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    Children of average ability

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    • ChiefKiasuC Offline
      ChiefKiasu
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      buds:
      ...Speaking of manners, one student of mine has a sister who loves answering the house phone in a secretarial manner imitating their business-woman mommy. I ever got an answer like this when i called the home to speak to the mom. Its a shocker to hear a secretarial tone in a mini voice... Heheee.. But cute...
      That's hilarious! :lol: You should tape that conversation next time and post it up here. How old is the kid?

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        tamarind
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        insider:

        If only we can accept that our kids are average and love them for what they are without comparing them to Annie's daughter or Betty's son (or comparing him/her with another sibling), the kids will be a happier bunch...
        I do not compare my son with my daughter. As I wrote earlier, we make him believe that he can do everything that his sister can do. But I cannot stop him from feeling unhappy because he realizes on his own, that he is unable to do certain things that his sister can do. I cannot possibly ask my girl not to do those things in front of him.

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          tamarind
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          buds,

          Thanks for sharing πŸ˜„ It was only until a few weeks ago, that my son is able to carry on a complete conversation with me on the phone. Before that, he only knew how to say hello and bye bye on the phone. I am not sure why because he has been talking well since around 2 years old. Somehow he does not quite understanding that speaking to mommy on the telephone is the same as speaking to mommy face to face.

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            buds
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            Heyya tamarind,


            3 cheers for boy-boy!
            :celebrate:

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              buds
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              Heyya Chief,


              Smart kid's age was 7 yrs old.
              Was in RGPS then..

              So professional, ay?

              Mould from young...
              Old enuf can take over business from mummy.. πŸ˜‰

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                tamarind
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                I am now teaching hundreds of young adults of at least 17 years and above, in an institution that do not group students according to their grades. In every class, there are always about 10-20% of students who are much more intelligent compared to the rest of the class. However, we have to design the syllabus so that the other 80% of the students are able to pass. Which means that those top 20% who are capable of learning so much more, were not able to do so.


                On the other hand, the bottom 10 - 20% of the students, who do not even understand basic algebra, or cannot even divide 1/2 by 2/3, are made to learn integration and Laplace Transforms. Needless to say, they were not able to understand of such complex mathematics.

                I think it is not right to expect all students to be capable of learning the same thing. These students are already over 17 years old, so you cannot say that they just "need more time to develop", right ?

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                  buds
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                  Heyya shylyn,


                  You're most welcome! πŸ˜‰

                  No worries on the late reply, just catch up when you can, yeah!

                  1. Curriculum Developers
                  As far as i've noticed, yes, the developers seem to be local.
                  Hence their inclusion of lessons from other countries like
                  festivals and people of the world for the geography part of
                  Cultural Activities bring the outside world into the classrooms.
                  Its very interesting and children will benefit from such knowledge.
                  In my opinion, local developers will take into consideration the
                  much needed knowledge children need to acquire before entering
                  Primary 1, hence the curriculum can be more in line to our local
                  context. And that is a good thing lah... Hence, through the years
                  MMI has fine-tuned a lot of their lessons and worksheets to
                  accommodate our ever changing primary school syllabus, since
                  they first started. This shows improvement from when they first
                  started out. But again, every end result of the children still depends
                  on the teacher's calibre and passion for teaching young children...
                  But on the whole, i find that its curriculum is holistic and prepares
                  our children for primary education.

                  2. Back to work?
                  Yes, i hope to join the workforce again as much as i can. I would
                  like to retain what i have learnt over the years through hands on
                  practise. My condition is very simple - i must have a conducive
                  working environment. Nice boss, nice place and nice people.. πŸ™
                  As i have the upper hand in the sense of experience(ehem), i select
                  my place of work... hehee... I do not enjoy working in a people-politics
                  kinda working environment. It distracts the much needed devotion
                  towards teaching children.

                  3. Childcare children
                  Though i do not fancy children being in childcare (if they do not need to),
                  i do not deny that children who have been in childcare develop into
                  non-picky and independent eaters for one... as they HAVE TO eat what-
                  ever is being served on the table. This is a good thing.

                  Children who have been in childcare develop good sleep routine.
                  (For full day children) Even after childcare, they will sleep at the
                  designated times they have done so in childcare. And they will
                  sleep fast. Without the talk and the lullabies and stuff to lull them to
                  sleep. They will just sleep. Hehee..

