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    * Nanyang JC (NYJC)

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      candyfan
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      YLH88:


      The photo in the FB and school website is indeed ALL students that are in the HONOURS ROLL (students scoring 3As to 7As). A total of about 260 students score at least 3 distinctions in 3 H2 and a pass in GP. It is NOT the 2016 cohort photo for the school. How can a cohort of about 750 J2 students be housed on the small stage ??

      Why the students bring their bags along ? Because they gathered in the Hall and run up the stage to hand-shake with the 2 principals (ex and current) then after they will go out of the Hall to collect their result slips. Do you think the kids will remember to remove their bags, caps before dashing up the stage ? They are all jumping with joy already...

      Next question to pop up with be \"How do you know this ? What proof do you have ?\"
      Answer is : I was in the Hall when they announced the results.

      Well, you can choose not to believe this if you still doubt in NYJC performance, so be it.

      Have a nice day. šŸ˜„
      I was there too. Mentally counted about 250. YLH88, you estimated 260? Principal didn't announce the exact figure right or did I miss out something?

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        candyfan
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        mindays:
        mellory:

        260/750 is around 35%!

        Solve the percentage question!!!
        Thank you for the info!!!!

        :congrats:

        I doubt the cohort size is 750. Every intake is approximate at 700 students. After subtracting the retainees, my final estimate will probably be 670 students or so. To be prudent, a cohort size of 700 students can be used in calculation.

        http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/nanyang-junior-college-where-one-size-doesnt-fit-all

        Ex-P Mr Kwek said there are around 710 students for 2016 and also for each of the past 3 years.

        If 2015 intake was 710 and approx 30 were retained in 2014, it would have a total of 740 students in 2015.
        If 30 students were retained by end 2015, it would have 710 JC2 students in 2016. Therefore the total number of students in each JC2 cohort will still be 710 yearly as we need to add the retainees from the previous cohort. And we have not added some who may return to NYJC to repeat JC2 after obtaining their A level results.

        Thus 250+/710+ = approx 35% is correct.

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          Crester
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          candyfan:
          mindays:

          [quote=\"mellory\"]260/750 is around 35%!

          Solve the percentage question!!!
          Thank you for the info!!!!

          :congrats:

          I doubt the cohort size is 750. Every intake is approximate at 700 students. After subtracting the retainees, my final estimate will probably be 670 students or so. To be prudent, a cohort size of 700 students can be used in calculation.

          http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/nanyang-junior-college-where-one-size-doesnt-fit-all

          Ex-P Mr Kwek said there are around 710 students for 2016 and also for each of the past 3 years.

          If 2015 intake was 710 and approx 30 were retained in 2014, it would have a total of 740 students in 2015.
          If 30 students were retained by end 2015, it would have 710 JC2 students in 2016. Therefore the total number of students in each JC2 cohort will still be 710 yearly as we need to add the retainees from the previous cohort. And we have not added some who may return to NYJC to repeat JC2 after obtaining their A level results.

          Thus 250+/710+ = approx 35% is correct.[/quote]If your figures are close to the accurate numbers regard the cohort size of class 2015 and 3H2 Distinctions %, I would think it's fine BUT your given figures and % are wrong and far from it.
          Here, I have to disappoint you that your prediction about Nyjc class of 2015 to be 710 ( cohort which took 2016 A Level exam) is Wrong.
          And your approx 35% is definitely Wrong again.

          I had said in March this year, Nyjc 2016 A level results for minimum 3H2 Distinctions with pass in GP is definitely higher than 35% this year.
          I promised I'm not lying. Don't belief me, then don't.

          Why I'm so sure?
          Well I have this year NYJC Annual Book. It featured class photos of all 2015 J2 students.
          The total cohort is not 710 students But 671 ( Mindays already showed us in the Nyjc FB the many papers good luck stars made for J2 last year ).
          Why still want to stir inaccurate facts.
          And how you know approx 30 retained in 2014?

          The Nyjc Annual Book also listed the Names of Each TOP Honour students of class 2014 ( took A Level in 2015, with minimum 3H2 Distinctions & pass in GP ) which I had said in my last year post that NYJC had about 31% with 3 Distinctions n pass in GP.

          I know it will be good if Nyjc post its results, then all speculation will end. As MOE is emphasizing the holistic development of students and no longer focusing on grades, Nyjc does not show such results officially. But that doesn't warrant Nyjc to be subjected to inaccurate remarks.
          Other JCs may show results ( not all JCs ) so be it.

          There are stirrers who post unfavourable and unfair comments about Nyjc results based on inaccurate facts, that's why I have to keep emphasizing it's results.

          So try harder, stirrers.

          See Annual Book cover as proof.
          https://s3.postimg.org/yxbxn2l4j/IMG_0003.jpg\">

          FYI, Xinmin Sec School posted news of its graduands from NYJC who achieved 3-7 Distinctions at 2016 'A' level exam.
          Total 24 students.

