How to tell if a child is gifted?

[corneyAmber]

I believe 2ppaamm is speaking from her experience of an exceptional case. Most cases I believe do not warrant such a test because they are likely above average but not exceptional enough. In cases where they are exceptional, I believe there is special help that can be rendered to help them develop themselves better since they are not on the normal curve. I also think MOE are keen in such cases only.

[2ppaamm]

snowyqueen:

I feel that it is not important for alll these assessment. Most important they must enjoy the school life.

How true! So is your child going through intervention for Asperger's?

[2ppaamm]

ks2me:

I believe 2ppaamm is speaking from her experience of an exceptional case. Most cases I believe do not warrant such a test because they are likely above average but not exceptional enough. In cases where they are exceptional, I believe there is special help that can be rendered to help them develop themselves better since they are not on the normal curve. I also think MOE are keen in such cases only.

Yes, from my knowledge, ks2me is right. Like I mentioned, unless your child is 3 in 100,000, which means the FSIQ is 145 and above, MOE will do nothing. Note: there are less than 50,000 babies in a year.

Yes, you can get support from MOE much earlier than P3, only if you fit that category. Very few people do. Some may not even want the support, if you have the family structure to do that. Point is, MOE needs the school to support the child, so if the child's school cannot provide that, it will be very difficult.

But don't worry about all these lah. Just as long as the kid is fine and happy. If you don't think he/she is in that 1 in a year kind, then just go on with life and provide the stimulation you can lor... life goes on.

[2ppaamm]

EN:

[quote]Go to the polyclinic and ask them for a referral to Child Guidance Clinic at IMH. Perhaps you can get the IQ test done. Call IMH first to see if this route is possible. That way, the test will be subsidized.

Even through polyclinic, after subsidy it cost $500.

2ppaamm, drop you a pm.[/quote]EN, I replied already.

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2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?


[quote]My girl did an IQ test at KK through polyclinic's recommendation letter quite some years back at very resonable low cost i.e $100+. Now, maybe inflation and fees has escalated.[/quote][quote]Btw, I probably belongs to the less unfortunate parent because my daughter was a case of asperges syndrome and not that she was very talented in something and it was KK who wanted to test her IQ and not I suggested for it. I was only trying to get KK's help to diagnose what was the problem with my girl. Ironically, there wasn't a score allocated because she got 2 areas very high and 2 areas below or just on the average. I was told that she needed to score a consistent score for the areas that she was being tested in order to allocate a score to her. Anyway, I wasn't interested about all these because this wasn't my priority. I only wanted to solve my girl's problem. [/quote]When your daughter is said to have asperger syndrome, do you take it as it is?

Would you be able to share how was your daughter testing done? Is it based on question and answer to parents, feedback from teachers, caretaker? How many different type of test did your daughter has to go through besides IQ test?

I agree. As parents, our main priority is to ensure that our child enjoy school life, able to integrate with society in the future, be comfortable with what nature has bestowed and the child (child will know they are different too. No need anyone to tell them that) not to take things for granted just in case complacency sets in.

[2ppaamm]

EN:

2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?


[quote]My girl did an IQ test at KK through polyclinic's recommendation letter quite some years back at very resonable low cost i.e $100+. Now, maybe inflation and fees has escalated.

[quote]Btw, I probably belongs to the less unfortunate parent because my daughter was a case of asperges syndrome and not that she was very talented in something and it was KK who wanted to test her IQ and not I suggested for it. I was only trying to get KK's help to diagnose what was the problem with my girl. Ironically, there wasn't a score allocated because she got 2 areas very high and 2 areas below or just on the average. I was told that she needed to score a consistent score for the areas that she was being tested in order to allocate a score to her. Anyway, I wasn't interested about all these because this wasn't my priority. I only wanted to solve my girl's problem. [/quote]When your daughter is said to have asperger syndrome, do you take it as it is?

Would you be able to share how was your daughter testing done? Is it based on question and answer to parents, feedback from teachers, caretaker? How many different type of test did your daughter has to go through besides IQ test?

I agree. As parents, our main priority is to ensure that our child enjoy school life, able to integrate with society in the future, be comfortable with what nature has bestowed and the child (child will know they are different too. No need anyone to tell them that) not to take things for granted just in case complacency sets in.[/quote]The $100+ KK test does not sound like an IQ test to me. No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant.

[2ppaamm]

EN:

2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?

Hope it is not amnesia... :lol: So tired throughout the day, but I cannot sleep past 4 so might as well wake up to do some work. This is so unlike me, I used to sleep for 10 hours everyday...

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2ppaamm:

The $100+ KK test does not sound like an IQ test to me. No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant.

If there is a significant discrepency between the subscores, a FSIQ will not be reported as it will not be an accurate reflection of the child's abilities.

I think knowing the subcores are very useful. My son's processing speed score was much lower than his other subscores. This corresponds with his vision processing issues and he's now with KKH eye center. His headaches have also improved. So it's all useful information.

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[quote]2ppaamm wrote:


The $100+ KK test does not sound like an IQ test to me. No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant.


If there is a significant discrepency between the subscores, a FSIQ will not be reported as it will not be an accurate reflection of the child's abilities.

I think knowing the subcores are very useful. My son's processing speed score was much lower than his other subscores. This corresponds with his vision processing issues and he's now with KKH eye center. His headaches have also improved. So it's all useful information.[/quote]Is there any parents that are needed to sit through Q & A for 4.5 hours long? I can understand why the child need to sit for testings. But what I don't understand why must parents go through question and answer for 4.5 hours too. My dh cannot sit so long. He will start \"fidgetting\". I think I can but I hate to be in a room for 4.5 hours not moving. Q & A feels like being grilled for something I did not do.

Any parents face the same issues when their child sits for testing?

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[quote]EN wrote:

2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?


Hope it is not amnesia... So tired throughout the day, but I cannot sleep past 4 so might as well wake up to do some work. This is so unlike me, I used to sleep for 10 hours everyday...[/quote]You joining my club?