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    All About Choosing Piano Schools And Teachers

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    • M Offline
      Maple Oak
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      Hi all,


      all this talk of money makes me want to shift the focus a bit.
      Can I ask all the parents on this forum, what do you hope to give your children through music lessons??

      (And yes, it’s fine to be honest even if one of the goals is to outperform peers… by all means, an honest discussion is always educational)

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        momoftwo
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        Maple Oak:
        Hi all,


        all this talk of money makes me want to shift the focus a bit.
        Can I ask all the parents on this forum, what do you hope to give your children through music lessons??

        (And yes, it's fine to be honest even if one of the goals is to outperform peers... by all means, an honest discussion is always educational)

        Great question. I have been pondering about this for almost a month while looking for a violin teacher for my younger daughter. She is currently in a school owned by a famous violinist. But I have been frustrated with the changes of teacher and lack of empowerment for the teachers. So I went to enquire with NAFA, many private teachers, some are also in SSO, and some music schools. I got overwhelmed. And as I think again, I realise, all I want is just for her to enjoy playing the violin like what she is now. I want teacher that's flexible, which also means that if the kid want to learn Disney songs, then the teacher will also do that instead of focusing that she must achieve certain exam result goal. I want a teacher that can make her love music. If she happened to be great, that's great. If not I am contented that my kids have joy while playing music, and being able to use that as their creative outlet and expression.

        So I decided on a non branded private teacher which I feel comfortable with and is willing to work with me and the kids to ensure the love of music. Likewise, my piano teacher for my elder daughter is the same.

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          momoftwo
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          Btw Ive been wanting to ask this for the longest time. What is DD and what is DS? What do they stand for? Seems like it is used a lot in the local forum. Thanks for enlightening me.

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            peachbubble
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            momoftwo:
            Btw Ive been wanting to ask this for the longest time. What is DD and what is DS? What do they stand for? Seems like it is used a lot in the local forum. Thanks for enlightening me.

            DD means darling daughter. DS means darling son. DH means darling husband.

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              Oh My Gosh
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              What is the difference in the qualifications of \"Diploma in Music Pedagogy\" versus \"BMUS CTAABRSM\"? Which is better? 🤷 :?

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                waiyean
                last edited by

                Maple Oak:
                Hi all,


                all this talk of money makes me want to shift the focus a bit.
                Can I ask all the parents on this forum, what do you hope to give your children through music lessons??

                (And yes, it's fine to be honest even if one of the goals is to outperform peers... by all means, an honest discussion is always educational)
                It evolved along the way.

                When we first began, we wanted to gift our daughter with the love of music, probably because of our own interest as well. Also, it's a known fact that learning music makes a child brighter, hence being the kiasu parents we were, we wouldn't pass an opportunity to give her a head start in life.

                Learning an instrument is not easy. As the lessons progressed, it became much more than just for the love of music. It takes lots of commitment and hard work from the child to persevere. Learning music became a life lesson in understanding the relationship between hard work and outcome; we hope that DD will learn that if you are willing to work hard, anything is possible.

                Then, DD decided that she wants to make music her career in future. So, lessons are now structured to prepare her for advanced study in music. She is probably still too young to decide on her career, and she might not eventually take this path in career, but nevertheless, as parents, we will just support her in pursuing what she wants to do.

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                  Dreamaurora
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                  Oh My Gosh:
                  What is the difference in the qualifications of \"Diploma in Music Pedagogy\" versus \"BMUS CTAABRSM\"? Which is better? 🤷 :?

                  BMus - Bachelor of Music, without Honors
                  CTABRSM - Certificate of Teaching ABRSM

                  The progression of the certs

                  BMus/Ba -> MMus/MA -> Phd/DMA
                  CTABRSM -> DipABRSM Teaching -> LRSM Teaching -> FRSM Teaching

                  A typical BMus/BA recital would be at the level of LRSM/LTCL Performance, so having that certifies the teacher as being able to perform up to the level. MMus would be equivalent to FRSM/FTCL.

                  For ABRSM Teaching Diplomas, DipABRSM Teaching certifies a teacher to teach up to grade 6, LRSM Teaching certifies up to grade 8, and FRSM Teaching up to DipABRSM Performance. This does not mean a teacher can't prepare students without the teaching certs, just that these Diplomas are a form of recognition by ABRSM regarding the teaching ability of the teacher. There are plenty of brand name teachers without Teaching Diplomas and they still produce good students just fine.

                  Diploma in Music Pedagogy is a very generic term. Could be full time cert like what NAFA is offering or private one like what ABRSM is offering.

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                    Jprincess
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                    Hi ,


                    sorry for interrupting, anybody knows of any piano teacher residing in The Gardens at Bishan or Sin Ming Walk area?

                    Thanks
                    Jen

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                      Oh My Gosh
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                      Dreamaurora:

                      BMus/Ba -> MMus/MA -> Phd/DMA
                      CTABRSM -> DipABRSM Teaching -> LRSM Teaching -> FRSM Teaching

                      A typical BMus/BA recital would be at the level of LRSM/LTCL Performance, so having that certifies the teacher as being able to perform up to the level. MMus would be equivalent to FRSM/FTCL.
                      If DD is doing the ABRSM exams, does that means I should get a teacher with LRSM over BMus, as both are the same level and the former is ABRSM-related? How about LLCM? Is that the less recognised?

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                        Dreamaurora
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                        Oh My Gosh:
                        Dreamaurora:


                        BMus/Ba -> MMus/MA -> Phd/DMA
                        CTABRSM -> DipABRSM Teaching -> LRSM Teaching -> FRSM Teaching

                        A typical BMus/BA recital would be at the level of LRSM/LTCL Performance, so having that certifies the teacher as being able to perform up to the level. MMus would be equivalent to FRSM/FTCL.

                        If DD is doing the ABRSM exams, does that means I should get a teacher with LRSM over BMus, as both are the same level and the former is ABRSM-related? How about LLCM? Is that the less recognised?

                        Can't compare a full time cert to private diploma certs lar, someone has gone through full time training will definitely be much more well-rounded than just a private diploma holder. Study piano full time must constantly give recitals and go for other classes such as harmony, history, chamber, etc. Whereas to prepare LRSM just have to prepare one recital, viva voce, and quick study, which can be prepared at student's own sweet time and no deadline.

                        LLCM is by London College of Music. It is equivalent of LRSM by LCM. I think it is debatable if LTCL and LLCM are less prestigious than LRSM, but the general consensus is it is harder to prepare and pass a Diploma by ABRSM.

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