* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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KTKS:
For the recent 2015 A level results, I observed that NYJC stellar achievements are at par or have no significant difference with those of *other JCs of similar COP*. I can conclude that the recent improvement of NYJC's COP, but not for *other JCs of similar COP*, is due to other reasons rather than its A level results.
Academics-wise, NYJC has been getting better through the years. The school has very strong Math and Science departments, not too sure about the Arts since I was from the Science stream (hybrid combi though). We also have the Chinese Language Elective Programme (many chinese subjects) and Art Elective Programme (H2/3 Art!) for those interested. That being said, there have been concerns about NYJC being a 'Chinese' school. Having CLEP in the school doesn't imply that, really! Admittedly, most of our students are Chinese for some reason, but the school culture isn't any more 'Chinese' than any other JCs. There will be your fair share of Chinese-leaning speakers and English-leaning speakers, just like any other JC.
Agree that NJYC is getting better through the years but sadly not due mainly to value-addedness as proven by the recent A level results but due to the improvement in its COP and hence the quality of its pupils. My ds likes CL so any environment is not an issue. -
Maybe I have overstated the rules here about uniform, but the main concern seems to be about hair length and colour.
As said, NYJC isn’t as strict because the school believes that the students knows what is important. When I say that the dye must not be obvious, I mean it in such a way like you can’t tell if that student’s hair is actually dyed slightly brown, just slightly washed out from years of swimming or they just have slightly lighter hair colour. If you highlight your hair like your favourite K pop idol, of course you’ll get caught. Nothing more obvious than what I said. Students who dye remain a very very small minority, and with the COP dropping I don’t see this number increasing. Hair for boys may be given a bit of leeway in length, but it still has to be neat, nothing wild is allowed. Many students still maintain a decent-by-Singapore-school standard without reminders.
Regarding the drop in COP, I agree that it’s mostly due to the school’s publicity effort rather than A level results. However with each batch having such a different group of students every year, we cant expect the J2s with a slightly higher COP to match up to the J1s when they do their As next year. The tutors have to refine and change their methods literally every year to suit an ever improving demographic, so give some time for the COP to settle down.
It was mentioned that a principal with have to oblige to have a more relaxed environment if he mingles with the students ‘too much’ as if it’s a bad thing. Trust me that when a principal mingles with a student, it heightens morale and it’s definitely a good thing. Jc is already a pressure cooker, no need to make it stay rigid. A relaxed environment will be better in the long run as students can feel more at home in school
Regarding subjects, my understanding is that many JCs still have a list like S01, S02, A04 etc to tick when it comes to choosing combination. For nyjc, it’s four empty boxes for you to fill in. Just make sure to meet the minimum one contrasting subject requirement and your 3 h2/1 H1 or 4 h2. You could literally take a combination like H2 Geography, H2 English Language and Linguistics, H2 Math and H1 General Studies in Chinese. I can’t see checked boxes offering this. Note: I may be wrong so feel free to correct me!
Alright, I know I may sound a bit pushy, but back then as a student in nyjc, I enjoyed many privileges that my friends from other JCs didn’t. Waking up later, dress down days, open school campus on weekends, night study that actually went into the night etc. They would always gawk in surprise at the amount of trust given to the students. That’s what made me believe nyjc is different and special. Note that I said privileges, because these are not rights. The school trusts that the students do not abuse the privileges and it has been shown batch after batch that students are willing to work with the school. I really hope the more conservative parents here can look past the more ‘liberal’ aspects of nyjc and consider the good the school can offer in terms of student welfare, support and flexibility. Trust me, when the exams start in jc, attire will be the least of your problems (and dyeing their hair will be the least of your dc’s concerns). -
mookata:
Maybe I have overstated the rules here about uniform, but the main concern seems to be about hair length and colour.
