How to tell if a child is gifted?
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2ppaamm:
If there is a significant discrepency between the subscores, a FSIQ will not be reported as it will not be an accurate reflection of the child's abilities.
The $100+ KK test does not sound like an IQ test to me. No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant.
I think knowing the subcores are very useful. My son's processing speed score was much lower than his other subscores. This corresponds with his vision processing issues and he's now with KKH eye center. His headaches have also improved. So it's all useful information. -
[quote]2ppaamm wrote:
The $100+ KK test does not sound like an IQ test to me. No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant.
If there is a significant discrepency between the subscores, a FSIQ will not be reported as it will not be an accurate reflection of the child's abilities.
I think knowing the subcores are very useful. My son's processing speed score was much lower than his other subscores. This corresponds with his vision processing issues and he's now with KKH eye center. His headaches have also improved. So it's all useful information.[/quote]Is there any parents that are needed to sit through Q & A for 4.5 hours long? I can understand why the child need to sit for testings. But what I don't understand why must parents go through question and answer for 4.5 hours too. My dh cannot sit so long. He will start \"fidgetting\". I think I can but I hate to be in a room for 4.5 hours not moving. Q & A feels like being grilled for something I did not do.
Any parents face the same issues when their child sits for testing? -
[quote]EN wrote:
2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?
Hope it is not amnesia... So tired throughout the day, but I cannot sleep past 4 so might as well wake up to do some work. This is so unlike me, I used to sleep for 10 hours everyday...[/quote]You joining my club? -
EN:
You joining my club?[/quote]Your club is \"active and energetic club\"? A&E club?[quote]EN wrote:
2ppaamm, received. Thanks for replying so quickly. Psstt...sleep so late, wake up so early?
Hope it is not amnesia... So tired throughout the day, but I cannot sleep past 4 so might as well wake up to do some work. This is so unlike me, I used to sleep for 10 hours everyday...
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autumnbronze:
Autumnbronze, I haven't been visiting the \"Kids Say the Darnest Things\" thread for awhile, but I must say your son is showing so much curiousity and exhibits a lot of pre-knowledge that is really quite shocking. I want to say welll done to you and your hubby, but a lot of it is also from within your kid, so well done, all of you.I do not know if my child is gifted, but he possesses some qualities for a 2 and a half yr old that amazes us many times over :D.
I wish I have great advice for you. You see, my son is EG. Yep. Didn't want to say it cos I want the anonymity. I don't see it as so great - it's the luck of the draw. Yes there are precedents in the family. Anway, he's my son and we love him to bits regardless. We have problems like anyone else, although maybe different ones. But then, who doesn't have different problems? And the truth is, we've been targeted before so that these guys can feel \"adequate\". It's water under the bridge lah, so forget it. But by confessing, I've been \"outed\", yikes, cos like 2ppaamm says, there ain't that many around.
You know you have an issue when your son works out various ways of doing multiplication via ratios, applies it in different ways and tells you that you have to work it out yourself because it's too boring to explain to you *again*, when he clamours for research on cancer and diseases so that he can sleep at night (extreme fear of death), or when he yells \"Hydrogen, Yttrium!\" when he goes to the optician's and sees \"H\" and Y\". Now at P1, he's in a mini depression cos he has to zone to pass the day. So they'll move him soon and give him different work. Worse, he unwittingly maloo'd a teacher (he questions everything) and was picked on, so I had to go in to set things straight.
Does he learn easily? Yes. He can get things wrong, although he gets a lot right by observation. He can forget what he had for breakfast although he remembers who said what to him several years earlier. He has \"universal compassion\" for all life, but can bear a grudge for years. He is so sensitive to little unintended nuances that he can be such a pain, but he is so considerate and sweet at other times. He is a contradiction in extremes.
I have some vague idea of what he did at what age (like talking at 6 mths etc), but truly, these things do not make a child. It is the sum total that makes the overall personality of a person.
So if I have any advice to you, Autumnbronze, and to all mums, it is to enjoy the journey. For ourselves, we celebrate the effort he puts in rather than the results. I tell him that mistakes are part of learning so that he feels brave enough to attempt repeatedly. I try (with limited success so far!) to get him to do things that are out of his comfort zone (like soccer - he has 2 left feet). I've never told him what his IQ is, or what giftedness means, but like Sleepy says, they know. In my son's case, he hates it because he feels the reason why he has so few friends is because he's \"not normal\". So I try to show him that there are people who sing and run better than he does, but it doesn't make them not normal. I think that because we show him a lot of love and acceptance, he is able to accept himself. But going to school has really rocked his confidence because he realizes that he is not successful at making friends despite his efforts, and the only reason he sees is his own \"difference\".
The one thing to guard against is Expectations. I have had to tussle with this demon, and I haven't always won. So I speak with the experience of the battle-weary - don't have them. Just observe, react to needs, look for interesting paths to tempt him down, and most of all, just enjoy your kid. -
2ppaamm:
Nolah. Don't have to have a FSIQ score. My son doesn't have it for the reasons mentioned - the discrepancy between sections is greater than 3 standard deviations. Instead, he has a GAI (General Ability Index). It can serve as the FSIQ and excludes some sub-test scores - I forget what.
No matter how skewed, there's definitely a FSIQ. This is the first time I hear, but perhaps I am ignorant. -
deminc:
Heya Deminc, it's me
I think knowing the subcores are very useful. My son's processing speed score was much lower than his other subscores. This corresponds with his vision processing issues and he's now with KKH eye center. His headaches have also improved. So it's all useful information. , shhh. Can pm me about the visual precessing stuff? We're battling with this too :(. Tks much!!!
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Blobbi:
You see, my son is EG. .
How come I seem to know? Did I dream about this? :?
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ks2me:
You got ESP lah. I can think of more uses for this ... see winning 4D number, read teachers minds about exam questions ...Blobbi:
You see, my son is EG. .
How come I seem to know? Did I dream about this? :? -
Blobbi:
You got ESP lah. I can think of more uses for this ... see winning 4D number, read teachers minds about exam questions ...[/quote]Cannot anyhow abuse ability...ks2me:
[quote=\"Blobbi\"]You see, my son is EG. .
How come I seem to know? Did I dream about this? :?
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