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      Couragemom
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      Hi mommies,


      So sad today. I sent my son to berries hoping he will be interested in Chinese. So far he had attended about 7 lessons (missed 3 lessons). During the initial settling in period, the class has up to 5-6 teachers to help out and the feedback was Nigel was ok in class. Then last week and this week, there are only 2 teachers in a class of 12 kids and both times the Chinese teacher’s feedback is my DS is not attentive in class at all and cannot follow the lesson at all.

      My husband told me since the teacher don’t feel our son can learn anything in class and she gets bothered by his inattentive behavior, then it is better to stop. He said anyway our son is only 2yrs 5 months old, no need to rush. Actually before starting at berries, I did checked with my son’s ST and she said since he only started having spontaneous speech 3months ago, it is better not to start learning Chinese at this junction and wait until he is more proficient in his English language.

      I am just worried that my DS will become resistant to learning Chinese if I don’t start early. Shall I continue (like find a more sympathetic teacher in a different branch) or just leave this Chinese learning issue aside for awhile and pick it up again when he reaches N2 next year (hopefully his speech has progress abit more by then).

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        mashy
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        Couragemom:
        Hi mommies,


        So sad today. I sent my son to berries hoping he will be interested in Chinese. So far he had attended about 7 lessons (missed 3 lessons). During the initial settling in period, the class has up to 5-6 teachers to help out and the feedback was Nigel was ok in class. Then last week and this week, there are only 2 teachers in a class of 12 kids and both times the Chinese teacher's feedback is my DS is not attentive in class at all and cannot follow the lesson at all.

        My husband told me since the teacher don't feel our son can learn anything in class and she gets bothered by his inattentive behavior, then it is better to stop. He said anyway our son is only 2yrs 5 months old, no need to rush. Actually before starting at berries, I did checked with my son's ST and she said since he only started having spontaneous speech 3months ago, it is better not to start learning Chinese at this junction and wait until he is more proficient in his English language.

        I am just worried that my DS will become resistant to learning Chinese if I don't start early. Shall I continue (like find a more sympathetic teacher in a different branch) or just leave this Chinese learning issue aside for awhile and pick it up again when he reaches N2 next year (hopefully his speech has progress abit more by then).
        I agree with your speech therapist and your hb. Start slow and focus on his English. He can get Chinese exemption but not English. If eventually he can't cope, just get it exempted. And he is still so young.

        If u want him interested in Chinese, how about a speech and drama class? That one he can run about, so don't have to stay still.

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          mashy
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          nugget:
          mashy:

          As a note of encouragement.


          My son's form teacher called me to give feedback on his progress for the term. It is overwhelming good! I'm so surprised. She said that although the previous form teachers recommended that he have an aed this year, he went through successfully without one. It happened coz he didn't want an aed attached and wanted to be more independent coz he is a big boy now. He doesn't want to be treated differently so hence the decision. He has been more responsible in school and does his work quickly. In fact he has already finished most of his school holiday homework. He's doing well socially too with friends who wanted to sit next to him next term. 🙂 His previous teachers were all surprised by his progress and his good test results. Although he sometimes lapse into the mode of fury when things don't go as expected, he has learnt to cope and calm down. I'm so happy to hear of his progress. Seriously, it seems that he behaves differently in school and at home.
          O
          I'm happy that he has improved every year and he is getting closer and closer to being like any other kid his age.

          He started speaking at 2.5years old, we were only able to understand his speech at end of k1. We had to ask him 'yes and no' questions to find out what he wanted. He hid in a corner instead of sitting with the class during his kindy years and in p1.

          He has progressed a lot and I'm so proud of him.

          Be persistent and hang in there, ladies! I'm sure you will see your child doing things that you never dreamed he/she could do.

          I am so happy with your son's progress. It brings me hope as well as my son is also in a mainstream school.

          I totally understand what you meant that he is a totally different person in school and at home.