As said, NYJC isn't as strict because the school believes that the students knows what is important. When I say that the dye must not be obvious, I mean it in such a way like you can't tell if that student's hair is actually dyed slightly brown, just slightly washed out from years of swimming or they just have slightly lighter hair colour. If you highlight your hair like your favourite K pop idol, of course you'll get caught. Nothing more obvious than what I said. Students who dye remain a very very small minority, and with the COP dropping I don't see this number increasing. Hair for boys may be given a bit of leeway in length, but it still has to be neat, nothing wild is allowed. Many students still maintain a decent-by-Singapore-school standard without reminders.
Thank you for your clarifications, mookata. As a parent, I have to deal with kids with different personalities. I have both sensible and rebellious ones so I would prefer the jc rules to be stricter though I can't speak for every parent.
Regarding the drop in COP, I agree that it's mostly due to the school's publicity effort rather than A level results. However with each batch having such a different group of students every year, we cant expect the J2s with a slightly higher COP to match up to the J1s when they do their As next year. The tutors have to refine and change their methods literally every year to suit an ever improving demographic, so give some time for the COP to settle down.
Yes, I agree. We will probably have to wait and see if the latest batch can match their results with the COP which I am optimistic about.
It was mentioned that a principal with have to oblige to have a more relaxed environment if he mingles with the students 'too much' as if it's a bad thing. Trust me that when a principal mingles with a student, it heightens morale and it's definitely a good thing. Jc is already a pressure cooker, no need to make it stay rigid. A relaxed environment will be better in the long run as students can feel more at home in school
As said, it depends on the maturity of the kid. It's best to strike a balance which I believe most jcs are doing, e.g., relaxed on school shoes, t-shirts to replace full uniform, etc.
Regarding subjects, my understanding is that many JCs still have a list like S01, S02, A04 etc to tick when it comes to choosing combination. For nyjc, it's four empty boxes for you to fill in. Just make sure to meet the minimum one contrasting subject requirement and your 3 h2/1 H1 or 4 h2. You could literally take a combination like H2 Geography, H2 English Language and Linguistics, H2 Math and H1 General Studies in Chinese. I can't see checked boxes offering this. Note: I may be wrong so feel free to correct me!
IMHO, while it is good to have flexible subject combinations but pupils may risk losing their opportunities to apply for their preferred university courses which have fixed prerequisites for A level subjects. Most jcs have a traditional list, plus some flexible combinations subject to stringent consultations, to ensure that their pupils can be streamed smoothly into the uni courses based on their A level subjects selection or they may not be eligible for most of the courses later.
Alright, I know I may sound a bit pushy, but back then as a student in nyjc, I enjoyed many privileges that my friends from other JCs didn't. Waking up later, dress down days, open school campus on weekends, night study that actually went into the night etc. They would always gawk in surprise at the amount of trust given to the students. That's what made me believe nyjc is different and special. Note that I said privileges, because these are not rights. The school trusts that the students do not abuse the privileges and it has been shown batch after batch that students are willing to work with the school. I really hope the more conservative parents here can look past the more 'liberal' aspects of nyjc and consider the good the school can offer in terms of student welfare, support and flexibility. Trust me, when the exams start in jc, attire will be the least of your problems (and dyeing their hair will be the least of your dc's concerns).
I just hope that my ds will not take advantage of the support and flexibility given by his jc to become more rebellious and/or staying back late into the night for the wrong reason. Yes, exams and results are what I expect most from his jc and that requires lots of self-discipline on his part. -
This is NYJC thread. Its for us to share with parents/students who are intetested to know about NYJC.
My child is in year 1.
A)Before I begin, I would like to invite parents to visit NYJC ( not during Open House ), go around after 6 pm onwards.
You will see nyjc students studying. Check out their hair do if you are concerned about the hair length/ colour mentioned above.
So far, I don’t see any students flouting sch rules of sporting inappropriate hair length/colour.
Ny has dressed down days just like a few other JCs. But Civics tutors have infd us its not sloppy dressed down day. The sch will keep a look out.
