Eye Level Education Centre (aka Enopi) - Discussion

[Bowie]

Hi fionong,


My 2cts. Phonics and Reading. Today, Maths qn is not purely Maths, Kids have to have good command of language to understand the qn.

:lol:

[gumiho]

Bowie:

Hi fionong,


My 2cts. Phonics and Reading. Today, Maths qn is not purely Maths, Kids have to have good command of language to understand the qn.

:lol:

Hi Bowie,

Thats true. Think I shall let her continue with her Phonic and Reading 1st.

[titank]

MMM:

Just to share.


My P3 and P2 started with Enopi since the beginning of 2009.

My P2 had attended kumon prior to joining Enopi.

In the case of my P3, she never did any pre-school maths enrichment lessons. It was only in P1 that I sent her to mighty maths out of convenience. Her P1 maths results was the 80s range.

In P2, I recalled that she scored 90 marks for her SA2. She is lot more confident.

In P3 CA1, she scored 80 marks. I think it's not bad considering that P3 is getting more difficult and unlike P1 and P2, I heard it's not that easy to score anymore.

Another observation is that my kids are learning in advance of their level. Eg. P2 learning P3 multiplication while P3 is learning more complex fractions, areas and perimeter that is probably for P4. So I feel that when she is P5, she should already be expose to P6 stuff and when she sits for the maths paper, she is able to handle it. With that, I will let them continue with their Enopi lessons.

Frankly, I would encourage parents to go for either MPM or Enopi depending on which is more convenient. This is due to the heuristics portion. Also heard MPM worksheets are also colorful like Enopi. In terms of fees, Enopi is $120 per month so slightly cheaper than MPM???

Hi MMM,

So for Enopi Maths should actually starts when like K1? Seem like there are many centres but wonder are they running the same program?

[MMM]

titank:

So for Enopi Maths should actually starts when like K1? Seem like there are many centres but wonder are they running the same program?[/color]

Hi Titank,

For most of these maths program (eg Enopi, Kumon), the kids progress based on their ability rather than their school level.

I am starting my K1 early as I hope that by the end she is in P1, she can potentially be learning P1 or P2 stuff and maths is easy for her to manage.

But one observation is that Enopi may not be 100% following school syllabus eg. certain topics may not be covered by Enopi till later stage. For our instructor, she is intuned to school syllabus so she will actually let the kids do exam papers on top of their Enopi work or expose them to certain topics first,etc... to prepare them for exams. I am not sure if every centre does that.

It's also important to note that when you decide on a program, stick with it so that the kids will benefit and progress. Different prog have different focus so if you were to change prog along the way, the kids will need to do a assessment and sometimes as the focus is different, you may find them starting at a lower level for a new program.

Eg. I recall that when my son started after 1 yr of kumon, he was at P1 level for kumon and was fairly strong in arithmetic. But when he did the assessment in Enopi, he was weak in critical thinking and he actually have to go a step behind in Enopi. But he eventually catch up and the teacher is exposing him to P3 stuff.

[Monster Mummy]

Hi MMM,


I am totally agreed with you as initially, I was wondering whether to let my child to take which course. But i understand from my friend Kumon emphasis on the timing, accuracy and there might be repetitive if children unable to hit their requirement.

Therefore, I arrange for him to take up the Enopi math. Now he is progressing well in Arithmetic and critical thinking.

May I know what is the reason for your end to switch to Enopi math.

[kay22]

fionong:

Bowie:

Hi fionong,


My 2cts. Phonics and Reading. Today, Maths qn is not purely Maths, Kids have to have good command of language to understand the qn.

:lol:

Hi Bowie,

Thats true. Think I shall let her continue with her Phonic and Reading 1st.

Hi Hi

Can I know where do u send your child to Phonics & Reading?

[MMM]

For me, it was partially because of KSP. I happened to chance upon some feedback on Enopi and thought it sound interesting. Also, I found Kumon too arithmetic and it neglects the part on critcial thinking maths which is critical in the syllabus today. So I made the switch.


We never looked back and I was glad this was a right decision in our case. I am not against Kumon. Good for those who are on kumon and doing well in school. But I still find that the being good arithmetically doesn’t mean you can do well in critical thinking maths. Yes, you can do the arithmetic sums faster and accurate but if you can’t solve those critical thinking problems then your scores will still not be good. So yes, Enopi is both arithmetic given that they still have worksheets to complete but they are also trained in the critical thinking part which is crucial.

Another observation is the worksheets… too many homework for kumon. Daily worksheets, you are good in maths because you keep practising the same thing over and over again. I call it perfection through repetition. Enopi worksheets are more colorful and usually I get the kids to complete their 3 workbooks within 2 evenings.

Actually, in the centre they go to, there are alot of ex-kumon students as well. The instructor shared with me the common problems with the students are good arithmetically but weak in critical thinking that they must start at low level. Frankly not sure if it is due to my son’s background with kumon, he is still weaker in critical thinking as compared to his siblings who have never done kumon.

[mwchua]

hi,


Anyone with kids in Enopi Maths Sengkang or Punggol branch and care to share their feedback?

Thanks.

Rgds,
Ming

[meiah]

Hi,


is the program really helpful and can build foundation for concepts? Cos my ds2 rather slow in maths and thinking questions. i think if he were to go, he will start from the lower levels.

[titank]

MMM:

For me, it was partially because of KSP. I happened to chance upon some feedback on Enopi and thought it sound interesting. Also, I found Kumon too arithmetic and it neglects the part on critcial thinking maths which is critical in the syllabus today. So I made the switch.


We never looked back and I was glad this was a right decision in our case. I am not against Kumon. Good for those who are on kumon and doing well in school. But I still find that the being good arithmetically doesn't mean you can do well in critical thinking maths. Yes, you can do the arithmetic sums faster and accurate but if you can't solve those critical thinking problems then your scores will still not be good. So yes, Enopi is both arithmetic given that they still have worksheets to complete but they are also trained in the critical thinking part which is crucial.

Another observation is the worksheets..... too many homework for kumon. Daily worksheets, you are good in maths because you keep practising the same thing over and over again. I call it perfection through repetition. Enopi worksheets are more colorful and usually I get the kids to complete their 3 workbooks within 2 evenings.

Actually, in the centre they go to, there are alot of ex-kumon students as well. The instructor shared with me the common problems with the students are good arithmetically but weak in critical thinking that they must start at low level. Frankly not sure if it is due to my son's background with kumon, he is still weaker in critical thinking as compared to his siblings who have never done kumon.

Hi MMM,

Agreed that it is important to stick to a program for certain period of time so that can see the result. By the way, Enopi Maths there are total 24 levels to cover when the child reach P6?

Based on your experience, once the child in P3 the Maths is totally another style as compare when they are in P1 & P2?