          I received a call from teacher too this week. She told me all sorts of things my son did that I never thought he is able to do. Things like how he will go and play during recess time (Library, pond, playground, chase around friends.. yes chase with friends!) then left last 3 mins then he will go queue up and buy a plate of rice then gobble down as the bell rang. The teacher actually wanted to feed back that he gobbled his food down which is a concern to her. But I was surprised... at home he can take 45 mins to 1 hour to finish his food. In school 3 mins?? How can it be? I even asked her, are you sure its 3 mins?

          She also told me he is selected to play a main role in a drama as he is very strong in reading (his major strength) and he has to read a lot leading the group. I was almost moved to tears.. BUT son didnt tell me all these. I am so glad the teacher called me. She also share with me how he interact with his friends .. a bit out of context but the friends still find him funny. And which friends are helping him etc etc. Teacher even notice he seemed to be attracted to a girl and always like to sit beside her. :rotflmao:

          Like you, I am so proud of my son too. But he has still many issues to iron out. But I am just happy that he is happy and enjoying school with good teachers and a few supportive friends.

          Lately son say he is not special, he is normal just like daddy and mummy. Are his siblings special or normal? Not too sure who said what to him.
          Have you encounter this before? Does your kid know he is special?

          So amazing right? U see him suddenly blossoming in primary school. I wonder if the primary school environment has a hand in it or just an age thing. That's why i feel that for those who have been deemed suitable for mainstream should just go for it and try out first. If can't then make changes. U never know until u try.

          I think your boy is also very proud of himself that he is now recognized and no longer the 'problem' child. This probably helped him build up his confidence to accomplish so much.


          Hehe, my boy also has a crush in school. He wanted to take school bus so that he can follow her home! Just now we were out at a playground with lots of kids. He took the initiative to make friends and play with them. 🙂 and he also likes to think that he is funny.

          My son thinks he is special alright. Lol. But in a good way. He will gloat about how his teacher said he is the only kid in class with 2 dimples and how cute he is. He is very small size and he thinks that is why he is cute and lovable. Lol. Think u can tell him he is special and all the good things about him. Special isn't supposed to be a bad word.

          We also have challenges. His cca teacher isn't as understanding. He cut his cca time by half and his senior team mates hide his stuff around. When I told the teacher, the teacher replied with \"it's because he is....\" So it's important to have good teachers.

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            mashy
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            Couragemom:
            Hi Mashy,


            Yes yes, everytime I read about your son's progress, it really give me lots of hope and sunshine! I must learn to take a longer perspective in my son's progress and not be so upset by teacher/therapist sometimes not so good feedback! Now no good, next time will be better. You know hor, my feeling is so transparent. If I bad mood my husband in the evening when we bring our kids to playground, he will ask 'so which teacher or person say something bad about our son har?'
            Must learn to go orh, point taken. There are too many such pp around and we will just get upset if we keep listening to the bad things.

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              ImMeeMee
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              nugget, mashy


              good to hear that your kids are settling well into the mainstream environment. Hope things will continue to shine through and be the best that they can be.

              😄

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                Couragemom
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                Hi mommies,


                How does the Chinese exemption works? During Chinese class in Pri school, what does our kid do?

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                  mashy
                  last edited by

                  Couragemom:
                  Hi mommies,


                  How does the Chinese exemption works? During Chinese class in Pri school, what does our kid do?
                  It depends on the school. My son is given the choice to continue with lesson or go library. I heard some school is follow the form teacher around. I chose to let him continue the lessons coz I don't know if he will return to the class from the library after the period ends. So now have class but no stress of making him score well in it. It is like us when we learn a language as an adult, no need exams.

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                    sharonkhoo
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                    mashy:
                    Couragemom:

                    Hi mommies,


                    How does the Chinese exemption works? During Chinese class in Pri school, what does our kid do?