                  Rotten apples? Everywhere oso have lah.. Bo pian. Its not just the
                  duty of the childcare to mould the child. Parents must play active
                  role to be PARENTS.

                  4. New Curriculum
                  As for the new curriculum, push for it okay.. until you get it.
                  Its your right as a parent to know what is being taught or what
                  will be taught to your children.

                  5. Messy Classroom Management
                  Highlight what you have seen to the person in charge and the teacher.
                  Don't suffer in silence. It must've been heartbreaking to see your son
                  in that situation that unfortunate day.. hopefully and oversight due to
                  the many children to a class. 😞 The teachers take turns to care for the
                  sleeping children, have their lunch and prepare to afternoon lessons
                  during the children's nap time. Talk it out with them so it will help ease
                  the disturbed feeling you felt that day. My heart goes out to your son.
                  The poor dearie..

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                    tamarind
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                    insider,

                    Ooops. Anyway, I also want to clarify in case other parents get the wrong idea.

                    As for my later post, I was only ranting about the system, and about those people who think that all children are equal and should be taught the same way. I am not necessarily referring to you. I have edited that message and removed your quote.

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                      tamarind
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                      [quote]
                      Also, his current class is rather messy with 22 kids to 2 teachers (though there r 2 assistants in the morn) & I was really concerned when I popped by yest to peek at my boy while he was sleeping. His pants were soaked in urine & he was still sucking to his empty bottle, which disturbed me a lot as I don't know whether this is a norm a not! According to his teacher, he just wet his pants & in fact, frequently gg to the toilet. But my boy will tell us whenever he wants to go to the toilet! He wont just wet his pants even when he is sleeping![/quote]Shylyn,
                      I would be very disturbed too if I were you ! I agree with buds. Don't suffer in silence ! My heart goes out to your son too.

                      [quote]3. Childcare children
                      Though i do not fancy children being in childcare (if they do not need to),
                      i do not deny that children who have been in childcare develop into
                      non-picky and independent eaters for one... as they HAVE TO eat what-
                      ever is being served on the table. This is a good thing. [/quote]buds,
                      This may be generally true for most children. However, I know of cases where the child simply does not eat anything in the CC. My brother's daughter was very difficult to feed, her CC teacher had no patience feeding her, so she simply went through the whole day without eating anything. My brother had to withdraw her and keep her at home (mommy's not working).

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                        buds
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                        Heyya tamarind,


                        Gee. The poor thing.. i can totally feel your brother's situation.
                        No need to look so far for an example. My kiddies are picky
                        eaters too. I don't blame them for not wanting to eat the
                        childcare food cos as they have been raised by me, in our
                        home, with our food preparations and our own menu,
                        eating at another place other than home is kinda hard..
                        So, its not entirely their fault.

                        They were both not cared for by anyone else except me,
                        hence i understand too if they were clingy and had longer
                        separation anxiety (till it hurts my heart, it aches to watch
                        them cry.. 😞 )

                        But, never dwell on the problem. It prolongs.
                        Instead, find a solution to problems. Or so i thought..

                        I was doing a part-time stint in a centre one time, hence
                        I had to bring my kiddies with me in the mornings when
                        i work, and they'll both go to their kindergartens in the
                        afternoon after lunch. They were both not in the same
                        class with each other or myself. Which was a good thing
                        so i cud work better. But the treatment i showered over
                        my class kiddies varied from how my kid was treated
                        and i began to regret rushing to go back to work...

                        It wasn't just the verbal abuse my P2 endured. She was
                        mocked at for being introverted, for not wanting to eat
                        the childcare food she was scolded and for crying silent
                        tears (to herself) ... called a baby. If from the other
                        classmates i might've been more understanding. But,
                        the TEACHER started it! Not to sound petty, but the
                        stuff P2 went thru during my stint (very short one!)
                        was enuf to last me a lifetime of nightmares. When i
                        watch kiddies sleep at night, at times i'm being haunted
                        of the memory of that experience which they went thru.
                        Just cos mummy had to work...

                        And even thru all the mis-treatment P2 received, at the
                        end of the day when i tuck her in to bed and ask her if
                        she's all right... her answer wud be...

                        \"Its okay mum, i understand. You have to work...\"
                        ................... 😞 ..........................

                        Sorry, side tracked a bit..

