Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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Sun_2010:
I never say only the alumni should place their children in their schools. I only said the alumni priority shouldn't be removed.And children of parents who have not gone to branded schools have no capacity to learn ? Really , you think so?
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I doubt it a majority have that calibre. My personal experience of having 2 kids in a \"branded school\" shows me otherwise. And there are many many kids who started slow , pick up speed and zoomed along, while some early starters just cant stretch much further .
Besides if that is the intent then why alumini? Schools should hold tests , no? :?
Then again isnt the banding of classes for this very purpose? Of course that is another debate.
To say only those with alumini should be planted in that garden seems unfair. If fact it is unfair.
Being an alumini is an honour, not a privilege that should be milked.
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See how wildly different I can be misquoted?
It's fine by me if parents like to think that it's the teachers who make a difference. There really are teachers who make the diff. -
Karl12:
:goodpost:Is this priority system for alumni widely practise in the world?
On closer look, schools like Henry Park, CHIJ St Nicholas, Ai Tong, Catholic High,ACS, Nanyang etc, even before phase 2B, more than 80% is already taken up.
In fact,this alumni system is opening up to more people. For \"full schools\" like St Nicholas, SCGS, MGS, Catholic, Maris Stella etc, the alumni from their secondary school can also participate in phase 2A of the primary school registration.
The system should look at the benefits for the children. It can be very tiring for the kids to spend ridiculous hours on travelling time, especially when they are already subjected to CCA/ enrichment / tuition after school! By the time the poor kid reach home, he will be totally drained.
I remember taking my long bus journey back in my uni days. It was so tiring even though i was already in my early 20s.
Priority should continue to be given to alumni only if they are staying within 2-3km.
We should not allow children to be travelling all around Singapore to attend the choice school.
This sounds fair... alumni get the priority, but with condition that they are living within proximity. -
I find it strange that people like to target the alumni phase.
Why do people not see that phase 2B is the warped one? It’s one that’s fueled by kiasuism and elitism and thwarting something that’s supposed to be done with ultruistic intention into something that is done for a motive.
That is the phase that ought to be removed. -
rains:
Agree.
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The phases that truly don't offer a diversity of background is the parent volunteer and grassroots phases. If these people truly have a heart to serve the school and community, they should not be asking for rewards in return. The reward in this case would be the priority at P1 registration. What kind of values, attitude and thinking are we encouraging and promoting (for doing a service to the community)?
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Harlequin:
Then there's no diff between this and phase 2C. And it breeds elitism.
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This sounds fair... alumni get the priority, but with condition that they are living within proximity.
It also defeats the argument of wanting diversity. -
Why not do this..
Those qualify for P2A, 2 ballot slip.
Those qualify for P2B, 2 ballot slip.
Within 1 km, 1 ballot slip.
qualify for both P2A & P2B, 4 slips.
qualify for both P2A & P2B & < 1km, 5 slip
qualify for either P2A or P2B + < 1km, 3 slip
All ballot together. :evil:
Alumni also got priority mah..... just not \"absolute priority\"..
fair right? :evil:
who support? :evil: -
Dora1:
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I totally agree on this. I stay opp of Rulang. Last year there was only a miserable 10 places at phase 2C. This has a cascading effect on the next nearest school which is Shuqun, where balloting also occurred for SCs <1km in Phase 2C, because everybody in the neighbourhood went to Shuqun. I wanted to avoid a balloting situation so I didn't even try for Shuqun and went straight for a school within 1-2km with no balloting at Phase 2C. Every morning, the traffic around Rulang is a complete nightmare. And at the same time, we have to struggle to get out of the traffic nightmare to get to another school 1-2km away. How logical is that?limlim:
Less travelling, less congestion, everyone happy including those that has no school going kids and nothing related to education. Including Alumni who travels to go to work, also benefit from less traffic, even if their kids cannot get into the school.
Alumni priority only benefit those minority who are alumni and aim for branded schools and wants to enroll in it. Distance priority potentially benefits EVERYONE in the country that travels in the island, Regardless of whether they take private car or public transport.
The arguement about alumni creating diversity doesn't apply for all schools, only for schools around Bukit Timah/newton area. For schools like Rulang, Nanhua and St Hildas which are surrounded by HDB flats, other than creating crazy traffic situations and tired parents and children, what is the advantage of alumni priority? Esp in situations like Rulang, where the children had to be redistributed to other neighbouring schools, which actually caused the other schools in the area to end up with a balloting situation (Shuqun, lakeside).
Actually for bukit timah, there are HDB flats within 2 km (farrer side or toh yi side). We cannot possibily have policies just for the benefit of the couple of schools in newton. There are other popular schools in the heartlands where the \"diversity\" for the alumni priority is simply not valid.
Primary school registration is no longer my concern as my child is very happily settled in the not so popular school further away. But having been a victim of the alumni priority, I hope that the alumni priority should be capped at those living within 2 km radius. This would have the biggest benefit for the children as they dun have to waste time travelling, less traffic congestion for the immediate neighbours of the schools. I would like to invite the ministers of education and transport to take a look at the long line of vehicles exiting PIE and turning into corporation road, and then all the way to Rulang. This extremely long line of vehicles will mysteriously disappear during school holidays. And the fact that all these cars come from the PIE means that they don't stay around the neighbourhood!
Good analysis, Dora1.
MOE should read this.... if they want to tweak the alumni priority or any p school registration system. -
rains:
\"diversity\" is but one minor consideration (while still debatable whether P2A really promote it)
It also defeats the argument of wanting diversity.
There are other practical considerations which others may feel is much more important. -
rains:
I agreed thinking if with proximity condition attached, the alumni's children will be a much smaller pool thus freeing up more vacancies for the next phrase.
Then there's no diff between this and phase 2C. And it breeds elitism.Harlequin:
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This sounds fair... alumni get the priority, but with condition that they are living within proximity.
It also defeats the argument of wanting diversity. -
Wait… add 1 more for alumni… 3 ballot slips… since they are before P2B…
fair bo? good hor…?
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