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2ppaamm:
I thought WISC highest score is 160? Read about this somewhere.[That's why you see IQ tests have different editions, WISC is into 4th or 5th and SB is in 4th or 5th edition. These are the common IQ tests you'll have to take if your child want to skip grades in the MOE system. They have to score about FSIQ of about 160+ to skip a grade or two. You can skip up to 4 grades in Singapore...
Did you know that? There is not just a GEP branch in Singapore, there's the exceptionally gifted branch also... :idea:
Skipping grades only applies to lower primary kids, rarely the upper primary. Once they reach the GEP, it's hard to skip grades...
GEP = top 1%. Exceptionally gifted= one in 100,000. I think there were 2 ladies in MOE in charge of this there 1.5 years ago...
Just to share a hearsay from an acquaintance whose relative has a gifted child. That boy was accepted into Mensa & top in his school. His parents were told to wait patiently for GEP screening test at P3 because their son was not considered exceptionally gifted thus not good enough to be considered for grade skipping or qualify for any early intervention :!: -
sleepy:
Depending on what test you take, some tests can test up till 160, the SB's can test till 190 or even higher. Some tests are better for mildly gifted, some are better for exceptionally gifted.
I thought WISC highest score is 160? Read about this somewhere.2ppaamm:
[That's why you see IQ tests have different editions, WISC is into 4th or 5th and SB is in 4th or 5th edition. These are the common IQ tests you'll have to take if your child want to skip grades in the MOE system. They have to score about FSIQ of about 160+ to skip a grade or two. You can skip up to 4 grades in Singapore...
Did you know that? There is not just a GEP branch in Singapore, there's the exceptionally gifted branch also... :idea:
Skipping grades only applies to lower primary kids, rarely the upper primary. Once they reach the GEP, it's hard to skip grades...
GEP = top 1%. Exceptionally gifted= one in 100,000. I think there were 2 ladies in MOE in charge of this there 1.5 years ago...
Just to share a hearsay from an acquaintance whose relative has a gifted child. That boy was accepted into Mensa & top in his school. His parents were told to wait patiently for GEP screening test at P3 because their son was not considered exceptionally gifted thus not good enough to be considered for grade skipping or qualify for any early intervention :!:
Hm... I'm not psychologist leh, my research was done 2 years ago, so I forgot many things already... But I remember this little bit.
Also, I don't believe FSIQ is accurate, most kids are skewed. Good in some areas, and good in others, especially the twice exceptional ones. Singapore's formal system (as usual) will just look FSIQ.
About your friend's kid.... in Singapore's system, EG kids only come 1 in a year leh.... top in school not good enough la.... Mensa = top 2% only...
If he goes to another country maybe better. Go and read today's paper. That boy is probably not good enough to skip more than 4 grades either. Maybe they recommend him only 4 grades jump, so the parents jump! :lol: -
2ppaamm:
Just wondering, these kids given early intervention by gifted branch? dual enrolment recommended by MOE or carried out by their parents?
RI has some of them as well. They dual enrol into the NUS and NTU. They attend university classes.2ppaamm:
That kid is placed in a P6 class or still in P3 but capable of doing P6 level?
A kid I know is doing P6 at 9 years old. That's why our GEP also test at 9, as close to 'nature' as possible. -
sleepy:
No, the EG branch. GE branch caters to GEP students only, different groups. (As far as I know, things might have changed)
Just wondering, these kids given early intervention by gifted branch? dual enrolment recommended by MOE or carried out by their parents?2ppaamm:
RI has some of them as well. They dual enrol into the NUS and NTU. They attend university classes.2ppaamm:
That kid is placed in a P6 class or still in P3 but capable of doing P6 level?
A kid I know is doing P6 at 9 years old. That's why our GEP also test at 9, as close to 'nature' as possible.
He is in P6. I know a few such kids. Some parents resisted those changes. But, if these kids stay in their cohort, they normally have behavioural problems... If MOE test your kid and ask you to skip grades, it's better guay guay skip... ha ha! Unless you have other reasons... like autism or other special needs. -
2ppaamm:
That set me going around looking for alternatives: Checked when he can do 'O' levels in Singapore, 16 years old, 'A' levels, 18 years old. No way out.except to do them in outside the country.
2ppaamm:
Can take O level at 9 years old? As private candidate?Did you read newspaper today? A nine year old finished O levels, Ainan Celeste Cawley, and parents refused all help from MOE...
You mentioned earlier can't do O level earlier than 16 years old
Ainan did his O level outside Singapore? -
sleepy:
You guys are supposed to stick to the National Education!!! :nunchuk: I don't dare to say too much leh....2ppaamm:
That set me going around looking for alternatives: Checked when he can do 'O' levels in Singapore, 16 years old, 'A' levels, 18 years old. No way out.except to do them in outside the country.
2ppaamm:
Can take O level at 9 years old? As private candidate?Did you read newspaper today? A nine year old finished O levels, Ainan Celeste Cawley, and parents refused all help from MOE...
You mentioned earlier can't do O level earlier than 16 years old
Ainan did his O level outside Singapore? -
2ppaamm:
No, the EG branch. GE branch caters to GEP students only, different groups. (As far as I know, things might have changed)
He is in P6. I know a few such kids. Some parents resisted those changes. But, if these kids stay in their cohort, they normally have behavioural problems... If MOE test your kid and ask you to skip grades, it's better guay guay skip... ha ha! Unless you have other reasons... like autism or other special needs.
Can't find EG branch on MOE website. Wow, secret department?
Located GE branch website http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/programmes/gifted-education-programme/faq/exceptionally-gifted/ -
2ppaamm:
This is quite surprising to know because P3 placed in P6 class(if there are a few of them) would have made news since MOE is quite strict on grades jumping and has officially made statements that grades skipping is very very rare. Quite a number of super smart kids I know with good IQ scores also cannot jump 1 grade, not to mention 3, all rejected by MOE. In fact behavourial issue seems to be the last reason they will allow grade skipping. Those rejected were tested not suitable because of behaviour, not IQ scores. I am baffled by the difference in experience.
He is in P6. I know a few such kids. Some parents resisted those changes. But, if these kids stay in their cohort, they normally have behavioural problems... If MOE test your kid and ask you to skip grades, it's better guay guay skip... ha ha! Unless you have other reasons... like autism or other special needs.
There is one kid I know skip one grade because he is extremely gifted plus he has no behaviour issue. He has been winning competitions for his school and both his parents are gifted. -
ks2me:
Extremely gifted as in his IQ score in the 99.9 percentile?
There is one kid I know skip one grade because he is extremely gifted plus he has no behaviour issue. He has been winning competitions for his school and both his parents are gifted.
I heard from that aquintance, the boy's IQ score either 99 percentile or 99.5 percentile (I can't remember which) cannot skip even one grade :!: -
sleepy:
Clever girl... you must be gifted also! :celebrate:2ppaamm:
No, the EG branch. GE branch caters to GEP students only, different groups. (As far as I know, things might have changed)
He is in P6. I know a few such kids. Some parents resisted those changes. But, if these kids stay in their cohort, they normally have behavioural problems... If MOE test your kid and ask you to skip grades, it's better guay guay skip... ha ha! Unless you have other reasons... like autism or other special needs.
Can't find EG branch on MOE website. Wow, secret department?
Located GE branch website http://www.moe.gov.sg/education/programmes/gifted-education-programme/faq/exceptionally-gifted/
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