All About Choosing Piano Schools And Teachers
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tong2:
Agree with phankao. Singapore does not have its own standards - all adopted from elsewhere. 10级is that equivalent to the Chinese standard. The only '3' I see in the link is about recognition of this standard, by '3' institutions. I don't see ABRSM （英国皇家音乐学院）mentioned anywhere in the linked thread.your 10ji is Singapore standard.
I talked about 10ji is in China.
if you can read Chinese character, please open this link to see.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/search?word=%B8 ... d=7&ie=gbk
this is just a internet information as I mentioned earlier. I am not sure about realness. That's why I posted here, and request you and others' second opinion.
The other '3' I see in a later post mentioned 专业三级. This would mean level 3 at a professional level, which still doesn't translate to AB grade 3. -
tong2:
tong2,your 10ji is Singapore standard.
I talked about 10ji is in China.
if you can read Chinese character, please open this link to see.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/search?word=%B8 ... d=7&ie=gbk
this is just a internet information as I mentioned earlier. I am not sure about realness. That's why I posted here, and request you and others' second opinion.
There is no \"Singapore Standard\" of 10 级。And it is not \"my\" 10 级 - I'm not part of any exam board.
Other than the NUS chinese exam (which is modelled after the China ones), the one Administered by NAFA is by the Beijing Central Conservatory 中央音乐学院 . It's not an exam designed by NAFA for Singapore(!). Just like ABRSM is a UK exam, but administered in Singapore by a Singapore Office called Singapore Symphonia Co. Ltd .
Shanghai Conservatory is just another one of the Examining Boards in China, apart from the Central Conservatory Exam Board. (Just like in UK, there's more than one Exam Board too - eg. ABRSM, Trinity, London College of Music, etc).
I found a syllabus from Shanghai Conservatory of Music online.
http://musicexam.org/piano.html
You can also have a look at the Exam Book online.
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a2 ... =401143945
There's a listing on that page of some of the pieces in that book for different grade levels.
eg. 第十级
1．帕格尼尼随想曲
2．赋格
3．即兴曲
You can also find online some videos of Shanghai Conservatory pieces.
The Grade 10 帕格尼尼随想曲http://http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LYXKxs-JVKE/
Another Selection of Grade 10 pieces. They start off with Etude first. Chinese Exam Boards generally MUST have an Etude in the performance programme.
第一首：练习曲，为半音阶而作，德彪西曲。
第二首：复调，赋格，平均律第一册第17首，巴赫曲。
第三首：乐曲，A大调奏鸣曲，第四乐章，Op2.No2. 贝多芬曲。
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-q9AxS7ZTmI/?fr=rec1
And here's a Shanghai Conservatory Exam Board Grade 8 piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSUrwd4NEzs
.... I believe none of those pieces are in any way ABRSM Grade 3 level, right? -
reddiechan:
That's right. I looked at that web-link you provided, tong2.... it doesn't say anything about Grade 10 being ABRSM grade 3 standard? I only see questions asking about what standard of playing is needed to attain Grade 10 level, and How long would it take to learn piano to Grade 10 level, and so on.
Agree with phankao. Singapore does not have its own standards - all adopted from elsewhere. 10级is that equivalent to the Chinese standard. The only '3' I see in the link is about recognition of this standard, by '3' institutions. I don't see ABRSM （英国皇家音乐学院）mentioned anywhere in the linked thread.tong2:
your 10ji is Singapore standard.
I talked about 10ji is in China.
if you can read Chinese character, please open this link to see.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/search?word=%B8 ... d=7&ie=gbk
this is just a internet information as I mentioned earlier. I am not sure about realness. That's why I posted here, and request you and others' second opinion.
The other '3' I see in a later post mentioned 专业三级. This would mean level 3 at a professional level, which still doesn't translate to AB grade 3. -
http://youtu.be/UtL_BupOKnc
http://youtu.be/MaVHa1-xEwM
http://youtu.be/Gk-_4nSk9SI
http://youtu.be/oMOVe4OFwxE
These two kids have learnt piano since they were 2.5 yrs old.
The girl is five yrs old. The videos are recorded this year.