Talk abt NYJC campus, its bright, breezy, many study tables/chairs for students to self study.
Talk about study in schools, I rather have my kids study in school than study in outside eateries like Starbucks… unless your child is the typed that prefer to study on his own at home, if not, you can’t keep him at home to study. When he studies outside, its his responsibility to discipline himself.
We can’t be watching them all the time.
My kid has seen the Principal walking around in evening, asking students if they had dinner or not. Don’t think students are out there asking the P for
favours ( which was mentioned above)
B)NYJC academic standard.
- the graduating class 2015 achieved great performance for ‘A’ level exam.
I was in the college during the released day of ‘A’ level results.
In summary:
1) about 31-32% achieved at least 3 H2 Distinctions AND a pass in GP ( RV has 32.6% )
2) UAP is 81 points
This batch COP was 7(Sci), 8(Art). The latest results justified this batch COP. The other JC with similar COP of 7,8 I read from another Kiasu Forum has almost similar ‘A’ level results( UAP of 80 as reported).
Other Factors also contribute to the improved in NYJC COP, I’m sure. But parents/students won’t just accept such Factors only. As a parent myself, academic standard of a college is an equally important Factor to consider too.
Of course, can’t compare with Top Tier JCs.
But the improving ‘A’ level results does quantify the improving COP over last few years.
So far:
-3 class tests conducted.
-Econ project and PW PI( last yr Topic) submitted. GP project on hand. Maybe other JCs also equally busy.
From what i can see, the Principal and his team of teachers are serious in their words…
I speak for NYJC as my child is inside, as said, this is NYJC Forum so I have the facts to state them here. Nothing wrong.
Seeing is believing, so I invite you to come down NYJC to see or made appointment to speak with the civics tutors. That’s what I did.
C)Do visit NYJC Facebook as it is featuring the class of 2015 words of advice and thankful words.
D)Subject Combination.
- lessons started later where my kid can have longer rest as now sleep after 12 mid night due to school Work load.
From my child’s timetable, lessons don’t end much earlier as mentioned by others, there are 3 days that end 4-5pm.
If you take 2 H2 Sci subjects, timetable is longer as have Lab lessons compared to Art students. This apply all JCs timetable.
Breakdown of subject hours in a week by MOE:
- H2 subjects is 4.5 hrs
- H1 subjects is 2 hrs
Before choosing JC subjects, students are given the prerequisite of Local Uni entry( all JCs do that )
So students are aware the subjects they choose and how it will determine their choices of courses in Uni. You choose your eligible/strong subjects, be happy and hopefully can excel in them. If you don’t choose the standard PCME/BCME Combi, but rather choose other Combi, then students are also aware what are the limited courses available to them in Uni. So no one is disadvantaged with the subject combination in NYJC.
What i have mentioned, to some they are nothing as many JCs are also doing that.
But im just sharing what so far my kid and I feel about NYJC. I’m not forcing any 1 to accept NYJC.
Thank you for reading. -
I understand your concerns as a parent about the discipline issue, but flexibility isn't always a bad thing. Hope I gave a clear big picture about nyjc though!
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Crester:
You have been misleading readers since you were in the other thread about A level results 2015.
2) UAP is 81 points
This batch COP was 7(Sci), 8(Art). The latest results justified this batch COP. The other JC with similar COP of 7,8 I read from another Kiasu Forum has almost similar 'A' level results( UAP of 80 as reported).
The other JC you are referring to above is either ACJC or TJC or both.
The forummer who posted the result of ACJC claimed its UAP was 81.9 which was denied by you adamantly. Since your child is in NYJC and you were not in ACJC when its result was released and the UAP wasn't published, how are you so sure it was not 81.9? Also, TJC did not reveal its UAP in its website and someone mentioned it was 'around' 80 which could be 81 or 82, you insisted it was 80.
