2014 TOP PSLE T-SCORE (EXCL HMT) - THE MAGIC 3D NUMBERS

[houselizard]

We won’t be able to know how MOE’s computation on the T-score as we don’t know the formula and the actual results. However, I was told we can’t simply look at A or A* as A could be Higher A or Lower A, likewise for A*.


My DD has 3 A* + A(Chinese) but her T-score was 254 but someone else has 3 A* + A(English) but T-score was 261. Anyway, the COP is based on T-scores and not based on how many A* or A.

[KSP]

pirate:

lynntan15:

Think will be good to know which subjects scored A*. An A* in Science or English might be worth more marks in T-score than Math? If the average for Math is higher than Science/English, since T-score is mainly an deviation from Mean.

Where do you get the idea that the average for Math is higher than Science/English? Or is this just a rhetorical question?

From what I can gather from some primary schools' websites, the national statistics are:

English
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.0%, 2011 - 97.7%
A*-A : 2013 - 44.4%, 2013 - 44.7%, 2011 - 44.4%

Maths
A*-C : 2013 - 85.3%, 2012 - 85.3%, 2011 - 84.2%
A*-A : 2013 - 45.3%, 2012 - 44.5%, 2011 - 43.5%

Science
A*-C : 2013 - 90.3%, 2012 - 90.5%, 2011 - 90.5%
A*-A : 2013 - 42.0%, 2012 - 42.3%, 2011 - 43.5%

CL
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.3%, 2011 - 97.3%
A*-A : 2013 - 77.8%, 2012 - 80.7%, 2011 - 80.6%

ML
A*-C : 2013 - 97.3%, 2012 - 98.0%, 2011 - 97.9%
A*-A : 2013 - 73.6%, 2012 - 74.1%, 2011 - 72.3%

TL
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.7%, 2011 - 98.3%
A*-A : 2013 - 77.6%, 2012 - 78.3%, 2011 - 77.5%

Looking at the statistics above, CL has the highest A*/A of 77.8% whereas Sci has lowest A*/A of 42%. So, it is true that getting an A* in Sci will carry more Tscore than getting an A* in CL?

[lynntan15]

pirate:

Where do you get the idea that the average for Math is higher than Science/English? Or is this just a rhetorical question?

It is just a rhetorical question.[quote]Science A*-A : 2013 - 42.0%, 2012 - 42.3%, 2011 - 43.5%
English A*-A : 2013 - 44.4%, 2013 - 44.7%, 2011 - 44.4%
Maths A*-A : 2013 - 45.3%, 2012 - 44.5%, 2011 - 43.5%
Malay A*-A : 2013 - 73.6%, 2012 - 74.1%, 2011 - 72.3%
Tamil A*-A : 2013 - 77.6%, 2012 - 78.3%, 2011 - 77.5%
Chinese A*-A : 2013 - 77.8%, 2012 - 80.7%, 2011 - 80.6%[/quote]In order of which subject A* is worth more point, based on your statistics. :evil: :evil:

[jedamum]

KSP:

pirate:

[quote=\"lynntan15\"]Think will be good to know which subjects scored A*. An A* in Science or English might be worth more marks in T-score than Math? If the average for Math is higher than Science/English, since T-score is mainly an deviation from Mean.

Where do you get the idea that the average for Math is higher than Science/English? Or is this just a rhetorical question?

From what I can gather from some primary schools' websites, the national statistics are:

English
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.0%, 2011 - 97.7%
A*-A : 2013 - 44.4%, 2013 - 44.7%, 2011 - 44.4%

Maths
A*-C : 2013 - 85.3%, 2012 - 85.3%, 2011 - 84.2%
A*-A : 2013 - 45.3%, 2012 - 44.5%, 2011 - 43.5%

Science
A*-C : 2013 - 90.3%, 2012 - 90.5%, 2011 - 90.5%
A*-A : 2013 - 42.0%, 2012 - 42.3%, 2011 - 43.5%

CL
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.3%, 2011 - 97.3%
A*-A : 2013 - 77.8%, 2012 - 80.7%, 2011 - 80.6%

ML
A*-C : 2013 - 97.3%, 2012 - 98.0%, 2011 - 97.9%
A*-A : 2013 - 73.6%, 2012 - 74.1%, 2011 - 72.3%

TL
A*-C : 2013 - 97.1%, 2012 - 97.7%, 2011 - 98.3%
A*-A : 2013 - 77.6%, 2012 - 78.3%, 2011 - 77.5%

Looking at the statistics above, CL has the highest A*/A of 77.8% whereas Sci has lowest A*/A of 42%. So, it is true that getting an A* in Sci will carry more Tscore than getting an A* in CL?[/quote]I don't know if getting an A* in science is more than getting an A* in chinese, but if so many people getting A* and A in chinese, it will be disadvantaged to not do well in chinese. Is my interpretation correct ? Or should interpretate as, if don't do well in chinese in school (like B), still can easily get an A?

[KSP]

jedamum:

I don't know if getting an A* in science is more than getting an A* in chinese, but if so many people getting A* and A in chinese, it will be disadvantaged to not do well in chinese. Is my interpretation correct ? Or should interpretate as, if don't do well in chinese in school (like B), still can easily get an A?

My interpretation is, if one do well in CL is a norm coz more students are in this pool. But if one do well in Science then is more rewarding coz the pool is rare. If anyone didn't do well in any subject, the overall Tscore will be pulled down.

[lynntan15]

jedamum:

I don't know if getting an A* in science is more than getting an A* in chinese, but if so many people getting A* and A in chinese, it will be disadvantaged to not do well in chinese. Is my interpretation correct ? Or should interpretate as, if don't do well in chinese in school (like B), still can easily get an A?

Actually, looking at A* is only one part of the equation. Another part would be the \"standard deviation\". A mark more in Chinese is worth more than a mark in science.

Ultimately, I guess it sort of balance.. So still have to be good in all subjects to score high tscore. :nosebleed: :torchme: :torchme:

[711mum]

KSP's analogy makes sense to me

[magiccastle]

My friend’s dd scored 250 3A and A* in Chinese

Another friend’s nephew scored 257 3A* and A in Chinese

[fatherOfaS_andaD]

Hi Parents, May I know what is the highest score for Ngee Ann Primary School?

From two different sources, I heard it is 271. But no first hand information.

[Stressedupmom]

fatherOfaS_andaD:

manifits:

Hi Parents, May I know what is the highest score for Ngee Ann Primary School?

From two different sources, I heard it is 271. But no first hand information.

It's 271, scored by my girl's ex- math tuition mate.