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            mindays
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            duplicate

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              mindays
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              Crester, is this the post you are referring to? http://xinminsec.moe.edu.sg/xss/highlights/former-students-of-xinmin-secondary-done-well-in-2016-a-level-examinations

              This looks like a solid piece of evidence that a non-IP school can also produce students with excellent results, especially if it value-adds. Congrats to these graduants :congrats:

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                mindays
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                candyfan:
                mindays:

                [quote=\"mellory\"]260/750 is around 35%!

                Solve the percentage question!!!
                Thank you for the info!!!!

                :congrats:

                I doubt the cohort size is 750. Every intake is approximate at 700 students. After subtracting the retainees, my final estimate will probably be 670 students or so. To be prudent, a cohort size of 700 students can be used in calculation.

                http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/nanyang-junior-college-where-one-size-doesnt-fit-all

                Ex-P Mr Kwek said there are around 710 students for 2016 and also for each of the past 3 years.

                If 2015 intake was 710 and approx 30 were retained in 2014, it would have a total of 740 students in 2015.
                If 30 students were retained by end 2015, it would have 710 JC2 students in 2016. Therefore the total number of students in each JC2 cohort will still be 710 yearly as we need to add the retainees from the previous cohort. And we have not added some who may return to NYJC to repeat JC2 after obtaining their A level results.

                Thus 250+/710+ = approx 35% is correct.[/quote]So should we take your interpretation (710 students) or my facts, from the OFFICIAL NYJC Page https://www.instagram.com/p/BKVj5GyA2qZ/?taken-by=nyjcians (670 students) to be true? Highly doubt your credibility :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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                  candyfan
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                  Crester:
                  candyfan:

                  [quote=\"mindays\"]

                  I doubt the cohort size is 750. Every intake is approximate at 700 students. After subtracting the retainees, my final estimate will probably be 670 students or so. To be prudent, a cohort size of 700 students can be used in calculation.

                  http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/nanyang-junior-college-where-one-size-doesnt-fit-all

                  Ex-P Mr Kwek said there are around 710 students for 2016 and also for each of the past 3 years.

                  If 2015 intake was 710 and approx 30 were retained in 2014, it would have a total of 740 students in 2015.
                  If 30 students were retained by end 2015, it would have 710 JC2 students in 2016. Therefore the total number of students in each JC2 cohort will still be 710 yearly as we need to add the retainees from the previous cohort. And we have not added some who may return to NYJC to repeat JC2 after obtaining their A level results.

                  Thus 250+/710+ = approx 35% is correct.

                  If your figures are close to the accurate numbers regard the cohort size of class 2015 and 3H2 Distinctions %, I would think it's fine BUT your given figures and % are wrong and far from it.
                  Here, I have to disappoint you that your prediction about Nyjc class of 2015 to be 710 ( cohort which took 2016 A Level exam) is Wrong.
                  And your approx 35% is definitely Wrong again.

                  I had said in March this year, Nyjc 2016 A level results for minimum 3H2 Distinctions with pass in GP is definitely higher than 35% this year.
                  I promised I'm not lying. Don't belief me, then don't.

                  Why I'm so sure?
                  Well I have this year NYJC Annual Book. It featured class photos of all 2015 J2 students.
                  The total cohort is not 710 students But 671 ( Mindays already showed us in the Nyjc FB the many papers good luck stars made for J2 last year ).
                  Why still want to stir inaccurate facts.
                  And how you know approx 30 retained in 2014?

                  The Nyjc Annual Book also listed the Names of Each TOP Honour students of class 2014 ( took A Level in 2015, with minimum 3H2 Distinctions & pass in GP ) which I had said in my last year post that NYJC had about 31% with 3 Distinctions n pass in GP.

                  I know it will be good if Nyjc post its results, then all speculation will end. As MOE is emphasizing the holistic development of students and no longer focusing on grades, Nyjc does not show such results officially. But that doesn't warrant Nyjc to be subjected to inaccurate remarks.
                  Other JCs may show results ( not all JCs ) so be it.

                  There are stirrers who post unfavourable and unfair comments about Nyjc results based on inaccurate facts, that's why I have to keep emphasizing it's results.

                  So try harder, stirrers.

                  See Annual Book cover as proof.
                  https://s3.postimg.org/yxbxn2l4j/IMG_0003.jpg\">

                  FYI, Xinmin Sec School posted news of its graduands from NYJC who achieved 3-7 Distinctions at 2016 'A' level exam.
                  Total 24 students.[/quote]Sure, Crester, I 'belief' what you said is true regarding the fact that was highlighted in bold red.
                  From the video you shared earlier, NYJC principal said that there was a 14% improvement on the number of 3H2 distinctions with GP pass. Since you confirmed that the previous percentage was 31%, therefore the current % is (31% x 1.14) = 35%.