Please be truthful when you post such figures in a public forum in future, or don't post if you are unsure, as many parents need to rely on them to help make better decisions for their kids.
By what you are doing now, you are deemed to be desperately trying to push NYJC and raise its popularity which is not a gracious act. -
mookata:
I understand your concerns as a parent about the discipline issue, but flexibility isn't always a bad thing. Hope I gave a clear big picture about nyjc though!
Yes, thank you mookata. This is the kind of picture we, with kids who are potential applicants of NYJC, are looking for. -
Crester:
Hi Crester, in the link below, you had deleted the % of pupils with at least 3H2 and a pass in GP of 31% for NYJC. Why did you do so after others had posted better results such as RVHS 32.6%, DHS 39.5% and NJC 46% and VJC approx 50%?This is NYJC thread. Its for us to share with parents/students who are intetested to know about NYJC.
My child is in year 1.
A)Before I begin, I would like to invite parents to visit NYJC ( not during Open House ), go around after 6 pm onwards.
You will see nyjc students studying. Check out their hair do if you are concerned about the hair length/ colour mentioned above.
So far, I don't see any students flouting sch rules of sporting inappropriate hair length/colour.
Ny has dressed down days just like a few other JCs. But Civics tutors have infd us its not sloppy dressed down day. The sch will keep a look out.
Talk abt NYJC campus, its bright, breezy, many study tables/chairs for students to self study.
Talk about study in schools, I rather have my kids study in school than study in outside eateries like Starbucks... unless your child is the typed that prefer to study on his own at home, if not, you can't keep him at home to study. When he studies outside, its his responsibility to discipline himself.
We can't be watching them all the time.
My kid has seen the Principal walking around in evening, asking students if they had dinner or not. Don't think students are out there asking the P for
favours ( which was mentioned above)
B)NYJC academic standard.
- the graduating class 2015 achieved great performance for 'A' level exam.
I was in the college during the released day of 'A' level results.
In summary:
1) about 31-32% achieved at least 3 H2 Distinctions AND a pass in GP ( RV has 32.6% )
2) UAP is 81 points
This batch COP was 7(Sci), 8(Art). The latest results justified this batch COP. The other JC with similar COP of 7,8 I read from another Kiasu Forum has almost similar 'A' level results( UAP of 80 as reported).
Other Factors also contribute to the improved in NYJC COP, I'm sure. But parents/students won't just accept such Factors only. As a parent myself, academic standard of a college is an equally important Factor to consider too.
Of course, can't compare with Top Tier JCs.
But the improving 'A' level results does quantify the improving COP over last few years.
So far:
-3 class tests conducted.
-Econ project and PW PI( last yr Topic) submitted. GP project on hand. Maybe other JCs also equally busy.
From what i can see, the Principal and his team of teachers are serious in their words..
I speak for NYJC as my child is inside, as said, this is NYJC Forum so I have the facts to state them here. Nothing wrong.
Seeing is believing, so I invite you to come down NYJC to see or made appointment to speak with the civics tutors. That's what I did.
C)Do visit NYJC Facebook as it is featuring the class of 2015 words of advice and thankful words.
D)Subject Combination.
- lessons started later where my kid can have longer rest as now sleep after 12 mid night due to school Work load.
From my child's timetable, lessons don't end much earlier as mentioned by others, there are 3 days that end 4-5pm.
If you take 2 H2 Sci subjects, timetable is longer as have Lab lessons compared to Art students. This apply all JCs timetable.
Breakdown of subject hours in a week by MOE:
- H2 subjects is 4.5 hrs
- H1 subjects is 2 hrs
Before choosing JC subjects, students are given the prerequisite of Local Uni entry( all JCs do that )
So students are aware the subjects they choose and how it will determine their choices of courses in Uni. You choose your eligible/strong subjects, be happy and hopefully can excel in them. If you don't choose the standard PCME/BCME Combi, but rather choose other Combi, then students are also aware what are the limited courses available to them in Uni. So no one is disadvantaged with the subject combination in NYJC.
