics to them. She assures me that they reinforces letter names to the child by saying: 'c-uh' is the sound of c as in 'cee'.
                      Yes, some do. It's good that you shared your doubts with the teachers
                      as they have now helped to clear any doubts you may have had. πŸ˜„
                      soomum:
                      Guess i'm too ks and kan cheong right :oops:
                      Most 1st time parents are like you... :hugs:

                      :lol: It's a normal phase, sweetie.. :lol:

                      Patient teachers are always at hand to guide parents along, especially
                      those who are ever so willing to learn how to guide their children at home. πŸ˜„
                      soomum:
                      Yup! i'm reading up on the book Basic Montessori which gave me lotsa heads up on activities which i can do but did not. so these are going to keep us busy for quite some time. Update on my gal, she is now starting to accept the letter names after i tried a few methods and found that singing the simplest abc song catches her interest most. so now she know letter c, b, g.
                      Well, sometimes the best place to look is to begin from the easiest. πŸ˜‰
                      soomum:
                      One thing i observed lately is that she would occasionally sound the letters she sees around her like the vehicles on the road, books in her hands, on paper carriers etc.
                      This is fantastic! :celebrate:

                      This just goes to show she has the ear for phonetic sounds. πŸ˜‰
                      soomum:
                      This led me into thinking if i should introduce more sounds like 'ee', 'oo', 'ue' etc to her? Can you offer some viewpoints? kam siah
                      Try not to introduce extra sounds (especially not combination sounds
                      like those you have posted above) apart from what the teacher is
                      currently teaching.. The phonograms are in green scheme.

                      If you read up more on the Montessori Phonics method, there are 3 colour
                      schemes in Montessori Phonics. Pink being the 1st level where introduction
                      to single letter sounds and coverage of 3 letter phonetic words are being
                      covered. Next is blue scheme, where the blends (double/triple
                      consonant blends) are being introduced and finally the green scheme
                      where the phonograms will be introduced..

                      So in short, if you were planning to teach the above sounds you posted
                      above, then you are going way too far... Even our enrichment students
                      take almost a year to get there. :shock: So... you do have to be careful
                      of the pace you're taking to teach her... so as to avoid confusing her all
                      over again. For example, if she now knows the letter e : as \"eeee\" and
                      that it also makes the sound \"eh\"... if you were to introduce and show
                      her /ee/... which makes the same \"eeee\" sound....ermmm... 😐 .... i
                      would not recommend you go there yet, if you know what i mean.. :scared:

                      In your excitement to teach your girl, try not to delve to far beyond what
                      you have now just finally begun to grasp from the methodology.

                      Sometimes, slow & steady DOES win the race. πŸ˜‰

                      Parents must also understand there is still such a thing as age-appropriate
                      learning pace. Go easy, yeah? She is doing very well as it seems... just
                      for now, your support is required as a double up to what the school is
                      doing.

                      You can do extension activities with her at home to complement and
                      strengthen the concepts that the school is teaching her at the moment.
                      Apart from the reinforment of activities, also do try to borrow more lively
                      picture books that promotes rhyme and song as these are extremely
                      great for pink scheme enforcement. πŸ˜„

                      You may also want her to listen to audio CDs that have nice catchy
                      rhyming in them as well. Young children can absorb a lotta input from
                      listening to music and cheerful catchy music keeps their tongues wagging
                      (those rhyming words).

                      If you haven't already gotten the Ants On The Apple Songbook + CD, you
                      may consider getting one for her. Do ask if your daughter's school sells
                      them so you have less hassle of ordering it. Of course you can always get
                      them easily online here too.. πŸ˜‰ > http://r2learntoys.com/31-Ants-on-the-Apple-Song-book-and-CD.html

                      I do not recall it being that pricey though.. 😐 ... for i got mine for less than
                      the amount sold on this webbie. Nevertheless, it is a good buy. πŸ˜‰

                      Another suggestion is that you can also encourage her to read sight word
                      books with you.. I have posted a few over at this thread. >http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3082&highlight=thematic+readers.

                      I have a few more other collections to share as well. πŸ˜‰

                      Alternatively, there are also a gazillion phonics readers out there in the market as well. :celebrate:
                      You may again find out which ones the school is using and see if they are able to lend it to parents.
                      I know of some schs that practice loan of books from their school library. πŸ˜„

                      In the meantime, have fun with your daughter, yah? :love:

                      Regards, buds. πŸ˜‰

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                      • chatelaineC Offline
                        chatelaine
                        last edited by

                        Hi Joeyz18


                        Yup! My DD same yr as ur DS πŸ˜„

                        I never ask Jelapang branch where they had their water play. While I were at CCK branch, I \"soon bian\" ask the teacher. She told me the children had water play somewhere near the lunch area which I can't imagine how as the place is quite small for water play + aircon.

                        Both my kids on waitlist. CC can only confirm with me mid Oct. Hubby prefer Jelapang branch as it's nearer and less hassle.

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