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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • floppyF Offline
      floppy
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      Sieg:
      \"As to why new JCs such as Eunoia were still being opened if enrolment was dwindling, MOE said that Eunoia JC was opened not to increase capacity but to give students more options, and for a more varied educational landscape\".


      This is vague. Can someone please elaborate on the \"give more options and varied educational landscape\".
      Because someone, somewhere screws up.
      If you cannot convince them, confuse them - and the best way of confusing people is to lump together a few comprehensible, but totally meaning phrases.

      Correction: should read \"meaningless\".

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        mindays
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        This merger of schools will definitely lead to massive uproar. Read through some of the forums that MJC students were quite upset that they have to merge with TPJC, especially when these 2 JCs see each other as "competitors" within the region. I can feel the disappointment in those alumni associations of these affected JCs.

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        • zbearZ Offline
          zbear
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          My interpretation of MOE’s move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


          Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.

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            Sieg
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            floppy:
            Sieg:

            \"As to why new JCs such as Eunoia were still being opened if enrolment was dwindling, MOE said that Eunoia JC was opened not to increase capacity but to give students more options, and for a more varied educational landscape\".


            This is vague. Can someone please elaborate on the \"give more options and varied educational landscape\".

            Because someone, somewhere screws up.
            If you cannot convince them, confuse them - and the best way of confusing people is to lump together a few comprehensible, but totally meaning phrases.

            😂 this is one good interpretation.

            My initial thought was EJC, being an IP-JC housing legit brighter students, is one that our 'garmen' would love to promote while those poorer-performing jcs are to be eliminated. In short, it is promoting elitism that will result in further kiasuism among anxious parents here. Not afraid birth rate will be afffected? Things will work well here only if one is blessed with academically smart kid(s).

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              MotherHen
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              zbear:
              My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


              Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.
              That's how I feel too. And does it now mean that it is going to be tougher to score in the A levels with a shift in bell curve, since the students are competing in a tighter race.

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              • sharonkhooS Offline
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                As long as the total no. of JC places remains at the same proportion of the cohort size, does it really make much difference? I can see MOE’s rationale (being ex-public sector) that economies of scale make larger JCs better in some ways - more subject comb choices, more CCA choices, larger and more varied facilities etc. It’s sad for those which are closing, but at least no teachers will lose their jobs, and those who want to take A levels will have the same opportunities as before. The cut-off points are determined by the applicants, not the JC. So if each existing JC expands the no. of students it can take in, and there is no further "improvement" in A level grades scored by each cohort, the COPs will fall.

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                  Sieg
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                  zbear:
                  My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


                  Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.
                  Are all O level 11-20 pointers not good enough for JC?
                  DS' home tutor was from TPJC and a graduand of NUS biomedical course. She is currently doing her PhD in UK. Morever for one to choose the poly route, the pupil has to know his future career path. Not everyone is ready at the age of 16.

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                  • floppyF Offline
                    floppy
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                    zbear:
                    My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


                    Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.
                    Yes, could well be the case.

                    However, it's not really a case of low tier JCs being absorbed into mid tier JCs given that the only mid tier JC is AJC (in the headline). The rest are the 7 JCs with the worst off COP.

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                      Sieg
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                      slmkhoo:
                      As long as the total no. of JC places remains at the same proportion of the cohort size, does it really make much difference? I can see MOE's rationale (being ex-public sector) that economies of scale make larger JCs better in some ways - more subject comb choices, more CCA choices, larger and more varied facilities etc. It's sad for those which are closing, but at least no teachers will lose their jobs, and those who want to take A levels will have the same opportunities as before. The cut-off points are determined by the applicants, not the JC. So if each existing JC expands the no. of students it can take in, and there is no further \"improvement\" in A level grades scored by each cohort, the COPs will fall.
                      Today's paper states that some JC teachers will be transferred to secondary schools. Some teachers were upset that they were kept in the dark for so long.
                      Yeah, let's see if the COP for JC eligibilty will still be capped at 20 raw in the years to come.

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                      • zbearZ Offline
                        zbear
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                        Sieg:
                        zbear:

                        My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


                        Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.

                        Are all O level 10-20 pointers not good enough for JC?
                        DS' home tutor was from TPJC and a graduand of NUS biomedical course. She is currently doing her PhD in UK. Morever for one to choose the poly route, the pupil has to know his future career path. Not everyone is ready at the age of 16.



                        It's not a matter of not good enough. JC is more competitive now and the gap between the no of students scoring 7As/8As (A levels) is widening from top to low JCs. Only a minority of students who study in the mid/low tier will do well. So MOE doesn't want to waste resources and not to waste time of students to struggle and compete with the higher ability students.

                        Regardless of whether JC or Poly, many are unsure of their career paths at 16 yrs old but tapping on yr strengths will more or less tell you which route to go for.

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