All About Autism

[Couragemom]

Hi Snow24,


For rainbow centre eipic, it is mandatory to submit a formal ASD assessment report within 6 months after being accepted into their program (queuing to get in that time no need the report, the PD letter will suffice).

The reason for asking for a formal psychologist assessment report is to ensure that your child is placed in the right program as Rainbow offers both general (for GDD, CP or DS child) and ASD class. The assessment done by their own panel of therapists/teachers and psychologist is more to determine the specific weaknesses the child have and to place him or her in the most appropriate class and to determine whether 1-to-1 is needed for therapies like OT and ST.

Try to call the specific eipic that you are aiming for your son and talk direct to the eipic department staff to ask if the centre needs the ASD report AFTER your son has been accepted.

[Autumnleaf]

Hello, back again to ask for some opinion with experienced parents that have gone through formal screening with their child.


Last Friday my son completed his last assessment, WISC -V, WIAAT, ASDS. We are waiting for the report which we will get on the 26th.

Just curious, for the ASDS, It was just a form I had to fill and indicate whether the 50 or so symptoms are observed in my child.

After I submitted the form to the physcolpgist, we went through and she did change quite a few… As during her time interacting with my son, she found he is able to reply and interact etc.

Curious though as me and Hb find that on day to day my sons give and take interaction with people is lacking evidently, though not always. As in, often when people greet him, he fails to respond or does not even look at them when we make him respond. So me and Hb wonder in such case, when filling the forms, is it the observation of that 2 hrs that is a better gage, or the everyday observation that me and Hb had observed?

[tyeogh]

The 2 hours interaction is for the psychologist to assess, out of which it will generate two reports (or one, can’t remember). The questionaire is for the parents to complete, out of which it will generate one report. You should fill it with your observation of your child on a day to day basis. The psychologist helps change your answers for accuracy because some questions are very detailed and are looking for a specific answer. The findings from these reports are studied, explained and used to derive a conclusion.

[tyeogh]

Autumnleaf,

Did you get a headache after completing your questionaire? For me, the psychologist quizzed me on every question and filled it in herself. 70+ questions over 2 hours!!

I came out groggy. :frustrated:

[Autumnleaf]

Tyeogh, I filled it out myself while the dr was conducting the WIAAT with my son. It wasn’t too bad but coz some of the behaviors listed were interpreted differently ERC which after she explained and changed I understood. But there were a couple that she changed based on her clinical observation that I feel a bit unsure coz its like dismissing our day to day observation.

Well that’s was for the Asperger Sydrome Diagnostic Scale. For the Behaivioral Inteventory executive function (BRIEF) form, I had to pass one to my DS form teacher, fill one my self and my DS filled out too…

It sounds crazy and foolish, but I hope something is picked up. Just so tired of being worked up over my DS compulsive behavior and caning him almost every other day till his back side tough like leather liao!
Feel bad and worried for him, also wish to understand him more.

[tyeogh]

The result is just a stack of papers, mostly unintelligible bec it is too deep....for me. Maybe you will understand it better and hopefully pick something up.


I endorse caning and cane my son too. However, I will do it at a time he understands. Else there is nothing to learn. When younger, he didn't even understand pain so it was pointless. Compulsive behavior is iffy to me. :scratchhead:

Now, he understands so I whack really hard. Full man strength. Sometimes lots of cane marks. Hands and legs only. I haven't heard of anyone who died from caning. All my NT kids were caned. Today, they are prefects and win Edusave Character awards, a coveted prize only 2% of each cohort get.

[Niu2009]

I don 'to believe caning, either NT or special kids. Especially for our kids, we don’t understand their mind. For me, always tell myself my baby has difficulty to tell us why he did that, but I must try my best to help him, no matter how hard it is.

[sharonkhoo]

Autumnleaf:

It sounds crazy and foolish, but I hope something is picked up. Just so tired of being worked up over my DS compulsive behavior and caning him almost every other day till his back side tough like leather liao!

Feel bad and worried for him, also wish to understand him more.

I have an Aspie daughter (now 18yo), and I know what you are going through now. Yes, it's good to know that you aren't imagining things, but getting a report doesn't change anything. You still have to deal with the day to day stuff, and it actually increases the parents' \"work\" because you can't just blame it on disobedience.

One thing that really helped me was to see things from their eyes too. Try googling for information (there's a lot online) or reading books. There's much more info there than there will be in any report, and the psychologist can't spend that much time explaining things to you either. If you can do that, then it's easier to think of ways to remediate, and even when you get fed up, you know it's not defiance or disobedience.

What sort of compulsive behaviours does your son show? It may be more effective to find ways to distract, limit or teach alternative (more acceptable) behaviours rather than caning. Caning just shows your disapproval, but doesn't necessarily teach him to behave in another way.

[pinkamoon]

Like tyeogh, I started to cane my son when he was 1. He was in his own world and only through pain could he understand what could or could not be done.

As he grew and started to understand the world around him, caning does not seem to be useful in bringing out of his world. Once in a while when I pinch his cheek when he is really naughty, he will ask me why I have to hit him. It also gives him the wrong signal that it is okay for him to hit other children when they are naughty. I also worry that he will think that it is acceptable if other adults hit him.
The truth is only with love and patience can we bring out their true self. Since I was a child, I was hit by my mum who also has 4 children.Yes, we learn to be good and we are filial to them now but as a child, I always hoped to be born in another family.

[Autumnleaf]

Guess for me and Hb we dun wish to cane so often… But we strongly believe if the child is defiant or disobedient, then must cane and also explain to them why mitigate such discipline. We remind our children that its because we love them that we bother to correct.


But problem is I find my ds1 is compulsive in such ways; he’d take apart pens and mechanical pens after I have talked to him abt how he is wasting money when he breaks these perfectly good stationery. Such instances can repeat months at a go, despite talking, explaining, chances, caning… This is only one example. More recently, he’s doing hw then while I nurse baby in the room and told DS to finish his work…but once I came out, DS was playing despite not finishing his school hw while his 6 yr old sister is able to carry out her task and finish her k2 hw before playing. That day DS was reprimanded and caned, but the very next day it happens again. So he is a kid who gets caned quite a lot… Though I wish not to I dont know how else to correct him as we have tried incentives, talking, encouraging even giving chances but often he the whole cycle repeats.