                  Why do you still want to contradict yourself and deceive us that the % is definitely higher than 35%?? Try harder! šŸ˜‰

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                    candyfan
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                    mindays:
                    Crester, is this the post you are referring to? http://xinminsec.moe.edu.sg/xss/highlights/former-students-of-xinmin-secondary-done-well-in-2016-a-level-examinations

                    This looks like a solid piece of evidence that a non-IP school can also produce students with excellent results, especially if it value-adds. Congrats to these graduants :congrats:
                    Well done to the ex-XMSS students for their diligence and perseverance!

                    I am sure mindays has misinterpreted what the forummers had said about the difference between IP and non-IP JCs.
                    From my understanding, what they meant was IP-JCs are able to produce MORE students with excellent results and not that non-IP JCs can't produce any. :slapshead:

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                      KTKS
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                      mindays:

                      I have my reasons for bringing in NJC this year, okay, allow me to explain, no offense intended.

                      I took note of NJ's results as follows:
                      H2 Subjects with at least 50% Distinctions
                      • Art
                      • Chinese Language & Literature
                      • Economics
                      • French
                      • German
                      • History
                      • Knowledge & Inquiry
                      • Mathematics
                      • Physics
                      • Tamil Language & Literature

                      Note that these H2 subjects are mostly taken by the minorities of NJ: Art, Chinese Language & Literature, French, German, Knowledge & Inquiry, Tamil Language & Literature. 6 out of 10 of the subjects that were posted on its website are subjects that are taken by the minority of the students (assuming the popular science courses in NJC is just as regular as the other JCs: PCME and BCME) Note that common humanities like Geography and Literature are not above the 50% rate.

                      NJC had 46% of its students scoring at least 3H2 distinctions LAST YEAR (2015 A level results).NJC has also been relatively silent about its A level results for 2016 as compared to 2015. This may mean that the 2016's results may not be as good as 2015's. This means that there may be fewer than 46% of its students achieving 3H2 distinctions. In contrast to NYJC, taking that the cohort size is 700 and 260 of them got 3H2 distinctions, the percentage (rounded down to be more prudent) is 37%. That's why I said that NYJC is probably comparable to NJC.

                      Given that NJC is well known for its science related programmes and its excellence in that, I would have expected its results for H2 Chemistry and H2 Biology to be one of the subjects that exceeds 50% distinction rates. As a top 5 JC (or supposedly so), it is a given that H2 Math and H2 Sciences subjects (majority take PCME too) should surpass the 50% barrier. In this case, H2 Math did and H2 Physics too. This brings me to the point that NJC may not have done as well as the other IPJCs like VJ or DHS, not to even compare with RI or HCI.

                      Out of all the IP JCs (there are 7 which take the A levels (2016 batch)), I took the last 3 of the tier (TJC, RVHS and NJC) and said that it is probably comparable to a top non-IP JC (in this case NYJC, but to be more correct, ACJC as its 6/7 for that year) based on COP. Rationale: logically speaking, these non-IPJCs should comprise of top o level students that didn't go IPJCs, hence COP is used.

                      I have no ill intentions to downgrade any JCs but rather to show that non-IP JCs can be as capable as IPJCs.
                      NJC has achieved so many subjects with at least 50% distinctions (including 3 subjects from the most popular PCME) and here you are trying very hard to downplay its performance and squeeze in NYJC, while dragging ACJC along, to equate itself with NJC's performance!!
                      Sadly, the closest that NYJC can get is to be at par with NJC COP this year due to its popularity. :razz:
                      There's no evidence to prove that NYJC is probably comparable to TJC and RVHS too.

                      Of course you can exaggerate all that you want as you know NYJC principal will never reveal any statistics to give your past false declarations away. :evil:

                      Your declared that NYJC had obtained above 60% distinctions in H2 Math and Chemistry. Show us the evidence. Are these the only 2? How about the rest of the subjects? NJC has gotten 10 subjects above 50% distinctions, mind you.

                      P/S: How to leave the 2 circus friends here alone to direct and indulge in their own drama. :slapshead:

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                        KTKS
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                        mindays:
                        Crester, is this the post you are referring to? http://xinminsec.moe.edu.sg/xss/highlights/former-students-of-xinmin-secondary-done-well-in-2016-a-level-examinations

                        This looks like a solid piece of evidence that a non-IP school can also produce students with excellent results, especially if it value-adds. Congrats to these graduants :congrats:
                        Congrats to XSS former students who had done well in their A levels.

                        Although the distinctions listed are a combination of both H1 and H2 subjects, all the pupils should be lauded for their tremendous effort put in. XSS is certainly proud to have instilled the value of conscientiousness in continual learning among its pupils.

                        It seems like the bulk of the top pupils of XSS had chosen NYJC, maybe due to proximity. XSS has a small pool of PRC and Asean scholars and I can relate some names from the list.

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