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    • T Offline
      TheAnswer
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      Augmum:
      starlight1968sg:

      Pardon me, is en bloc :

      most of the residents living in the same condo agreed to rebuild the whole condo?

      πŸ˜‚ Whatever lah...afterall, that's not even an English word...

      Over 80% finally agreed to sell..otherwise, No deal...

      It is quite hard to get 80% to agree isnt it?

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        Coolkidsrock2
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        Augmum:
        Regarding Enbloc...Collective sale of residential ppty...


        Those developments which were of great potential for collective sale...alrdy caught the eyes of developers as they were being Enbloc Years ago during the past Enbloc fever...Developers' eyes are much brighter n sharper than ours...

        Am also keeping a lookout for one...
        One which has the potential like my previous house which reaped handsome profit from the collective sale...

        BUT in current market... to single out 1 out of the many remaining developments...
        Dump in n tie up my funds in a decade(s) - old ppty ... sitting on it.... waiting for possibly of enbloc which may or may Not materialise many yrs later ....hmm...??? :scratchhead:

        Becos those remaining ones in the market right now are obviously the less appealing ones to the eyes of developers ... be it price, location or plot ratio, etc...

        Or they are those which had undergone unsuccessful / problematic enbloc attempts in the past ....( Fail in price neg or fail to garner 80% votes, or simply no takers) ... But owners are asking for high premiums as they factored in the enbloc premium...
        To add on, sometimes the unit may be in its original condition so the renovation costs can be very high. In the range of 300-500k.

        Even if you do up your unit nicely, there is a risk of water leakage by your neighbour into your unit. Sometimes, this can escalate into a legal matter.

        These projects may also require more repairs or replacements. Again $$$.

        Parent's home was enbloc. Having gone through one round, I personally will not buy with this objective. But I know people who like to invest in properties with enbloc potential.

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          Augmum
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          starlight1968sg:
          Augmum:

          [quote=\"starlight1968sg\"]Pardon me, is en bloc :

          most of the residents living in the same condo agreed to rebuild the whole condo?

          πŸ˜‚ Whatever lah...afterall, that's not even an English word...

          Over 80% finally agreed to sell..otherwise, No deal...

          Agreed to sell to who?
          Do the residents have to move out and where would they live?[/quote]Sold to developer lor...

          Yes...need to vacate the ppty on stipulated date, with everything removed...
          Where would the residents live ?? That would hv to be θ‡ͺ己保重啰... πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‚

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            Augmum
            last edited by

            Coolkidsrock2:
            Augmum:

            Regarding Enbloc...Collective sale of residential ppty...


            Those developments which were of great potential for collective sale...alrdy caught the eyes of developers as they were being Enbloc Years ago during the past Enbloc fever...Developers' eyes are much brighter n sharper than ours...

            Am also keeping a lookout for one...
            One which has the potential like my previous house which reaped handsome profit from the collective sale...

            BUT in current market... to single out 1 out of the many remaining developments...
            Dump in n tie up my funds in a decade(s) - old ppty ... sitting on it.... waiting for possibly of enbloc which may or may Not materialise many yrs later ....hmm...??? :scratchhead:

            Becos those remaining ones in the market right now are obviously the less appealing ones to the eyes of developers ... be it price, location or plot ratio, etc...

            Or they are those which had undergone unsuccessful / problematic enbloc attempts in the past ....( Fail in price neg or fail to garner 80% votes, or simply no takers) ... But owners are asking for high premiums as they factored in the enbloc premium...

            To add on, sometimes the unit may be in its original condition so the renovation costs can be very high. In the range of 300-500k.

            Even if you do up your unit nicely, there is a risk of water leakage by your neighbour into your unit. Sometimes, this can escalate into a legal matter.

            These projects may also require more repairs or replacements. Again $$$.

            Parent's home was enbloc. Having gone through one round, I personally will not buy with this objective. But I know people who like to invest in properties with enbloc potential.

            Agree...on that part that renovation cost will run up real high if the ppty is of original condition in decades-old projects...

            One of the nightmares is to buy a house with water leakage ... during the period of house hunting...i had seen several houses across various developments with this water leakage problem...even projects which were only few yrs old...

            The demage done to the parquet floorings, the built- in wardrobe...many more... :slapshead:
            One of them, the water leakage was so bad ...that there was a musty smell in the entire house ...so much so that the owner needed to light scented candles during the house viewing.... πŸ˜‰

            Yup...def more repair works have to be done on such old projects...when it is too exp for residents to bear...they would rather vote against it...

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              Augmum
              last edited by

              TheAnswer:
              Augmum:



              Over 80% finally agreed to sell..otherwise, No deal...

              It is quite hard to get 80% to agree isnt it?

              Generally, the bigger the project ( land area) ...the harder to garner 80% share value to agree to it...

              For developments which are less than 10 yrs old, need 90% ...