                        Ok, i really tried my best to solve the situation.
                        It shud've worked both ways. I prepare my own
                        lunch for my two kiddies before we leave home.
                        If i am done with lunch for my class, i'll assist
                        my own kiddies to theirs or else even if i'm not
                        physically there, they'll eat it, cos i prepared it.
                        I didnt wanna impose on the other staff to handle
                        my kids since i was there. Plus they had many
                        other children who needed settling down.. I said,
                        once they know mummy can prepare the food
                        for their lunch they won't be so stressed at every
                        makan time. I offered to slowly adapt them into the
                        \"eating childcare food\" by allowing the teacher to
                        feed her. I wud remove their lunch box and prepare
                        the table for her to eat, pass her back to teacher after
                        telling her i gotta send the children in my class back
                        to their parents. After which, i will come back and get
                        her.

                        At home, i wud tell them that they shud try other types
                        of food in school. If they don't try they wud not know if
                        it was yucky or yummy. So, a bite to taste wudn't hurt.
                        If its yucky, quickly drink water. If yummy, finish it and
                        even ask for extra helpings if you want. Teacher will give
                        if the kitchen still has extra. I wud tell them the same thing
                        in front of the teacher at makan time to reinforce the
                        encouragement..

                        Point is - I didn't want to give the staff a hard time and i
                        wanted to swiftly settle my kids into the environment...
                        Try to work everything out diplomatically lah..

                        The idea is not to force. When forced, they'll refuse anything
                        and everything. And cry.. And childcare will be that bad place
                        mummy and daddy sent me to while they work. It worked for
                        K2 cause the teachers and support staff were helpful and
                        more compassionate. Eventually, she ate what she liked and
                        tried a little something for a first time for others.. πŸ˜„ I also
                        noted to the centre's cook to help me provide the smallest
                        portion to my kiddies for whatever makan time, so they don't
                        feel so overwhelmed (like MUST finish the whole bowl!) or too
                        afraid to try, cos if just take one bite to taste, teacher will scold
                        them for wasting food. A portion just enuf to try out..

                        Plus, there was that milk time before nap hour... that shud help
                        warm up even the emptiest stomach and the grumpiest child,
                        unless if the child does not like to drink milk.

                        For P2, (to make long story short) suffice to say... she was thrown
                        the bowl in front of her and was told by the teacher from hell...
                        \"There's your lunch. And don't you dare tell your mummy i forced
                        you...\" (This was witnessed by a staff and related to me..)

                        I found her crying while waiting for me to send her to her
                        kindergarten in the afternoon, after my class was dismissed...
                        She refused to say what happened. She just dried her eyes and
                        said she was fine now that she saw me. Gave me a big hug and
                        told me she was so looking forward to her afternoon school...

                        When i came back to centre after that to pick up K2 and was
                        mumbling to some other staff who usually sit together with me,
                        about my confusion... (How come P2 was crying silently but when
                        i asked nothing happened she said and teacher also said nothing in
                        particular. Teacher added you know lah your girl too soft, little bit
                        only cry.. the usual only.. nothing in particular.. ) The staff who
                        witnessed the incident felt so bad she just had to tell me on the
                        account i do not expose her.

                        Amongst all the other mis-treatment plus the audacity to throw
                        food to my child, that was definitely the last straw to my patience.
                        I suppose in my case patience wasn't such a virtue. More to weak-
                        ness, hahahaaa! I withdraw her - 24hrs notice! And most definitely,
                        stopped working there. But i was still professional enuf to give ample
                        notice! I said my decision to withdraw is based from a parent's view.
                        My decision to quit is to fully take care of my children hence i cannot
                        work without a proper caregiver. (Which to much disappointment, the
                        childcare is not able to provide... I planned the curriculum, photocopied
                        all the worksheets, changed the thematic board, printed out the upcoming
                        newsletters to parents for the next three months and handed over to the
                        teacher who was initially assigned the class but was serving notice...
                        Boy, was she happy. First time came into work, no need to prepare
                        ANYTHING.

                        This post is kinda long, sorry for that..
                        Just to share with you, i sooooo understand what your brother went thru.
                        Maybe at an even deeper level. In my lifetime and through the course of
                        my journey in this early childhood industry, i have NEVER subjected the
                        children under my care nor my own (of course) to nasty treatment! So,
                        for another person to do that, (not just to other people's children, but
                        even to my own kid - even the teachers know - who is very quiet and
                        well behaved ) - i tell you.... its beyond words.

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