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    All About Choosing Piano Schools And Teachers

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      Puzz.06109.06109.06109zzle
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      Hi, may I know what is the standard for one who was graduated from Shanghai Conservatory ? = what of level of ABRSM / Trinity ?


      Thanks

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        Puzz...zzle:
        Hi, may I know what is the standard for one who was graduated from Shanghai Conservatory ? = what of level of ABRSM / Trinity ?


        Thanks
        Shanghai conservatory is renounced.
        They have high school section so you probably have to find out more, whether teacher graduated from high school, degree or postgrad

        No idea what level to ABRSM.
        But if reference to our own Yong Siew Toh, obviously a full time degree from YST conservatory is way higher than ABRSM/Trinity. My impression at least.

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          Puzz.06109.06109.06109zzle
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          sleepy:
          Puzz...zzle:

          Hi, may I know what is the standard for one who was graduated from Shanghai Conservatory ? = what of level of ABRSM / Trinity ?


          Thanks

          Shanghai conservatory is renounced.
          They have high school section so you probably have to find out more, whether teacher graduated from high school, degree or postgrad

          No idea what level to ABRSM.
          But if reference to our own Yong Siew Toh, obviously a full time degree from YST conservatory is way higher than ABRSM/Trinity. My impression at least.


          What if a Degree?

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            sleepy
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            Puzz...zzle:
            sleepy:


            No idea what level to ABRSM.
            But if reference to our own Yong Siew Toh, obviously a full time degree from YST conservatory is way higher than ABRSM/Trinity. My impression at least.


            What if a Degree?

            See above quote 😂

            You engaging a Shanghai conservatory graduate? What is the asking fees?

            Very important to check if that teacher is familiar with ABRSM syllabus.
            I ever engaged a degree graduate from another conservatory (not Shanghai), exceptionally good in playing that instrument (not piano) but unfamiliar with ABRSM syllabus and we had some hiccups as a result

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              anyone can advise how much do they charge for grade 3 (piano school and private piano teacher?)

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                Taking about ABRSM syllabus, it is really not a big issue. As a parent without any music background, I am now able to teach any elements except for practical playing. Purchasing the whole set of syllabus books and reading thru them , that’s all

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                  :whut:

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                    reddiechan:


                    Did you actually mean 'renowned'?
                    :oops: renowned
                    Highly acclaimed

                    Just to add, this is just my impression of Shanghai conservatory

                    But i still prefer our own YST grad to teach. personal preference

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                      sleepy:
                      Puzz...zzle:

                      [quote=\"sleepy\"]
                      No idea what level to ABRSM.
                      But if reference to our own Yong Siew Toh, obviously a full time degree from YST conservatory is way higher than ABRSM/Trinity. My impression at least.


                      What if a Degree?

                      See above quote 😂

                      You engaging a Shanghai conservatory graduate? What is the asking fees?

                      Very important to check if that teacher is familiar with ABRSM syllabus.
                      I ever engaged a degree graduate from another conservatory (not Shanghai), exceptionally good in playing that instrument (not piano) but unfamiliar with ABRSM syllabus and we had some hiccups as a result[/quote]I think in general a lot of people tend to equate high proficiency in playing = qualified to teach. Not entirely wrong though as one of the criteria of a good teacher is someone who can perform and demonstrate competently the repertoire he/she is teaching.

                      As a full time graduate myself I can say that is often not true. The primary focus of these full time institutions is still afterall to produce good performers, and equipping these students with teaching skills is often an afterthought. When I was in NAFA full time, there was only one compulsory module on instrumental teaching that lasted for one semester, and an optional module in another semester if students wished to. These modules were basic and generalist, the students were not really taught how to apply these principles in real-life teaching (partly because the lecturer was anti-ABRSM and similar exams). Stuff like how to plan students for an exam or how to communicate with students' parents were not really taught and emphasized.

                      So when I graduated, I was practically still blind in terms of actual teaching skills. So still have to do a lot of trials and errors. And looking back at my early years of teaching, I think it was quite embarrassing at some of amateurish mistakes I made. The reality of this field is only a very very small minority can make comfortable living as a performer. For pianists, one of the options is to become a full time accompanist, but how many full time accompanists are needed in Singapore. Even then still need to teach to supplement income. So a lot of full time grads were hit with this realisation only after they graduate. Some music school owners who auditioned these full time grads, whether local or overseas, remarked to me they definitely don't lack the skills to play, but when quizzed on basic teaching knowledge, most don't even bother to try to find out.

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                        crm:
                        Taking about ABRSM syllabus, it is really not a big issue. As a parent without any music background, I am now able to teach any elements except for practical playing. Purchasing the whole set of syllabus books and reading thru them , that's all

                        That is if you are willing to do this, and most parents are not so on or free to learn parallel with their children and assist them at home. Even then, you still need a qualified teacher who is familiar with the syllabus to provide feedback if you are assisting your child correctly.

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