2008 PSLE Results

[Sniper Angel]

How to get individual primary school PSLE 2008 performance?

[Luanee]

Sniper Angel, some schools post it on their websites, some schools don’t. And different schools also use different numbers eg. some publish %A/A* and some use the average T-score. Guess u got to call the individual school to ask, MOE dont publish that.

[staxel]

claire:

Yes, at the end of the day, I still feel that if our kids put in their best, and we, as parents do our part to guide them , we should all be happy with the outcome. Other aspects of their live are important too, not just academic.

But of course, it is every child & every parent's wish to do well & be in a good school.
Nice having that short \"chat\" with all of you... BTW, I'm quite new in this forum.
Have a good & enjoyable school break

Hi,
Truly agrees with Claire.
My son is not the academically inclined. His Chinese teacher keeps scolding and scolding and his grade keeps dropping. By his 1st prelim, it drops to below 20. Shocking, right?
Fortunately, managed to find a tutor and guess what. He got an A for his Chinese.
Thanks God.

[aggellim]

Saw the 10pm Channel 8 news last night and heard that 44% of the


Nanyang P6 students scored an aggreate of 250 and above..!!!

Impressive!!! :lol: :lol:

Actually you may be surprised to know that RGPS average score last year was 234.....that was what the principal told the parents when my fd went for the P6 talk. :!: :!:

[Fairy]

aggellim:

Saw the 10pm Channel 8 news last night and heard that 44% of the


Nanyang P6 students scored an aggreate of 250 and above..!!!

Impressive!!! :lol: :lol:

Actually you may be surprised to know that RGPS average score last year was 234.....that was what the principal told the parents when my fd went for the P6 talk. :!: :!:

Yes. 44.4% of NYPS' PSLE cohort scores above 250. 89 of them has 4A*. Top scorer this year also from NYPS. 4 of the nation's top scorers come from the school. The school definitely has a good system in place to churn out students with good results. However, from my observation and analysis, NYPS is also 'blessed' with many favourable conditions for churning out top scholars:

(1) NYPS has the biggest GEP cohort every year (4 classes vs 2 in other schools)

(2) Many of the top scorers are transfered from neighbourhood schools either via GEP program or through merit transfers. I understand many of the students who made it for GEP selection test but not the GEP program have appealed to the school for transfer to their mainstream classes.

(3) Majority of NYPS students have very previliged family backgrounds. Many of them have MPs, CEOs, professionals and very high ranking government officers as parents. Good genes ==> nature

(4) Many of the students has educators (eg. school teachers and even university professors) as parents.

(5) Majority of the students go for high-end enrichment centres which charges a few hundred dollars an hour! $$$ can buy ==> nurture

(6) Even in CCAs, many students joined the school already trained by professional trainers outside and therefore already acquired skills fit for winning medals at competitions! Sports, Chess (National square), Caligraphy, & etc.

Take the top scorer this year; father - doctor, mother - ex-lawyer, even grandma is educated enough to teach her Chinese. No tuition? Having a lawyer-trained mother as a tuitor is superior enough.

Is this a level playing field? The answer is NO! In $ingapore, it is very important to be rich and be a somebody. The game is never fairly played. Kids from the HDB heartlanders will definitely loose out to their previlidged-background classmates, even in the same esteemed school.

[corneyAmber]

Dear Fairy,


Firstly, my child is not in NYPS. I still think the result is excellent and phenomenal. I agree to some extent that NYPS is blessed by the kind of kids that are being pushed there.

As for non level playing fair, it may be true based on your arguments to some extent on the nurture part however I want to bring your attention to the last year top PSLE girl. She would be considered a heartlander and she made history so far in being the highest scorer at 294!!

I read that her mom is SAHM, previously an air-stewardess and her education level is up to "O" levels. Her dad, an SIA technician was "A" levels if I recalled correctly. Whatever it was, both were non-graduates and mother was SAHM.

So my point is, no doubt the cost of nurture may not be affordable sometimes, I still believe God has eyes to see and the exam system is probably the best system so far(unless someone can come up with a better one) in that regardless of rich or poor, parents educated or not, the children can still excel if given the right family support and motivation.

[ChiefKiasu]

Luanee:

Sniper Angel, some schools post it on their websites, some schools don't. And different schools also use different numbers eg. some publish %A/A* and some use the average T-score. Guess u got to call the individual school to ask, MOE dont publish that.

Thanks Luanee. You are exactly right. If MOE publishes the data, we won't need to have the KSP rating for academic excellence that is based on the top PSLE students. Instead, we would have used the overall passes to do the measurement, which is much more accurate and representative of academic achievement.

MOE leaves it to individual schools to publish their PSLE results in whichever way they feel can put the school in the best light. Some publish overall passes, some publish number of distinctions, some focus on merged stream passes, etc. Some don't even publish at all. Under this situation, it is impossible for parents to have any basis of comparison for the PSLE results of all schools.

[lizawa]

aggellim:

Saw the 10pm Channel 8 news last night and heard that 44% of the


Nanyang P6 students scored an aggreate of 250 and above..!!!

Impressive!!! :lol: :lol:

Actually you may be surprised to know that RGPS average score last year was 234.....that was what the principal told the parents when my fd went for the P6 talk. :!: :!:

I have shared this observation in another forum and I thought I should share my observation for this year's PSLE trend here.

1. For children who are strong in langauges, especially mother tongue, they are likely to score well for PSLE this year.

2. For children who are strong in Maths and Science, they do not seem to have an added advantage of getting high scores in this year's PSLE. On the other hand, those who are weaker in Maths and Science, do not seem to have a disadvantage.

I think this also explains why NYPS students score high in general because their mother tongue is stronger.

So it's hard to predict your PSLE T-score based on the school Prelim results. In school, the total score is really the total raw score but in PSLE, it's really a comparative score.

[clare]

Fairy:

Take the top scorer this year; father - doctor, mother - ex-lawyer, even grandma is educated enough to teach her Chinese. No tuition? Having a lawyer-trained mother as a tuitor is superior enough.

Hmmm...er... definitely not the case with us... we have the same background but it doesn't help (must be different calibre!) There is NO WAY on earth I can coach my kids for PSLE. I get a headache just looking at P3 papers...

[aglim]

Hi all,

I agree with Fairy to a certain extent about genes…i’ve seen it at work in the kids on my husband’s side…all are superb in math and with no tuition and nearly all except one in the GEP prog and were in n’hood schools. My own two? One hates math and is strong in languages while the other’s like her cousins, math scientist but kinda wooden in languages. So, i’m pushing like mad for math to one and languages to the other and meeting resistance all the time.
I don’t think those brilliant students are really left on their own. Their parents do keep close communications with them.
I agree with Clare too, cos I see my own brother’s kid, who’s had no pressure at all from his engineer father and chartered accountant mum, just crossing borderline in P1.He’s quite the zombie. Now they are panicking and asking around for tuition cos both, I think, don’t know how to teach. I guess the key is practice and corrections and more practice. My nephew was too used to an idle life with the tv and toys all the time…so now is the painful rehabilitation process. He cries everytime his parents want to do work with him. I feel sorry for him but i guess that’s life in Singapore.
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