                    It depends on the school. My son is given the choice to continue with lesson or go library. I heard some school is follow the form teacher around. I chose to let him continue the lessons coz I don't know if he will return to the class from the library after the period ends. So now have class but no stress of making him score well in it. It is like us when we learn a language as an adult, no need exams.

                    Most schools will allow the child to stay in the classroom (but must not be disruptive) and listen, or do some other work. The exemption, once given, is usually all the way to A levels (although some have said that the exemption given was only for shorter periods, requiring another application later). To interest your son in Chinese now, what about DVDs of songs etc? You can start classes again when he is older and more able to follow. Even for NT kids, I feel that 2.5 yrs is too young for classes.

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                      nugget
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                      Couragemom,


                      I totally forget about training my son in Chinese until he was in the middle of K2. Cos all along I was working on his development issues (Speech and behavioral). He could not even write his chinese name when he was in K2!! 😓

                      Like what Mashy say, a good teacher is really impt. While I was seeking for a chinese tutor, I enrolled my son into a chinese enrichment class. I let him start with different classes, K2, then N2 then later on he settled in K1.The enrichment class teacher understands his condition and suggested a time slot with least no of student then she teach him little by little, with songs and stories.

                      My objective is same as you. I want my son to embrace Chinese.. Fortunately he does like Chinese. I have already stopped my enrichment class as he is not striving his new class (12 kids). I have a 1-1 Chinese tutor for him.

                      I think you planned better than me. For me, I was very focus on ironing out all his developmental issues first. I really cast aside his academic work except doing worksheets at home. From N2 to K2 is really just therapies and therapies. My objective then is to help him blend into mainstream - good classroom behavior and simple functional speech. I must say I was really in a bit panick not knowing if he can catch up on his academic work or not. After changing a few tutors, he is now catching up his work in P1. (Again good teachers really help).

                      Tackle one problem at a time. Step by step else you would feel overwhelm.
                      Watching chinese video is a good way to stir interests. All my kids learn their chinese talking to grandparents.

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                        nugget
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                        mashy:

                        So amazing right? U see him suddenly blossoming in primary school. I wonder if the primary school environment has a hand in it or just an age thing. That's why i feel that for those who have been deemed suitable for mainstream should just go for it and try out first. If can't then make changes. U never know until u try.

                        I think your boy is also very proud of himself that he is now recognized and no longer the 'problem' child. This probably helped him build up his confidence to accomplish so much.


                        Hehe, my boy also has a crush in school. He wanted to take school bus so that he can follow her home! Just now we were out at a playground with lots of kids. He took the initiative to make friends and play with them. 🙂 and he also likes to think that he is funny.

                        My son thinks he is special alright. Lol. But in a good way. He will gloat about how his teacher said he is the only kid in class with 2 dimples and how cute he is. He is very small size and he thinks that is why he is cute and lovable. Lol. Think u can tell him he is special and all the good things about him. Special isn't supposed to be a bad word.

                        We also have challenges. His cca teacher isn't as understanding. He cut his cca time by half and his senior team mates hide his stuff around. When I told the teacher, the teacher replied with \"it's because he is....\" So it's important to have good teachers.
                        Yes my son is also very proud of himself. I was very apprehensive and was super stress during his first month. Worry about this and that (am still worry but is better under control now).

                        I feel primary school environment has a hand in it. They are being \"forced\" to be independent. Everyone is equal. Probably son realized there is not much hand holding and he has to conform. Those lessons/period don't wait for him.. I guess he learned just how to go with the flow.. Just follow, be quiet, do what other people is doing. Before he goes P1, he learned how to copy other people, worksheets and actions. I think is a essential life skill. I guess that's his \"secret weapon\" for surviving in mainstream now. But also it brings other bad habits too. He learn from his friends and said to me at home \"dun listen teacher will slap you!!\". I am sure he learned these from other friends in school. :slapshead:

                        May all the kids here met with good teachers and give them a chance to learn and progress.

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