Some students fail to thrive on Integrated Programme scheme

[The Pasta Greely]

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My dd is not disciplined in studying ie mugging but displayed high interest in out of classroom learning. So should she go into a IP school ?

She is suitable to go to one but she must change her attitude all she'll be beaten. That's what I learnt from my daughter Rosalinda (15) and my son Marcus (10). Rosalinda was hardworking and got admitted to both GEP and IP, so I thought that I could let Marcus do whatever he wanted when he got into GEP. That was my biggesr mistake. Marcus was lazy and he barely passed his math exam 35/40 (GEP says you must get 70% to pass)

Also, his compo (chinese) is flunking. Average score is 20+. Rosalinda scored 279 for PSLE and I don't think that he will ever get that high.

So yes she should but better chance his/her attitude!

[esme38]

My girl is in a IP school. Your DD or BB has to be disciplined to self study. Almost every classmate are a smart kids. I remember the principal said that in one of the new year opening meet day saying they are the cream of the top cohort and expectation is very high.

[bright-culture]

Hello everyone!


I'm writing an article on the different secondary school programmes available to students, namely the traditional O Level examinations, Integrated Program (IP) and International Baccalaureate (IB).

This article is meant to be a comprehensive and authoritative guide for parents and students on the various programs and how students can select the programme that is best suitable for them.

While the articles/ guides might currently exist, I'm hoping to give an updated view as these programmes have been in place for a few years and many parents / students have completed the full cycle, and have gone on to university where they can compare between students from different routes.

Please let me have your feedback / comments on ANY aspect of the programmes! I have a few questions.

How did your child cope with it?
Was it more / less stressful than traditional O levels?
Did your child enjoy learning more?
Did the programmes live up to your expectations / what was promised?
Do you feel you made the right decision to choose this program?
Did this program give your child an advantage in applying for uni?
Does this program prepare your child better for university or the working world?
Was the syllabus practical?
Was it worth the additional costs?

Let me know ANY feedback at all!!

Greatly appreciate it!

[jlloke.09430gmail.09430com]

Is ip workload much heavier than the ‘o’ level track?

[sharonkhoo]

3R:

Is ip workload much heavier than the 'o' level track?

I think a lot depends on the student, and also the type of work. Some students just work slower than others, or work handed out by teachers may be \"busy-work\" and take a lot of time. I have a daughter in IP and she seems to cope fine - not sleeping late (bedtime is 10.30pm), and still has time for some outside-school activities. I have no direct experience of the O level track, but some of my daughter's friends in the O level track seem to work much longer hours than she does (but so do many in the IP track, so maybe it really depends on the student). But I would say that time management and being well-organised are important for staying on top of the IP workload as the students are not very \"spoonfed\" compared to how it was in my day (O level track as there was no IP then); not sure how it is in the O level track nowadays.

[jlloke.09430gmail.09430com]

slmkhoo:

3R:

Is ip workload much heavier than the 'o' level track?

I think a lot depends on the student, and also the type of work. Some students just work slower than others, or work handed out by teachers may be \"busy-work\" and take a lot of time. I have a daughter in IP and she seems to cope fine - not sleeping late (bedtime is 10.30pm), and still has time for some outside-school activities. I have no direct experience of the O level track, but some of my daughter's friends in the O level track seem to work much longer hours than she does (but so do many in the IP track, so maybe it really depends on the student). But I would say that time management and being well-organised are important for staying on top of the IP workload as the students are not very \"spoonfed\" compared to how it was in my day (O level track as there was no IP then); not sure how it is in the O level track nowadays.

Mmm...as a parent, I worry whether my kids can cope with the ip workload on top of their cca involvement. Looks like I will never know the answer until they are in the program. By then...haha...they will have to make it work for themselves. Anyway thanks for the insight!

[sharonkhoo]

3R:

slmkhoo:

[quote=\"3R\"]Is ip workload much heavier than the 'o' level track?

I think a lot depends on the student, and also the type of work. Some students just work slower than others, or work handed out by teachers may be \"busy-work\" and take a lot of time. I have a daughter in IP and she seems to cope fine - not sleeping late (bedtime is 10.30pm), and still has time for some outside-school activities. I have no direct experience of the O level track, but some of my daughter's friends in the O level track seem to work much longer hours than she does (but so do many in the IP track, so maybe it really depends on the student). But I would say that time management and being well-organised are important for staying on top of the IP workload as the students are not very \"spoonfed\" compared to how it was in my day (O level track as there was no IP then); not sure how it is in the O level track nowadays.

Mmm...as a parent, I worry whether my kids can cope with the ip workload on top of their cca involvement. Looks like I will never know the answer until they are in the program. By then...haha...they will have to make it work for themselves. Anyway thanks for the insight![/quote]You can make an educated guess by seeing how they are coping now. Are they working all hours of the day just to stay afloat? Are they good managers of time or do they need someone else to tell them what and when and how? Are they fairly independent in asking questions and managing their workload or very dependent on others? Are they self-disciplined? If they are already maxed out and needing a lot of handholding in Pr school, then maybe they are not suited for IP.

[jlloke.09430gmail.09430com]

Mmm…as a parent, I worry whether my kids can cope with the ip workload on top of their cca involvement. Looks like I will never know the answer until they are in the program. By then…haha…they will have to make it work for themselves. Anyway thanks for the insight![/quote]

You can make an educated guess by seeing how they are coping now. Are they working all hours of the day just to stay afloat? Are they good managers of time or do they need someone else to tell them what and when and how? Are they fairly independent in asking questions and managing their workload or very dependent on others? Are they self-disciplined? If they are already maxed out and needing a lot of handholding in Pr school, then maybe they are not suited for IP.[/quote]


I can only say that they complete all their homework on their own, without my nagging. If there is any project to be done, they do it themselves. I am not too sure about quality though. Of coz, because they have no tuition, they do come to me for help on questions they dunno. I wonder whether this is sufficient to tell their suitability for ip.

[sharonkhoo]

3R:

I can only say that they complete all their homework on their own, without my nagging. If there is any project to be done, they do it themselves. I am not too sure about quality though. Of coz, because they have no tuition, they do come to me for help on questions they dunno. I wonder whether this is sufficient to tell their suitability for ip.

That sounds quite promising. If they can do that and get decent grades, they should be able to cope with IP.

[jlloke.09430gmail.09430com]

slmkhoo:

3R:

I can only say that they complete all their homework on their own, without my nagging. If there is any project to be done, they do it themselves. I am not too sure about quality though. Of coz, because they have no tuition, they do come to me for help on questions they dunno. I wonder whether this is sufficient to tell their suitability for ip.

That sounds quite promising. If they can do that and get decent grades, they should be able to cope with IP.

Thanks simkhoo. It's nice to hear from someone with kids in ip. Anyway still got time to think thru and choose the one most suitable for my DCs.