What i have mentioned, to some they are nothing as many JCs are also doing that.
But im just sharing what so far my kid and I feel about NYJC. I'm not forcing any 1 to accept NYJC.
Thank you for reading.
Now you claimed NYJC's to be 31-32%. According to my niece who was present in the hall, this figure wasn't announced to them at all. Morever, the UAP of 81 is probably an estimate as no JC would have a perfect whole number as its UAP. If it is more than 81, it will be announced as 81.xx and hence her take is NYJC UAP is 80.xx.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum ... &start=230 -
ParkYuni:
I didnt insist TJC UAP is 80. Yes can be 81/82, who knows.
You have been misleading readers since you were in the other thread about A level results 2015.Crester:
2) UAP is 81 points
This batch COP was 7(Sci), 8(Art). The latest results justified this batch COP. The other JC with similar COP of 7,8 I read from another Kiasu Forum has almost similar 'A' level results( UAP of 80 as reported).
The other JC you are referring to above is either ACJC or TJC or both.
The forummer who posted the result of ACJC claimed its UAP was 81.9 which was denied by you adamantly. Since your child is in NYJC and you were not in ACJC when its result was released and the UAP wasn't published, how are you so sure it was not 81.9? Also, TJC did not reveal its UAP in its website and someone mentioned it was 'around' 80 which could be 81 or 82, you insisted it was 80.
Please be truthful when you post such figures in a public forum in future, or don't post if you are unsure, as many parents need to rely on them to help make better decisions for their kids.
By what you are doing now, you are deemed to be desperately trying to push NYJC and raise its popularity which is not a gracious act.
Also, I said acjc UAP is about 80 which I heard from friend kid. Yes can be 81.9.
Ok both the JCs maybe have higher UAP and it doesn't matter. Let them win.
I'm just talking abt NYJC info hete only.
When I mentioned NYJC UAP, I'm not comparing with acjc or TJC. Its just to let people know NYJC UAP is 81.
I don't wish to compare JCs here.
Please stop here. We should not be discussing such stuff. -
Crester:
I didnt insist TJC UAP is 80. Yes can be 81/82, who knows.ParkYuni:
[quote=\"Crester\"]
2) UAP is 81 points
This batch COP was 7(Sci), 8(Art). The latest results justified this batch COP. The other JC with similar COP of 7,8 I read from another Kiasu Forum has almost similar 'A' level results( UAP of 80 as reported).
You have been misleading readers since you were in the other thread about A level results 2015.
The other JC you are referring to above is either ACJC or TJC or both.
The forummer who posted the result of ACJC claimed its UAP was 81.9 which was denied by you adamantly. Since your child is in NYJC and you were not in ACJC when its result was released and the UAP wasn't published, how are you so sure it was not 81.9? Also, TJC did not reveal its UAP in its website and someone mentioned it was 'around' 80 which could be 81 or 82, you insisted it was 80.
Please be truthful when you post such figures in a public forum in future, or don't post if you are unsure, as many parents need to rely on them to help make better decisions for their kids.
By what you are doing now, you are deemed to be desperately trying to push NYJC and raise its popularity which is not a gracious act.
Also, I said acjc UAP is about 80 which I heard from friend kid. Yes can be 81.9.
Ok both the JCs maybe have higher UAP and it doesn't matter. Let them win.
I'm just talking abt NYJC info hete only.
When I mentioned NYJC UAP, I'm not comparing with acjc or TJC. Its just to let people know NYJC UAP is 81.
I don't wish to compare JCs here.
Please stop here. We should not be discussing such stuff.[/quote]You started the comparison, didn't you?
How do you explain your earlier post I highlighted in bold blue above if you denied comparing NYJC with other JCs and trying to shoot them down or intentionally overstated the achievements of NYJC with the comparison?
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