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              • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
                Coolkidsrock2
                last edited by

                Augmum:
                Coolkidsrock2:

                [quote=\"Augmum\"]Regarding Enbloc...Collective sale of residential ppty...


                Those developments which were of great potential for collective sale...alrdy caught the eyes of developers as they were being Enbloc Years ago during the past Enbloc fever...Developers' eyes are much brighter n sharper than ours...

                Am also keeping a lookout for one...
                One which has the potential like my previous house which reaped handsome profit from the collective sale...

                BUT in current market... to single out 1 out of the many remaining developments...
                Dump in n tie up my funds in a decade(s) - old ppty ... sitting on it.... waiting for possibly of enbloc which may or may Not materialise many yrs later ....hmm...??? :scratchhead:

                Becos those remaining ones in the market right now are obviously the less appealing ones to the eyes of developers ... be it price, location or plot ratio, etc...

                Or they are those which had undergone unsuccessful / problematic enbloc attempts in the past ....( Fail in price neg or fail to garner 80% votes, or simply no takers) ... But owners are asking for high premiums as they factored in the enbloc premium...

                To add on, sometimes the unit may be in its original condition so the renovation costs can be very high. In the range of 300-500k.

                Even if you do up your unit nicely, there is a risk of water leakage by your neighbour into your unit. Sometimes, this can escalate into a legal matter.

                These projects may also require more repairs or replacements. Again $$$.

                Parent's home was enbloc. Having gone through one round, I personally will not buy with this objective. But I know people who like to invest in properties with enbloc potential.

                Agree...on that part that renovation cost will run up real high if the ppty is of original condition in decades-old projects...

                One of the nightmares is to buy a house with water leakage ... during the period of house hunting...i had seen several houses across various developments with this water leakage problem...even projects which were only few yrs old...

                The demage done to the parquet floorings, the built- in wardrobe...many more... :slapshead:
                One of them, the water leakage was so bad ...that there was a musty smell in the entire house ...so much so that the owner needed to light scented candles during the house viewing.... πŸ˜‰

                Yup...def more repair works have to be done on such old projects...when it is too exp for residents to bear...they would rather vote against it...[/quote]Somethings very hard to vote against, like replacement of lifts or leakages so bad that it causes short circuit.

                I know someone who experienced internal leaks shortly after renovating the house. Got to hack and redo. And there is no end to the leaking problem from neighbour's unit.

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                  GiftedGem
                  last edited by

                  Agreed totally for those old condos, giving a lot of problems.


                  Water leaking is one of the key issues and lifts also got problem. Visited one of my relative’s old condo in Orchard and only 2 lifts servicing 15 floors. The MCST sent a note to residents advising one lift would be on non-operational mode (10am-4pm daily ) due to heavy maintenance cost.

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                    GiftedGem
                    last edited by

                    MrsKiasu:


                    Me too, freehold mentality. The prices there can be very high and some quite affordable if compared to new launches elsewhere I find..got quite a few below $1.5k psf. Cyan is ex also coz quite new. We went to see Cyan b4 (got free time mah πŸ˜‚ ) I find that those balcony really a waste..big chunk of it. Something like Balmoral Hills...heart pain la. On Cyan, the block facing nearer to main road may not as good as the one inside..not sure tho as we just stepped into 2 units at block further from the road. The diff in rent due to this?

                    For Robins Res, for 134 units, the mgt fee should be quite high right?

                    Think the Stevens Mrt is an interchange also in few years time(?) Saw some maps from the link in the Pri school thread that there will be an exit next to Equatorial. Looks so convenient but i m just imagining about the high activities underground when the residents up there sleeping πŸ˜‰ else it would be nice..like having Mrt at doorstep.
                    I din like the road leading to Keng Lee ( where Cyan is located ) as the other condos are coming in and out using this same road. Fortunately, Cyan is located near to main road. If it is near to The Princeton or Gisborne, the price would drop quite substantially.

                    Yes.. there will be an underground walkway leading from SCGS to MRT as advised by the agent. Not too sure if there is an interchange... if yes, the property price will surely escalate.

                    If you have seen good ones, let me know. Cheers.

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                      GiftedGem
                      last edited by

                      TheAnswer:
                      If anyone come across worthy to buy property, dun mind give me a heads up.. Am still shopping around but not as kan jiong now..

                      Heard you have gotten a new property in Lakeville....
                      Congrats !

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                        TheAnswer
                        last edited by

                        GiftedGem:
                        TheAnswer:

                        If anyone come across worthy to buy property, dun mind give me a heads up.. Am still shopping around but not as kan jiong now..


                        Heard you have gotten a new property in Lakeville....
                        Congrats !

                        Thanks.. am still scouting around for good buys.. wanna buy another one before I turn 35.. older harder to take loan.. so hopefully can get another good buy soon..

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