Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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limlim:
I totally agree on this. I stay opp of Rulang. Last year there was only a miserable 10 places at phase 2C. This has a cascading effect on the next nearest school which is Shuqun, where balloting also occurred for SCs <1km in Phase 2C, because everybody in the neighbourhood went to Shuqun. I wanted to avoid a balloting situation so I didn't even try for Shuqun and went straight for a school within 1-2km with no balloting at Phase 2C. Every morning, the traffic around Rulang is a complete nightmare. And at the same time, we have to struggle to get out of the traffic nightmare to get to another school 1-2km away. How logical is that?Less travelling, less congestion, everyone happy including those that has no school going kids and nothing related to education. Including Alumni who travels to go to work, also benefit from less traffic, even if their kids cannot get into the school.
Alumni priority only benefit those minority who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it. Distance priority potentially benefits EVERYONE in the country that travels in the island, Regardless of whether they take private car or public transport.
The arguement about alumni creating diversity doesn't apply for all schools, only for schools around Bukit Timah/newton area. For schools like Rulang, Nanhua and St Hildas which are surrounded by HDB flats, other than creating crazy traffic situations and tired parents and children, what is the advantage of alumni priority? Esp in situations like Rulang, where the children had to be redistributed to other neighbouring schools, which actually caused the other schools in the area to end up with a balloting situation (Shuqun, lakeside).
Actually for bukit timah, there are HDB flats within 2 km (farrer side or toh yi side). We cannot possibily have policies just for the benefit of the couple of schools in newton. There are other popular schools in the heartlands where the \"diversity\" for the alumni priority is simply not valid.
Primary school registration is no longer my concern as my child is very happily settled in the not so popular school further away. But having been a victim of the alumni priority, I hope that the alumni priority should be capped at those living within 2 km radius. This would have the biggest benefit for the children as they dun have to waste time travelling, less traffic congestion for the immediate neighbours of the schools. I would like to invite the ministers of education and transport to take a look at the long line of vehicles exiting PIE and turning into corporation road, and then all the way to Rulang. This extremely long line of vehicles will mysteriously disappear during school holidays. And the fact that all these cars come from the PIE means that they don't stay around the neighbourhood! -
Sorry I am lazy to read all the 190+ pages. Maybe somebody already said this. Maybe every few years we should relocate the popular schools so the children in the school are from more mixed background?
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rains:
Now that citizen is given priority over pr, give it a few more years and there will hardly be any pr in all phases.We have the same argument over P1 registration every year nearing the P1 registration period, that the alumni phase ought to be done away with. Often, diversity of background is quoted for the argument.
The truth is, it's the alumni phase that offers the diversity of background. If priority is only given to the alumni who live near the schools, it's likely that only the rich can get into the schools.
Yes alumni phases will still have pr but the no will definitely be smaller than what we have now.
And I agree that alumni phase offers the diversity of background. -
limlim:
hmmm...\"alumni priorty only benefit those minority\", if it is so, the impact or influence to the seat taken should be less, so why the need to remove?Less travelling, less congestion, everyone happy including those that has no school going kids and nothing related to education. Including Alumni who travels to go to work, also benefit from less traffic, even if their kids cannot get into the school.
Alumni priority only benefit those minority who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it. Distance priority potentially benefits EVERYONE in the country that travels in the island, Regardless of whether they take private car or public transport.
secondly, \"who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it\"...errr...i believe all parents wish to get their children into branded school right? else we would not be discussing all these issues on enrolling children into these branded school isn't it? and \"wants to enroll in it\", well sometimes alumni members have no choice because all the nearby good schools are all taken up..let me ask a simple maths question, will you put your child in a nearby school (which are fully taken up) which subject you to balloting or in a school that confirm your place?
As for transportation, the assumptions are that
1) all children going to the branded school take private car
2) all the congestion in the road comes from children's private cars
3) school is inaccessible even with public transportation like mrt and bus
4) not much children take school bus (which takes more children in a vehicle than a private car). -
Well said Dora1 and limlim.
My friend has phase 2A priority to a "not bad primary school" and the branded full school as she is the alumni of the secondary division.
The "not bad primary school" is within 2km from her place. But the branded full school is very far. She eventually decided on the branded full school as it is an IP school. The bus journey home was an hour+ and on days with remedial or extra lessons, she has to take the 4pm bus home even though the extra lessons ends at 3pm.
The poor girl reach home at 5pm on such days and her work had detoriated.
She suspect its due to the long travelling and the fact that between 3pm to 4pm, she do not know what her girl is doing. The rest of the night, the girl can’t concentrate and she has to remove all her weekday enrichment. Cannot expect too much since she is only primary 2.
Her advice to me is distance is very important. It can drain out a kid unless you are able to drive her to and fro. Her daughter told her quite a number of her classmates were picked by mummies/chauffeurs. So guess for such students, distance doesnt really matter. -
The main reason why we are debating this is that majority of the parents wants to enroll in a popular school. Everybody has their own valid point.
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Nebbermind:
If alumni priority remains.. actually you're rite.. vacancy is fixed.The number of kids getting into each school is the same, be it alumni or non.
So the number of people who benefit remains the same. Or my math is D minus? :scratchhead:
If distance priority, then the number of pple who benefits potentially MUCH bigger.. as it now includes all the road users.. :evil: -
ngl2010:
Sorry I am lazy to read all the 190+ pages. Maybe somebody already said this. Maybe every few years we should relocate the popular schools so the children in the school are from more mixed background?
move them to pulau tekong beside the other boys schools.. :evil:
Fully support.. -
limlim:
Can lar... Relocate the popular schools to ulu part or islands of Singapore and we definitely have parents flocking to buy houses there. Anyway, we need space to accommodate 7 millions people so this way can distribute the population toongl2010:
Sorry I am lazy to read all the 190+ pages. Maybe somebody already said this. Maybe every few years we should relocate the popular schools so the children in the school are from more mixed background?
move them to pulau tekong beside the other boys schools.. :evil:
Fully support..
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lchunleo:
After reading nebber's post, I feel that there is no real net benefit from alumni priority. school vacancy is fixed.
hmmm...\"alumni priorty only benefit those minority\", if it is so, the impact or influence to the seat taken should be less, so why the need to remove?
secondly, \"who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it\"...errr...i believe all parents wish to get their children into branded school right? else we would not be discussing all these issues on enrolling children into these branded school isn't it? and \"wants to enroll in it\", well sometimes alumni members have no choice because all the nearby good schools are all taken up..let me ask a simple maths question, will you put your child in a nearby school (which are fully taken up) which subject you to balloting or in a school that confirm your place?
As for transportation, the assumptions are that
1) all children going to the branded school take private car
2) all the congestion in the road comes from children's private cars
3) school is inaccessible even with public transportation like mrt and bus
4) not much children take school bus (which takes more children in a vehicle than a private car).
As for the content on your later part of the post, it is irrelevant.
What is relevant is compare the traffic conditions on the road during school term and during school holiday.
Is there any difference? Everyone can judge.
No need to say further.
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