The boy is 13 yrs old. The video are recorded in 2012 and 2011. -
phankao:
That's right. I looked at that web-link you provided, tong2.... it doesn't say anything about Grade 10 being ABRSM grade 3 standard? I only see questions asking about what standard of playing is needed to attain Grade 10 level, and How long would it take to learn piano to Grade 10 level, and so on.[/quote]
Agree with phankao. Singapore does not have its own standards - all adopted from elsewhere. 10级is that equivalent to the Chinesereddiechan:
[quote=\"tong2\"]your 10ji is Singapore standard.
I talked about 10ji is in China.
if you can read Chinese character, please open this link to see.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/search?word=%B8 ... d=7&ie=gbk
this is just a internet information as I mentioned earlier. I am not sure about realness. That's why I posted here, and request you and others' second opinion.
standard. The only '3' I see in the link is about recognition of this standard, by '3' institutions. I don't see ABRSM （英国皇家音乐学院）mentioned anywhere in the linked thread.
The other '3' I see in a later post mentioned 专业三级. This would mean level 3 at a professional level, which still doesn't translate to AB grade 3.
China grade 10 (some areas) equals grade 8 ABRSM except there is no scales and arpggios, sight-reading and aural test. -
phankao:
That's right. I looked at that web-link you provided, tong2.... it doesn't say anything about Grade 10 being ABRSM grade 3 standard? I only see questions asking about what standard of playing is needed to attain Grade 10 level, and How long would it take to learn piano to Grade 10 level, and so on.[/quote]
Agree with phankao. Singapore does not have its own standards - all adopted from elsewhere. 10级is that equivalent to the Chinesereddiechan:
[quote=\"tong2\"]your 10ji is Singapore standard.
I talked about 10ji is in China.
if you can read Chinese character, please open this link to see.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/search?word=%B8 ... d=7&ie=gbk
this is just a internet information as I mentioned earlier. I am not sure about realness. That's why I posted here, and request you and others' second opinion.
standard. The only '3' I see in the link is about recognition of this standard, by '3' institutions. I don't see ABRSM （英国皇家音乐学院）mentioned anywhere in the linked thread.
The other '3' I see in a later post mentioned 专业三级. This would mean level 3 at a professional level, which still doesn't translate to AB grade 3.
China grade 10 (some areas) equals grade 8 ABRSM except there is no scales and arpggios, sight-reading and aural test. -
This is in response to sleepy’s comment about teachers who believe one grade per year are mediocre which had been edited out. What an ignorant and snobbish comment. Not everyone is aiming to clear grade 8 by p6 and just because a teacher is unwilling to do it does not mean the teacher is mediocre. I swear this forum is becoming more toxic to read everyday with over eager parents and teachers sharing out of ordinary achievements and passing them off as normal.
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Laoshi is right. China grade 10 (actually not just some areas, it’s most areas) is ABRSM grade 8. And yes, limited scales/arpeggios, no aural, no sight reading AND no theory.
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sacredmusicals:
This is in response to sleepy's comment about teachers who believe one grade per year are mediocre which had been edited out. What an ignorant and snobbish comment. Not everyone is aiming to clear grade 8 by p6 and just because a teacher is unwilling to do it does not mean the teacher is mediocre. I swear this forum is becoming more toxic to read everyday with over eager parents and teachers sharing out of ordinary achievements and passing them off as normal.
Well, this is afterall Kiasuparents forum, not Normalparents forum.
Anyway, I understand why you get riled up by that remark. I saw the remark yesterday too and was quite amazed by it. But she is entitled to her opinion; every parent has his/her own set of criteria of what makes a good teacher and for her being able to achieve fast result is quite obviously at the top the of the list.
As for those achievements, I think most parents would have the discernments to understand that there are a lot of other factors involved to produce a stellar and fast result other than just having simply an awesome teacher. -
Wah no need to be so agitated la. Indeed speaking from my personal experience, being unnecessarily held back by a teacher who subsequently admitted it's her mistake in judgment, applying a blanket rule 1 year 1 grade, rather than assessing every student individually.
After our disappointing experience with that teacher, we stayed away from teachers who hold such firm belief from thereon. Oh well, obviously i can only speak from own experience, not representing anyone else.
Chill la, no need to resort to name calling wah
As to accelerated progress, it's the norm with our previous private teacher. Her p5 student is taking diploma. Her youngest grade 8 student is in p1. In that learning environment, naturally it becomes the norm to us since we are surrounded by such students for 3 years +. Teacher is utterly dissatisfied with dd's progress though
Anyway no longer with that teacher. Over zealous teacher killed interests too, if that makes anyone feels better :siam:
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